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Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......

Posted by aem7ac on Tue Dec 18 02:46:45 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Dec 16 10:30:02 2007.

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You're a fuckwit

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Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 18 06:06:03 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Michael549 on Sun Dec 16 18:08:13 2007.

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I remember in the news some time ago, about a small child who had fallen between the cars because the car door opened suddenly while rounding a curve. There is a danger when one is between the cars.

One has nothing to do with the other. NOTHING.

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Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 18 06:07:38 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Dec 18 01:31:06 2007.

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What if there was an undercover cop waiting?

How will I know that????

Besides other than if there was a homeless person in the car or rowdy kids, why would you need to go from one car to another?

That's been discussed extensively here. And I bet you could guess some too.

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Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......

Posted by Fred G on Tue Dec 18 12:31:14 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by (4) Lexington Av Exp on Tue Dec 18 00:22:12 2007.

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Good, now have a doughnut and stick closer to church-oriented social activities.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......

Posted by Michael549 on Tue Dec 18 14:46:13 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 18 06:06:03 2007.

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The issue of walking between the cars has a number of related issues: safety, lawsuits - past and potential, revenue for the city, the odd's of beating a ticket, the actions of police officers, youth and freedom, relative safety, posted probibtion signs, whether the train is moving or not, should the doors be looked at all times, the MTA's reasoning for such a rule, previous rules and understandings, appropriate or not appropriate tickets, the behavior of riders, etc.

In fact most of this discussion thread has been about all of those issues and more. It all sounds like a healthy discussion.

Mike


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Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Dec 18 15:33:06 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by aem7ac on Tue Dec 18 02:46:45 2007.

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You don't get it (and neither does Spider-Pig, for that matter).

The CRIMINAL justice system is based on innocent until proven guilty. The civil system doesn't have to be...and changing it will not run afoul of the Constitution.

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Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......

Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 18 15:35:19 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Dec 18 15:33:06 2007.

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That much is true.

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Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......

Posted by Easy on Tue Dec 18 15:52:36 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 18 15:35:19 2007.

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No it's not.

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Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Dec 18 16:25:13 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Easy on Tue Dec 18 15:52:36 2007.

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Show me in the Constitution then, where one is entitled to innocent until proven guilty in the CIVIL court system, or any NON-CRIMINAL proceeding.

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Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......

Posted by Easy on Tue Dec 18 16:32:47 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Dec 18 16:25:13 2007.

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Innocent until proven guilty isn't in the Constitution at all. But the premise applies equally to criminal and civil cases. The level of proof is different but the principle is the same.

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Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......

Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 18 17:34:21 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Easy on Tue Dec 18 16:32:47 2007.

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"Civil service" is not the same as "civil court."

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Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......

Posted by Easy on Tue Dec 18 19:05:43 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 18 17:34:21 2007.

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He's talking about civil court, not civil service.

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Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 19 00:26:05 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Dec 18 15:33:06 2007.

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Trying offenses against state regulations in civil courts under civil court rules is a miscarriage of justice.

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Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......

Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Dec 19 00:42:36 2007, in response to Re: busted for moving between cars at Woodlawn......, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 19 00:26:05 2007.

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It will turn into a mispumpkin at midnight. :0)

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