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Re: Answer to the enitre worlds problems and trends: People simply hate people?

Posted by SilverFox on Tue Mar 29 01:14:02 2005, in response to Re: Answer to the enitre worlds problems and trends: People simply hate people?, posted by American Pig on Tue Mar 29 00:16:28 2005.

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The urban vs. rural link can be constructed (quite spuriously, I admit) by realizing that, somehow, cities were far more livable during times that corporal punishment existed in those cities.

If another form of discipline was as effective as corporal punishment with regard to fostering respect, humility, achievement, and maturity amongst schoolchildren, or even the public at-large, then how come it apparently has not been found or utilized?

My argument against the framer of this thread in my initial post hinges on some very salient comparisons and contrasts in the degree of structure and decorum during those "oppressive" pre-civil rights law times. While those times were by no means perfect, we seem to have corrected the admitted problems, but in a way that produced many gross side effects that are tearing away at the very fabric we are trying to perfect and protect. To wit:

- Crime was rampant from the Sixties through the early Nineties until it dropped precipitiously against the wishes of the criminal coddlers. Imagine that there is a whole subculture of non-criminals (and maybe even criminals themselves) bitching and moaning that crime is going down -- because it is not going down the way they prescribe. They are more concerned with theory than actuality.

- Anecdotally, immigrants no longer seem to want to immigrate from Point X to America to become Americans. They want to be Point Xers with freedoms not found at Point X. Unfortunately Point Xers support human slavery, female genital mutilation, poor sanitation, refuses to learn English, eats dogs and cats, and other ills not tolerated in this country, yet there are those who support immigrants' "rights" not to assimilate into our culture.

- In order to pay welfare mothers, there are fewer buildings inspectors (rooting out illegal apartment conversions), immigration officers, customs officials, ambulances, subway cars, and other assorted resources that actually have a value to civilized society. What degeneration of discipline caused this?

- The framer of this thread even brought up "Depression." I am sure he meant economic depression, but I also mean mental depression: From having to pay a host of taxes without a corresponding benefit to the dollars I pay. I see huge parts of my tax bite going to pay to clean up vandalism, pay debt on notes floated to pay welfare cheats (of which there are many), buy six hundred dollar toilet seats, feed inmates on Death Row for decades, develop unwanted and unneeded football stadia, and other specious expenditures. What undisciplined slobs allowed these circumstances to transpire and flourish?

Hell yeah, Americans -- of all stripes -- are spitting mad, and don't "like people." They've been let down, deceived, and manipulated to the point that they just don't care, and want to shield themselves from an increasingly smarmy and "different" culture they never asked for, but is being forced upon them. You may disagree with their methods, but their reasoning is difficult to rebut.

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