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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 12:02:26 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 30 11:57:34 2005. Henny Youngman made a career of shooting "one-liners". The difference is most people understood what he meant. |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sun Jan 30 12:02:53 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 12:00:16 2005. I know one thing. 100% of our SUV rolled out of a plant in south Japan. It was a Toyota. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 12:11:36 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sun Jan 30 12:02:53 2005. All I know is my Accord, my Cougar and my Windstar were all built here. |
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Posted by BIE on Sun Jan 30 12:12:54 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sun Jan 30 12:02:53 2005. Weird. Look at the transfer case If it is a New Process,(HIGHLY likely) It was made in ZEROcuse. |
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Posted by brooklynQB on Sun Jan 30 13:03:36 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by American Pig on Sat Jan 29 23:12:41 2005. Well, considering we're not muslim.......... |
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Posted by brooklynQB on Sun Jan 30 13:07:41 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 03:32:04 2005. Then how come we're giving them freedom? Explain that shit to me. I say let Saddam get over on them, that's punishment enough. |
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Posted by American Pig on Sun Jan 30 14:44:09 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sun Jan 30 12:02:53 2005. My SUV rolled out of a plant in Cambridge, Ontario.My sedan rolled out of a plant in Saitama, Japan. VIN numbers are cool. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 14:49:33 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by brooklynQB on Sun Jan 30 13:07:41 2005. The Iraqi people are not the enemy here. They are the victims. 50 million Iraqis have been subjugated under a cruel, autocrat and his two maniacle sons. They were subject to torture, rape and barbaric forms of capital punishment for disagreeing with the government, losing international athletic competitions, & thinking for themselves. Do you really think they need to be punished.By the way, we're not giving them freedom. We're giving them the opportunity to have a form of representative government. Today's election is only an intirim step. They will elect a temporary leader and a congress that will write a constitution and form a government that will be elected several months from now. What they do with the opportunity will be determined by how badly they want to succeed. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jan 30 14:54:10 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 11:08:15 2005. You mean Al Bore.The Gulf of Tonken incident (LBJ's excuse for a massive buildup) ocurred in 1968. That's when Vietnam burst into the front page headlines. The Vietnam era was the beginning of the "If it bleeds, it leads" system of TV news that persists to this day. By 1970 the networks were bringing war in all it's bloody glory into America's living rooms in full color. Joe Sixpack was soured and looking around for somebody to blame. Johnson decided (wisely) not to run for a second term. I suspect that when all this was going on, both of us had other things on our minds. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 15:03:33 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jan 30 14:54:10 2005. My only point to Brooklyn QB was that it was the most liberal of the liberal democrats that got us really entrenched in Viet Nam, contrary to what he believes. Also contrary to his belief is the truth that it was a republican that got us out. |
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Posted by BIE on Sun Jan 30 15:21:05 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jan 30 14:54:10 2005. "Gulf of Tonken incident (LBJ's excuse for a massive buildup) ocurred in 1968"Huh? Try August, 1964. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 15:27:40 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by BIE on Sun Jan 30 15:21:05 2005. President Johnson addressed congress on August 5th 1964 and congress passed the "Gulf or Tonkin resolution" on August 7th. For anyone who wants to read about it Click Here |
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Posted by BMT Dude on Sun Jan 30 16:12:00 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jan 30 14:54:10 2005. [The Vietnam era was the beginning of the "If it bleeds, it leads" system of TV news that persists to this day. By 1970 the networks were bringing war in all it's bloody glory into America's living rooms in full color.]Uh, I think that's called Journalism (ie the Edward R.Murrow kind w/balls)....something most reporters have seemed to have forgotten in today's yellow jouralism. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Jan 30 16:34:55 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 11:42:05 2005. The sad thing is that the average car produced in the US must be priced approximately $1,000 more than the price of that same car produced in Canada. This is after taking currancy differences into account. The difference is due ONLY to the cost of medical benifits.Health costs in America wouldn't be so high if we didn't insist on prolonging life in all circumstances, even when quality of life and chances of long-term survival are zero. My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jan 30 16:56:18 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 12:11:36 2005. How do you like your Windstar? I had three of them. 1998, 2000, and 2002. Now I drive a 2003 Altima since I'm a widower.I liked my Windstars a lot. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Jan 30 17:50:19 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sun Jan 30 11:55:23 2005. Anyway, why is there a Commonwealth to begin with?To pretend that the Empire is still there whilst being a totally lunatic PC bunch of tinpots. You said it was a "pointless organization". How could it be improved upon? Everyone using the Pound Sterling would be a good start. Then extend nice ideas like the minimum wage and a harmonised tax policy all over it. Bit like a dispersed version of the EU really. Would never happen though - the tinpots would think that the British were trying to run their excuses for countries. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Jan 30 17:53:00 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 11:03:59 2005. The Irish want complete autonomy from the British. Give them what they want and it all goes away.Tell the Rev. Ian Paisley that. The Extremist Muslims that have targetted the West (Not just the US) are fighting a war over culture. They do not want autonomy nor do they tollerate other cultures. They want to destroy anything that is not a Muslim theocracy - period. Funny how they didn't start bombing Iraq then. Hussein may have been a Muslim of some description, but he was not a theocrat by any means. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Jan 30 17:53:52 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sun Jan 30 11:35:53 2005. Instead of bombing Cambodia, why didn't the Yanks try the same thing?Because the Cambodians might have had something to say about that? |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Jan 30 17:54:55 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by BIE on Sun Jan 30 10:02:27 2005. Well, then there's the reverse strategy of making the Dollar as worthless as possible... |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Jan 30 17:58:29 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 11:08:15 2005. Yes, but nothing can possibly be St. J.F. Kennedy's fault, now, can it? |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jan 30 17:59:01 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by BMT Dude on Sun Jan 30 16:12:00 2005. I suspect that's what really sparked the "If it bleeds, it leeds" attitude in TV news. It's actually a outgrowth of Walter Winchell's style. His "tabloid" approach to his radio and TV programs was the seed that grew todays "yellow jounalism" style.As to television in general, nobody ever said it better than MAD Magazine: "The average American has a forty year old body and a five year old mind. If he watches television for a full year, he will have a forty-one year old body and a four year old mind." It's not called the "Idiot Box" for nothing. |
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Posted by BIE on Sun Jan 30 18:22:39 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Rail Blue on Sun Jan 30 17:54:55 2005. What do you think will happen when the Default takes place. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 30 20:28:14 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by American Pig on Sun Jan 30 14:44:09 2005. Since when do you have an SUV? And do the people aboard it not like us? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 30 20:30:07 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 12:02:26 2005. I asked a question and you guys totally misread it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 30 20:31:12 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 29 20:02:32 2005. I ask again, why don't people aboard like us? |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Sun Jan 30 20:48:08 2005, in response to The politcal Subchat post of the centruy(Re: People abroad not liking us), posted by brooklynQB on Fri Jan 28 12:53:53 2005. Like any liberal, you took those words out of content w/ a small typo anyone could have made. If you posted it with the entire paragraph L train typed, it would have made sense, because whether WMDs were in Iraq or not, was not relevant to his point. Taking the words out of content, you distorted what he said into looking like he said that we went to Iraq for no reason.Just shows how desperate you are after the successful elections in Iraq to find anything you can to get some shot. -James |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Jan 30 21:03:44 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 30 20:31:12 2005. "I ask again, why don't people aboard like us?"They don't dislike us. They dislike Bush. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Jan 30 21:19:01 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 30 21:03:44 2005. They don't dislike us. They dislike Bush.Very true. I've never disliked any American that I've met. |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Jan 30 21:19:14 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 30 20:31:12 2005. The people aboard the Golden Venture sure did. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 22:00:30 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Jan 30 16:34:55 2005. Perhaps but Tort Reform is a significant issue that must be dealt with if we are to rein in health costs. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 22:06:11 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jan 30 16:56:18 2005. I happen to like the Windstar. Mine is a 98 and just turned 50,000 miles last night on my way back from Albany so as you can see, I don't beat the heck out of it. Motor Trend doesn't like the Windstar or Freestar. The only problems I've had were related to sensors. I had a wheel speed sensor fail causing the ABS not to operate and 2 sensors in the transmission failed causing it to downshift at random times. Neither repair was excessively expensive. All in all it meets my needs. I can trailer a bike with it and it holds all the grandkids with room to spara. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 22:10:20 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Rail Blue on Sun Jan 30 17:58:29 2005. Don't ask me. I was a kid when he was elected - and only because dead democrats were allowed to vote in Chicago. I think he's been somewhat diefied due to assassination. I'd not be a fan of his today. |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sun Jan 30 22:12:45 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 30 21:03:44 2005. People aboard what? A train? Or perhaps abroad might've been the word you were looking for.... teeheehee |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sun Jan 30 22:14:05 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by BIE on Sun Jan 30 18:22:39 2005. I dunno, some sorta military saber rattling. |
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Posted by Clayton on Sun Jan 30 23:30:42 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by BIE on Sun Jan 30 07:01:16 2005. This is one of the few times I will agree with what you say :)TRUTH! :D |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 31 07:37:29 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Jan 30 21:19:14 2005. Thank you. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 31 07:38:37 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by AlM on Sun Jan 30 21:03:44 2005. That doen't make any sense. Just because they are aboard, doesn't mean they dislike Bush. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 31 07:42:55 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jan 30 16:56:18 2005. 2003 Altima 3.5 SE ????? Please say you went with the 3.5L 240HP engine! Don't fail me now, Chuck!!!!! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 31 07:43:20 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 19:40:14 2005. Heh. Nah, I was writing more about a collective attitude - but I see some very dangerous long term damage to the present "chatter" from the right - and seeing the effects of "that software company is in America, let's buy the German one, even if it's a piece of qwap." With the House and Senate solidly in GOP hands, who CARES about Kennedy, Kerry or Boxer? Means as much in the greater scheme as Thurmond did when the Dems had both.But the attitude itself is highly destructive and is causing a good deal of the rest of the world to write us all off. And it's not like we're expanding what we have to offer the rest of the world ... if anything, we've got fewer friends than we used to. But most of what I wrote wasn't really directed towards you at all, you just happened to be a convenient hook to hang it on. :) We've REALLY got to start making some friends, and I'm not too sure "Condi" is the way to go about that. Colin Powell, even if he couldn't offer much because he wasn't issued any carrots to hand out, was at least someone the rest of the world could express their exasperation to. He was WELL respected. You can already see the tide going out as Codi steps up to the parrot's perch. :( |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 31 07:44:27 2005, in response to Ford Windstar. Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 22:06:11 2005. Yeah, the car mags don't like the Fords much at all. In the minivan category, all the mad props go to the Honda Odyssey, hands down, no contest. That's what I'd buy if I were in the market for a minivan. Either that or a Chevy Astro extended with all wheel drive. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 31 07:44:48 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by BIE on Sat Jan 29 17:04:01 2005. I *do* worry about Fred ... he may be a republican, but he's still got functioning brain cells. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 31 07:50:08 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 03:20:39 2005. Ah! But I'm on the WINDWARD side, west of both 23 and 24 ... and in a few months, they're gonna start dredging the Hudson ... the stank never makes it towards Schoharie County. :)Even the DEMS won't come out this way ... last time I saw my assemblyfish was 12 years ago - had lunch with Bruno about 6 years ago - last contact with any of them. Ah, the FRESH air. I lift my leg and let one rip every now and then knowing it'll be in Albany in about ten minutes or so, depending on the wind. (grin) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 31 07:52:54 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jan 29 16:11:36 2005. We did that. He was his own favorite vegetable ... remember the "catsup is a vegetable" dance? And seems as though Schwartenegger's also showing signs of "senior dementia" in its early stages. Must be them stage lights that do it. Nah, what the past 20-30 years of "being presidential" has proven is that we'd all be better off with Alan Alda doing a reprise of "Canadian Bacon." :)But it IS heartening to know that a small appliance can run a country. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 31 07:54:14 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 19:46:25 2005. OMG! You just dissed REAGAN! Man, I'm PROUD of ya! (tweak!) ... :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 31 08:00:48 2005, in response to Re to: the traditional left-wing response to the "politcal Subchat post of the centruy", posted by Broadway Buffer on Sun Jan 30 20:48:08 2005. I tell ya, it HAD to be greatly disconcerting when no WMD's were found, after all, they Rummy HAD the receipts for all of them. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 31 08:02:03 2005, in response to Ford Windstar. Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 22:06:11 2005. You were in Smallbany and you didn't come a knockin'? Tsk-tsk. :) |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Mon Jan 31 09:08:49 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Rail Blue on Sun Jan 30 17:53:52 2005. Well, they didn't when the Cong came knocking, so why should they mind when we came knocking? |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Mon Jan 31 09:13:34 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 30 22:10:20 2005. Hey, hey, JFK! how many kids did you kill today? |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jan 31 11:50:23 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 31 07:42:55 2005. I have failed. I bought the 2.5 liter 175 hp 4 banger. But let ne tell you, it kicks ass. Nissan did a bang up job of making that 4 cyl. run like crazy. And it gets great gas mileage, too. You don't really need the V-6 in the Altima. It's a waste of money and gas.From a very satisfied customer..... |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Mon Jan 31 12:03:41 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 31 07:43:20 2005. Well you know Kevin that yesterday's election in Iraq was a pretty successful one. We hoped six million would turn out; instead over eight million voted. Now is the time for the Europeans to get involved and help train the new Iraqi Army and its police forces. This is at least what they should be doing because if they think terror will escape them they only have to look at Holland and Spain to learn otherwise. Here is a unique opportunity for Europe to volunteer to join America for the betterment of humanity. Either that or be in denial about terror and play the appeasement card again. We saw that didn't work before and it cost us dearly in man and treasure in two world wars. Hopefully things will be different this time around. |
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