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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Dec 16 18:11:16 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Michael549 on Sun Dec 16 18:08:13 2007. I remember in the news some time ago, about a small child who had fallen between the cars because the car door opened suddenly while rounding a curve. There is a danger when one is between the cars.Actually, in that case, didn't the storm door fly open, and the child get launched outside to his death? I don't believe the child was outside of the car at the start of the curve. This is one reason why I believe all cars should have their storm doors normally locked (and retrofitted with emergency door openers a la the Boston T) once the R32-42 cars are retired. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Dec 16 18:11:54 2007, in response to Re: Somewhat related (was: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn), posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sun Dec 16 17:49:06 2007. That's not what makes Islam great. You don't need Islam to not drink alcohol. I don't drink alcohol either, and I'm not a Muslim. I don't drink it not because of a moral prohibition. I don't because I never got a liking for the taste and I don't enjoy it - so I don't.What makes Islam hang together, like Judaism, or Christianity, is a set of understadable tenets that you can follow and practice and be at one with your God (Allah in this belief system) and so on. The alcohol ban is a detail, but it's only one detail, not even the major one. I'm not knocking it, mind you. The major tenets of Islam include the prayer requirement, the Hajj and charity. |
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Posted by MJF on Sun Dec 16 18:13:19 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Dec 16 16:44:12 2007. Yes. All employees in safety sensitive titles (which is more or less EVERY title) are subjected to random testing.Now, to volley this back to you, are NYPD officers subject ot random drug & alcohol testing? Just curious. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Dec 16 18:17:12 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by MJF on Sun Dec 16 18:13:19 2007. They are, actually. And now, the same tests are being applied after a gun is discharged, in the wake of the Sean Bell incident. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sun Dec 16 18:24:42 2007, in response to Re: Somewhat related (was: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn), posted by RonInBayside on Sun Dec 16 18:11:54 2007. It is, however, a requirement of orthodox Islam to not consume alcohol, similar in type to that of orthodox Judaism (and orthodox Islam too) not to consume pork. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 16 18:35:51 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Dec 16 17:34:22 2007. No, that's not why. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 16 18:36:54 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by trainsarefun on Sun Dec 16 17:41:19 2007. why ask whydrink bud dry |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sun Dec 16 18:38:20 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 16 18:36:54 2007. drink bud dryWhy pay to drink bud dry when there's tap water? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 16 18:40:22 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by trainsarefun on Sun Dec 16 18:38:20 2007. because |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Dec 16 19:31:17 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Dec 16 18:11:16 2007. In Baltimore, end doors have been locked since the line opened in 1983.One (old) oddity was the key used to unlock the doors was the same as a PRR coach key (which I happened to have) and yes I did use it every once in a while, never in rush hours. When the cars underwent their GOH recently, the locks were changed. RATS!! |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sun Dec 16 19:35:49 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Dec 16 19:31:17 2007. Is there an automatic or manual mechanism to unlock the doors, other than the key? |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Dec 16 20:20:50 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by trainsarefun on Sun Dec 16 19:35:49 2007. There's a handle and the doors swing in, not slide. To pass between cars requires that the door be unlocked, then you can open it and step across the gap(closing the door as you do), then use the outer handle to open the next car's door (key not needed for this). Not recommended for the average passenger.That's why end doors always have been locked. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 16 20:25:33 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Dec 16 19:31:17 2007. One (old) oddity was the key used to unlock the doors was the same as a PRR coach key (which I happened to have) and yes I did use it every once in a while, never in rush hours.Oh WOW you're bad!!! |
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Posted by South Ferry on Sun Dec 16 20:35:28 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 16 20:25:33 2007. So so bAd... |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Dec 16 20:40:39 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by mr_brian on Sat Dec 15 22:26:15 2007. "This is exactly why I don't cross between cars anymore, period."Me too. I used to do it all the time but when they changed the rules I changed my behavior. It takes me three hours of hard work to make $75; not worth the trouble and the hassle of getting a ticket. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Dec 16 20:48:15 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Joe on Sun Dec 16 13:46:18 2007. "On the LIRR, people are instructed to move forward to get off at Kew Gardens, Forest Hills, and St Albans."I always find this puzzling. The LIRR rule is clear-- no moving between cars while the train is moving. The conductors should not be advising passengers to violate this rule on a regular basis. That undermines the logic and authority of the rule. The announcement should be, "Please move forward while we are at the next stop," or before the train leaves, "Move forward now; you can't change cars while the train is moving." |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sun Dec 16 20:59:54 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Dec 16 20:48:15 2007. The LIRR rule is clear-- no moving between cars while the train is moving. The conductors should not be advising passengers to violate this rule on a regular basis. That undermines the logic and authority of the rule.It's functionally the same as the NYCT rule. If directed to do so by train crew, in either case, one is permitted to pass between cars, according to the rule. The train crews are, therefore, in full compliance with the rule. |
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Posted by danny at 103rd street on Sun Dec 16 21:02:24 2007, in response to busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Sat Dec 15 16:35:56 2007. I got a ticket today 4 crossing cars in the train |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 16 21:07:38 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by danny at 103rd street on Sun Dec 16 21:02:24 2007. really? |
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Posted by South Ferry on Sun Dec 16 21:09:25 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 16 21:07:38 2007. hope so! or is it just that he doesn't wanna feel left out? |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sun Dec 16 21:59:17 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by South Ferry on Sun Dec 16 21:09:25 2007. Seems a lot of people want to join the "Car Crossing Club" and they need a ticket to do it... |
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Posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Sun Dec 16 22:26:20 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by BMTLines on Sun Dec 16 21:59:17 2007. Wait till next year when they start the "Improper use of Emergency Exits club." As for danny, he'll be like the rest of us violators and will be giving their $75 donations to the City of New York within the next 30 days. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Dec 16 23:41:35 2007, in response to Re: Somewhat related (was: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn), posted by trainsarefun on Sun Dec 16 18:04:14 2007. The unlucky will be saying it wasn't their fault.But that's a topic for another thread! |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Dec 16 23:41:54 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 16 09:59:47 2007. Uniforms use to get respect from the public. Remember a mailman or security guard in the supermarket?Now wearing a uniform will get your ass beat before anyone. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Dec 17 00:16:53 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Dec 16 20:20:50 2007. The doors on LA subway cars are unlocked, but I have only see a few people pass between cars. Only once when the train was moving. It doesn't seem safe so I've never even considered it. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Mon Dec 17 00:17:42 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sun Dec 16 10:31:37 2007. He is lucky you just told him about the briefcase. I was on a NY Waterway ferry and someone left a briefcase behind shortly after those incidents. The owner was nowhere in sight so the deckhand tossed it into the East River. The owner came back for it only to be told it was too late.... |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Dec 17 00:18:28 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Easy on Mon Dec 17 00:16:53 2007. You've never had the opportunity to chase Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock through the train? 8-) |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Dec 17 00:19:06 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by BMTLines on Mon Dec 17 00:17:42 2007. And it was full of $100 bills....8-) |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Dec 17 00:25:53 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Dec 17 00:18:28 2007. Not yet, but I mostly ride the blue line so it'd be Jada Pinkett and Jamie Foxx. |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Mon Dec 17 02:12:07 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Dec 15 21:29:50 2007. How times changed. When I was a C/R the bulletin told us to tell people to walk throu the train to the first 5 cars and C/R's would turn thier Transverse cabs into single cabs. Ofcause that was pre 9/11 when I worked the # 1 to South Ferry. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 17 02:18:16 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Mon Dec 17 02:12:07 2007. Too many 12-9's this year. :( |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Mon Dec 17 02:32:58 2007, in response to busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Sat Dec 15 16:35:56 2007. They been cracking down hard. I seen them take lots of people off the trains in ENY at Bway Juction on the A/C/J/L Lines. |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Mon Dec 17 02:49:16 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 17 02:18:16 2007. I tought most of our 12-9's were leapers? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 17 02:52:43 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Mon Dec 17 02:49:16 2007. You'd think, particularly this time of year since it's been customary. I'm sure you already know, as well as a couple of my other buddies that most of THOSE actually aren't leapers, but medical conditions where they end up falling off. But no, lately, a LOT of people have been falling between cars. Therefore the blitz ... can't do much about suiciders, can't do much about medicals, but they feel they can at LEAST do something about the stupid to lower those numbers. :( |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Dec 17 03:29:05 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Dec 16 08:46:17 2007. Thanks, Mr. Bill. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Dec 17 03:38:08 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by streetcarman1 on Sun Dec 16 15:59:26 2007. As a matter of fact....I am suprised no one goes to the Flushing Main Street station. On a good day, they could write a ton of tickets for the amount of people that walk in between the cars. Just my own personal observation.The same can be said for most terminals. Rather than walk along the platform to find a car, most people tend to enter the car nearest to them (so they won't risk missing the train), and then walk through the cars. I have seen undercover cops at Flushing - Main Street pulling EVERYONE off who was walking between the cars. Soon, other people saw this and got the message. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Dec 17 03:45:15 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Dec 17 03:38:08 2007. That's a hard habit to break - but it will break. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 17 06:18:25 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 17 02:18:16 2007. As I understand it, it has NOTHING to do with too many 12-9's this year. It has to do with too many lawsuits against the MTA, and reducing that liability. Where did you get your reasoning from? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 17 06:24:48 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 17 06:18:25 2007. My information is different. I asked someone I know with NYPD about it, and got an answer *I* can respect. Yes, this year has suffered an unprecedented number of people "whizzing on the electric fence" and got thrown from their perch ... but then, you know everything and are an expert on EVERYTHING, so I'm "false" ... I asked for, and obtained fact from those who know WHY. Your excuse, mister know-it-all? :( |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 17 06:35:17 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 17 06:24:48 2007. You, you seem to be incorrect. The law does NOTHING to prevent those 12-9's from happening (the people who goof off between cars and fall). As such, you are wrong - the law is not because of too many 12-9's, but is instead because of too many lawsuits and/or potential for too many lawsuits, and thus they want to reduce their liability. If they wants to save people's lives, they would lock the doors and install a remote unlocking mechanism, as hard as that would be. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 17 06:35:33 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 17 06:24:48 2007. Yes, you seem to be incorrect. The law does NOTHING to prevent those 12-9's from happening (the people who goof off between cars and fall). As such, you are wrong - the law is not because of too many 12-9's, but is instead because of too many lawsuits and/or potential for too many lawsuits, and thus they want to reduce their liability. If they wants to save people's lives, they would lock the doors and install a remote unlocking mechanism, as hard as that would be. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 17 06:48:23 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 17 06:35:17 2007. Yeah, I'm wrong. Enjoy the thrill. :)Oh yeah, and I *lie* always too ... now zip yer fly. Heh. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 17 06:49:32 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 17 06:35:33 2007. Yeah, and Teeyay training solves the photo problem too. Ron's right. You're one of those "hire the handicapped, they're FUN to watch." Moo. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 17 06:50:20 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 17 06:48:23 2007. Thank you for admitting you are wrong. Now about the tens or hundreds of times you have been wrong in the past...? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 17 06:52:50 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 17 06:49:32 2007. No. Like I said, nothing to do with 12-9's and everything to do with lawsuit liability. Sh*t, they probably started considering this law change long before his year even started!Another unwarranted personal attack from Selkirk. I really have you cornered as you have nothing intelligent to respond with. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 17 06:54:41 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 17 06:50:20 2007. Have fun ... Unca Selkirk is *ALWAYS* wrong!And have a NICE day! :) Oh wait, lied again! Heh. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 17 07:04:14 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 17 06:54:41 2007. Thank you for admitting you are always wrong. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 17 07:08:44 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 17 07:04:14 2007. My pleasure! I've FINALLY gotten the gag reflex! :)Yep ... gotta admit, you know EVERYTHING! And I'm your beach! So tell me all about PA-5 car number 5642 which I got to see first-hand over the weekend. How ABOUT that foamer glass, eh? Heh. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 17 07:27:50 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 17 07:08:44 2007. I'm glad you are finally starting to address your problem with untruthfulness. |
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Posted by danny at 103rd street on Mon Dec 17 08:37:30 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Sun Dec 16 22:26:20 2007. Almost every Straphanger is part of the crossing club its like a game, the object of the game is do not get busted or the penalty is a $75.00 dallor Ticket to pay. |
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