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Re: Metropolitan Ave |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Sat Aug 6 17:47:23 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 14:24:05 2005. Cut the weeds in the back and you will see Christ the King HS. |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M] |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 6 17:50:05 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by Systemwide on Fri Aug 5 19:12:24 2005. Typical R10 with a dark car but not nearly as often as on the R42's of that era. |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M] |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 6 17:55:08 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Aug 6 08:05:42 2005. And I operated that garbage over there in the fall of 1986. Every trip was an adventure. I went out of service so often it was ridiculous, most of the time for doors failing to open, particularly in the last car. |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R16's in Jamaica yard] |
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Posted by vengence on Sat Aug 6 17:59:04 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 6 16:45:54 2005. Well you can say that..they were NEVER much good right out the gate..but when they were pressed into EE/GG service[sometimes running on the RR as well]they went downhill very quickly..never keeping time on the line..The TA knew this,but kept them around because of the R44 problem. Not only that...but the R4/9 cars were failing very quickly...so they had to run SOMETHING... |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M] |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 6 18:00:44 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 6 17:55:08 2005. Heh, I rode them often on the L in the fall of 1986. Since they weren't exactly regulars on the L at that time, I'd say it was a fair bet I rode on some of your runs. Those beasts were even worse on the yellow B. Climbing onto the Manhattan Bridge took a lot of effort. You could hear the motors groaning. |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M] |
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Posted by vengence on Sat Aug 6 18:02:51 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Aug 6 08:05:42 2005. You hated them...?So did I... The J was FLOODED with them during the early 80's...along with the L. Everytime I saw one..it made me ill. Talk about HAPPY when they were gone! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 CHris on Sat Aug 6 18:04:40 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by R PansePCC on Sat Aug 6 17:47:23 2005. Yup. And notice there's no fence there either. There was no fence between the Conrail tracks and the subway tracks. The only thing stopping kids from the school from cutting through to the Metro station was a small chainlink fence with hundreds of holes in it between the Christ the King property and the COnrail tracks. |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave |
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Posted by GP38/R42 CHris on Sat Aug 6 18:08:23 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Brother Pielet on Sat Aug 6 15:19:43 2005. Yeah, the doors looked like the melted!! |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R-10's & R-16's on the 15] |
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Posted by Karl B on Sat Aug 6 18:31:14 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by vengence on Sat Aug 6 00:31:19 2005. The IND sent 30 R-10's (3320-49) to ENY in the fall of 1954 to familiarize crews with them in anticipation of the arrival of the R-16's. The first train of R-10's went into service on the Jamaica Line (15) on Nov 1, 1954. I have a snapshot of a train of R-10's with 3342 being the lead unit, making the turn after Crescent St on its way to 168th St.Until that time service on the Jamaica line was held down by the Standards for many, many years. The Standards had no end route signs so regular riders never knew that the Jamaica line was the 15 until they saw it on the R-10 end signs in November 1954. The first train of the new R-16's made its debut on the 15 the first week of January in 1955. All 200 R-16's were delivered to the BMT in numerical order with the 6400's arriving first, then the 6300's. Fifty R-16's from the 6300 series were sent to the IND in 1956 in anticipation of the opening of the Rockaway line. |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R16's in Jamaica yard] |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Aug 6 20:18:11 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R16's in Jamaica yard], posted by vengence on Sat Aug 6 17:59:04 2005. Not only that...but the R4/9 cars were failing very quickly...so they had to run SOMETHING...What was wrong with the R4/9 cars in the mid 1970's? |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R16's in Jamaica yard] |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 6 20:19:21 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R16's in Jamaica yard], posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Aug 6 20:18:11 2005. They were 40 years old. No SMS. |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M] |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Aug 6 20:22:18 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Aug 5 23:11:57 2005. It must have been during the Rockwell Truck fiasco. |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M] |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 6 20:25:22 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Aug 6 20:22:18 2005. Yup. The R10's even showed up on the JFK Express at that time. |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R-10's & R-16's on the 15] |
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Posted by Eric B on Sat Aug 6 22:00:34 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R-10's & R-16's on the 15], posted by Karl B on Sat Aug 6 18:31:14 2005. The east had the R-11's. Shouldn't those have been enough to familiarize the crews? |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave |
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Posted by monorail on Sun Aug 7 00:35:52 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 6 12:49:45 2005. perhaps' Chris R16/R2730' should have read the post by' RIPTA42HopeTunnel ',before coming up with 'DUH"! |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M] |
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Posted by monorail on Sun Aug 7 00:39:10 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Aug 6 14:36:11 2005. during the '80s or late '70ssupposedly a guy could do just that with a polaroid camera he claimed that with the power of his mind, he could move his thoughts into the camera and create pictures |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M] |
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Posted by monorail on Sun Aug 7 00:46:38 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 6 17:55:08 2005. I operated them about as often as Bill didbut only went out of service once they were great fun to operate especially as c/r the door controls had 3 positions moving the handle between locked and unlocked would get people bothered they'd think there was a problem with the doors |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M] |
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Posted by monorail on Sun Aug 7 00:48:16 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 6 12:41:05 2005. 'and not a single person ever called the line by it's number'only the married persons I guess |
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Metropolitan/Myrtle el |
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Posted by rushhoursardine on Sun Aug 7 01:23:59 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R16's in Jamaica yard], posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 6 20:19:21 2005. It's good for the old Sardine to be back on this chat board after the Pirmann fiasco on nycsubway.org, and even better to see that some of my old chat buddies are using their old handles.I want to start a new thread. Who remembers and rode on the old Myrtle el (MJ line) before 1969? Several of the posters in this thread are dead on: no one ever called the two lines on Myrtle by their old BMT numbers. The Manhattan train was the metal train, the Jay Street train was the wooden train. No one in Ridgewood, Middle Village or Glendale ever needed signs for this one. |
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Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 7 02:06:59 2005, in response to Metropolitan/Myrtle el, posted by rushhoursardine on Sun Aug 7 01:23:59 2005. Rode it all the way to Bridge/Jay often, especially on Saturdays. Also know Ed Davis who ran the last MJ in revenue ... those old Q cars were all tuckered out in their last days, but that was still a wonderful, bucolic ride ... |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M] |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 7 06:10:30 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by monorail on Sun Aug 7 00:46:38 2005. Yeah, I operated them as a c/r and I really enjoyed them since they were a unique car to operate from the c/r standpoint. I operated them on the LL. For awhile they were all out of service but once the R46 had the truck problems, the R16's were resurrected. Initially they ran 5 trains of them on the LL during rush hours only. |
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Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 7 06:12:14 2005, in response to Metropolitan/Myrtle el, posted by rushhoursardine on Sun Aug 7 01:23:59 2005. Pirman fiasco? Are you implying he had no right to shut down his messageboard? |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M] |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 7 06:20:19 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 7 06:10:30 2005. Dunno if TA still has any, but 6398 is alive and well (with slanty panels for the door motors and all) in Kingston ... should you be feeling "nostalgic" for some insane reason. Worked those when I got shunted off the D for a QB run every now and then ... |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R16's in Jamaica yard] |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 7 08:43:33 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R16's in Jamaica yard], posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Aug 6 20:18:11 2005. They weren't being cared for anymore. The new-cars-are-coming-so-why-bother-with-the-old-ones attitude had set in. |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 7 08:49:35 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Brother Pielet on Sat Aug 6 15:19:43 2005. Char-broiled subway cars - not a pleasant sight. |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M] |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 7 08:53:41 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 7 06:20:19 2005. I have seen photos of that one in Kingston.The Transit Museum has one also, and it is cosmetically restored (although looks nothing like they did in service!). I don't think it runs though (although that does sound like an R16 now doesn't it): 
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M] |
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Posted by Eric B on Sun Aug 7 10:04:17 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 6 12:41:05 2005. The character route identifiers were strictly an IND thing. On the BMT and IRT they were for towers. And even then, when you look at 1930's IND maps, and it says "signal A, CC, CC, E", that looks like those were really for the towers also. Since the IND was the only one that consistently used them on all trains, and from the very beginning of the system, the prople became familiar with them, and used them to identify the route, where the other systems, everyone ewas well familiar with the names only.Even when the letters began to be phased in on the BMT south in 1960, they did not catch on, and it was not until they were really foisted on the public with the Chrystie opening that they then became the official route designators. |
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Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Aug 7 10:05:34 2005, in response to Metropolitan/Myrtle el, posted by rushhoursardine on Sun Aug 7 01:23:59 2005.  Who remembers and rode on the old Myrtle el (MJ line) before 1969? By 1969 LION was flying Stickee Buns off of an aircraft carrier in Vietnam. But LION remembers Myrtle Avenue Lion well. Found those old Q-cars, obviously the oldest cars left running in the city. The first R-38s were rolling as the last Qs faded away. Too bad they never built the R-39s. Would be awesome to have those Lions (Myrt and Third) running again today. 
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Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 7 10:12:37 2005, in response to Metropolitan/Myrtle el, posted by rushhoursardine on Sun Aug 7 01:23:59 2005. I rode that line as a child when visiting family in Ridgewood.Second, there was no "Pirmann fiasco"; I suggest that as a gentleman, you publicly retract that statement. your pal, Fred |
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Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Sun Aug 7 10:55:56 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Aug 7 10:05:34 2005. I rode those Q's to high school from Fresh Pond Rd to Bridge Jay St from 1959 to 1963, one time coming home from h.s., one of the boys ( an all boys h.s. ) had several bottles of apple blossem, and he broke them in the 3rd car, well that smell was like the worlds biggest fart,so this four car train headed back to Metropolitan Ave, there were only two people in that car when the train pulled into Fresh Pond Rd, a sleeping drunk, and an old woman who probably couldn't smell anything anyway maby was wondering why the whole train was full of passengers and her car was empty, people would dash into the car when the doors opened then dashed right back out again to another car allready being full,we were in the 4th car and was watching this whole scene unfold,I also took the Q's to work changing at Myrtle & B'way to head to Manhattan...yes I loved the Q's the only trains in the whole U.S. that had link and pin couplers. Karl |
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Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 7 11:55:28 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Sun Aug 7 10:55:56 2005. Reminds me of about two or three years ago on the M shuttle one Sunday morning. I was waiting for an M at Forest Ave, and the train pulled in, and the while most of the four car train was full, the second car (which was the doorway where I was getting on) was completely empty except for some homeless guy sleeping on one of the benches. I walked in, and soon realized why the car was empty. Man did it smell in there. I ran gagging to the storm door to walk into the first car, and you could see the smirks on the other people's faces in that car, knowing why I came running in. It was humerous all the way to Myrtle-Bway, as at each station you would see a bunch of people gasping for air running into the first (or I ssume the third car too). Once at Myrtle, we all got off for the J, and he homeless guy and his smelly car was back to Metro again...He must have been circling back and forth on the shuttle all night between Myrtle and Metro the way that car smelt! |
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Kingston R16: Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M] |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 7 12:01:24 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 7 08:53:41 2005. Here's a photo of the Kingston R16 and link to more: http://www.tmny.org/tmny6398.html |
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Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el |
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Posted by trains61 on Sun Aug 7 12:03:22 2005, in response to Metropolitan/Myrtle el, posted by rushhoursardine on Sun Aug 7 01:23:59 2005. I rode the Q cars several times in the 60`s and could see the old El outside my kitchen window. During snow storms you could see the Q cars arcing and sparking. Plus Grandmas apartment was right next to the tracks at Sumner Ave. It always kept this very young man captivated and entertained. It was a sad day when they discontinued service and tore the EL down. |
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R39's and Myrtle El Speculations Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 7 12:11:20 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Aug 7 10:05:34 2005. Too bad they never built the R-39s. Would be awesome to have those Lions (Myrt and Third) running again today.Yes, it is quite a shame. I would have been a daily user of those R39's on the Myrt back in the late 90's and early 90's. I presume they would have looked like miniture IRT-like R38's. The stations on the Myrtle would have been redone by now, and would probably look something like the J's stations between Alabama and Crescent. Wouldn't that have been cool....Miniture R38's (GOHed by now) running on an el that looks something like the Fulton St portion of the J. I wonder what letter it would have gotten, as the route was the MJ, and the M and J would be used for their current lines. I also think that by now, what is currently the "M line" to Manhattan would have been downgraded to a rush hour only service like it used to be, and the Myrtle El route would be the 24-7 route. I wonder how they would have handled the gap at stations like Central, Knickerbocker, Wyckoff, Seneca, Forest, etc where both skinny and regular sized trains would be running. In today's lawsuit-driven climate, I don't know if they could have done it like they used to when the wooden cars ran with the steal cars at those stations. Perhaps the Myrtle El would have been downgraded to a Jay street to Broadway Shuttle, with a transfer downstairs to continue north, or go to Manhattan. |
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Re: R39's and Myrtle El Speculations Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 7 13:58:14 2005, in response to R39's and Myrtle El Speculations Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 7 12:11:20 2005. If the MTA wanted to keep the Myrtle, converting the stations to B division specs (shaving each platform edge 6 inches) would have been easy. The 3rd Ave. el could have kept using IRT equipment had they invested the money into fixing it up and shoring up the oldest sections. |
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Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el |
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Posted by rushhoursardine on Sun Aug 7 14:10:26 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el, posted by Fred G on Sun Aug 7 10:12:37 2005. Bill from Maspeth and Fred G: I'm enjoying these comments about what was my favorite el line as a child. I used to ride the MJ all the time with my late father. We had family that lived down near the Brooklyn Navy Yard, so when we visited for Sunday dinner, we would ride those old Qs from Metropolitan Avenue down to Navy Street and walk to their apartment.As for what I have termed the Pirmann fiasco--unfortunately David and I exchanged some harsh words when he shut down the message board at nycsubway.org. He seemed to over-react to the presence of two or three lunkheads who wrote inflammatory, racial or political stuff, thereby ruining the chat board for hundreds of other railfans. I do respect the great photographic contributions David makes to the nycsubway.org, and still visit the site for railfan information like the March of Dimes trips. What David didn't do was simple--ban the nutcases from his site, permanently. And that, my fellow railfans, he should have done. |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave |
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Posted by rushhoursardine on Sun Aug 7 14:15:54 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 28 14:49:33 2005. DaDouce: don't remind me of the agony of being dragged at age six or seven to Robert Hall on Queens Boulevard and 43rd Street, by my mom, to buy school clothes every August. I much preferred to be in that area to watch wrestling and boxing with my grandfather at the old Sunnyside Gardens (now a Wendy's). Gramps always sprung for White Castle cheeseburgers down the block, as well. |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave |
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Posted by rushhoursardine on Sun Aug 7 14:27:24 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jul 28 19:52:16 2005. Great photos, but they remind me too much of the graffiti days. I like looking at trains, not pop art. |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave |
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Posted by rushhoursardine on Sun Aug 7 15:01:42 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 1 10:54:57 2005. In the very early 1900s, when Ridgewood was packed with recent German immigrants, they had many restaurants and brau halls in the Middle Village area/Ridgewood/Glendale area. The Myrtle el was the connection for many people to get to jobs in Manhattan.The brau halls functioned as social clubs and immigrant networks as well. Free lunch on the bar (usually hard-boiled eggs or German sausage) and nickel beers were readily available, at least until Prohibition came in during the 1920s. For those who were still learning English, or wanted news of the old country, German and Austrian newspapers were usually available. Many of these old restaurants (Niederstein's on Metropolitan and 69th, Gebhardt's on Myrtle Avenue in Glendale, or the old sauerbraten hall which is now P. J. Quinn's Pub next to the subway at Metro) have folded with the times. The last survivor seems to be Zum Staamtische at 70th Street and Myrtle Avenue, which continues to be the best German restaurant in the neighborhood. So, if you want to take the L or M to Myrtle-Wyckoff and transfer to the B55 bus up Myrtle, you can still enjoy the Weiss bier, the Ockoberfest dark in a giant mug, and the signature dish of the restaurant: the best jaegerschitzel in the city, with about a half-pound of mushrooms and a lake of gravy on top. |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 7 15:12:48 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by rushhoursardine on Sun Aug 7 15:01:42 2005. There's a HUGE fight over the future of the building which used to be Niedersteins. The owners want to demolish it and rent the space to a fast food chain. Preservationists want to have it declared a landmark. BTW, anyone remember the name of the German resturaunt on Jamaica Ave, near Lefferts? |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M] |
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Posted by Broadway Junction on Sun Aug 7 15:37:56 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 6 20:25:22 2005. wtf...did any of them actually have the right signage for it? |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave |
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Posted by egis semaly on Sun Aug 7 15:43:43 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 7 15:12:48 2005. Triangle Hofbrau, IIRC. |
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Re: R39's and Myrtle El Speculations Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el |
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Posted by Broadway Junction on Sun Aug 7 15:51:46 2005, in response to R39's and Myrtle El Speculations Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 7 12:11:20 2005. Here's my rendition of an R39...notice the IRT signage and 3 doors per car.It's at the wrong Jay St though, it should be upstairs. LOL. 
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M] |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Sun Aug 7 16:14:54 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by Broadway Junction on Sun Aug 7 15:37:56 2005. When some of the R-10's went over in 1980-81 to the BMT Eastern Division, they only had IND routes and terminals on all of their roll signs still. I do recall one complete Manhattan-bound "LL" trip that I was in on February 17, 1981, that for some strange reason, the front lead motor car #3161 had its bulkhead roll signs at "E/8th Ave." and "Jamaica-169th St." (some older plus odd curtain readings could found).-William A. Padron ["Rockaway Park"] |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M] |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 7 16:48:40 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by Broadway Junction on Sun Aug 7 15:37:56 2005. Back then the signs were almost always wrong. When you got on, you just "hoped" it was the right train (Don't forget, even many of the PA's didn't work, so it's not like the conductor could always say "This is an F train, when the signs said it was an E".The old days really hardened people off, as today, most of the time, within reason, the signs are accurate. |
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Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Aug 7 16:50:33 2005, in response to Metropolitan/Myrtle el, posted by rushhoursardine on Sun Aug 7 01:23:59 2005. I remember riding "Old Myrt" in the old budding days of early railfandom. I liked sitting in the cross seat, elbow on the window sill with the lower window opened in the summer. The ride was slow and quaint, but what was the rush anyway ?I rode the last revenue train out of Bridge-Jay Sts. in 1969. Don Harold recently cleared up one thing I stated and that was when heading north, a southbound train passed us. I thought that was the last train, but that was a train sent to pick up the last of the cash and tokens and line was closed to the general public. The ERA had a fantrip on the weekend, but I missed that. The last train consisted of 99% railfans and maybe 1% riding public. Enroute, light bulbs, seats and car cards were being stolen, but those cars were going to be scrapped anyway. There was no crime or vandalism, just sad railfans celebrating an end of an era. Even people along the ROW were leaning out their windows and waving to us. Bill "Newkirk" |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 7 16:56:17 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Aug 7 15:12:48 2005. The German restaurant near Jamaica and Lefferts was The Hofbrau, I believe. Or the Triangle? Unless that was a seperate restaurant. |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M] |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Aug 7 16:59:31 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave[R32 On the M], posted by William A. Padron on Sun Aug 7 16:14:54 2005. I remember the Artens on the (LL). Some were signed up Rockaway Park !Bill "Newkirk" |
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Re: Metropolitan Ave |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 7 17:00:28 2005, in response to Re: Metropolitan Ave, posted by rushhoursardine on Sun Aug 7 15:01:42 2005. There is also "Van Westihagens" (Sp?), a couple blocks from Zum Staamtisch in Glendale. Glendale, is probably one of the last vestiges of the German heritage of the area.The Wintergarden in Ridgewood (near the abandoned mezzanine of the Forest AVe station) also closed within the last year or two. It was one of the last old-German bars in Ridgewood. Most of the old German bars in Ridgewood became Romanian and Yugoslavian (Albanian, Serbian, Croation, etc) private social clubs in the 80's. Interestingly, a few of them have been transformed back into tradtional bars once again (under different names of course) what with all the Polish immigrants that have begun to take over Ridgewood over the last few years (The old Wintergarden being one of them). Ridgewood is predominantly Polish and Hispanic now, with a splash of other Eastern Europians like Romania, and the countries of the former Yugoslavia. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 7 17:03:56 2005, in response to R39's and Myrtle El Speculations Re: Metropolitan/Myrtle el, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Aug 7 12:11:20 2005. Yes, it is quite a shame. I would have been a daily user of those R39's on the Myrt back in the late 90's and early 90's.Ooops, I meant late 80's and early 90's. |
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