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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Jan 27 20:28:14 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by tracksionmotor on Thu Jan 27 19:30:40 2005. Peter, you just hit the bullseye right in the center. |
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Posted by tracksionmotor on Thu Jan 27 21:07:35 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Jan 27 20:28:14 2005. Thank you Dan. One more thing: Freedoms Aren't Free!!! Sure, we don't have phenomenal taxation on everything like in Europe but darned sure we have to pay to travel over paid-for bridges and drive upon paid-for highways that receive road and fuel tax funding. Your telephone??? The original charges for 'information access' to provide funding for school internet connections were established by the telephone companies before approval by Congress. Telephone number mobility charge????I like Mayor Bloomberg because he is 'business savvy' but he's too 'cash hungry'. Just got my NYPD license renewal package...fee is doubled to $340 but I get an extra year. In my package was a 'carbon copy' of anothers license and I just got off the phone with him to say I'll mail it off. Fee for 'Second Amendment:' $340. Value of independence and freedom: $ PRICELESS. Value of a ride on my trainzzz: $ Five Bucks (no garuntee of a railfan window or unscratchittied glass.) |
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Posted by tracksionmotor on Thu Jan 27 21:32:03 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Rail Blue on Thu Jan 27 06:55:16 2005. Diplomacy does not work when others want no part of you. War is a conflict of violence to terminate violence. The liberator is often accused of being the aggressor.One of my cats would march by me in total oblivion. She would not answer my calls and my mother suggested I take her to the vet because she was deaf...every 'cat language call' of warning caught her attention irregardless of amplitude. It is the same for the people of Iraq. They are 'deaf' to what has gone about them for decades but are quite aware of the warnings and incidents taking place in their surroundings. The cat eventually showed me recognition...the people of Iraq will eventually show recognition towards the 'free nations' that liberated them from the confines of a hostile government. OUR error is in that WE assume freedom is democracy and OUR democracy is just what they need. What Iraq needs now is freedom of travel...lots of trainzzz and busssess and carzzz to go wherever they want to because the possession of THAT freedom of travel, lacking for decades, will give them the incentive to stand up on their own and decide what type of government they will accept. Just think about if they day came you could not travel without pre-certification of your destination and its mode. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 00:39:26 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by tracksionmotor on Thu Jan 27 19:30:40 2005. Ah well ... we're being told that "freedom" is coming to the middle east - better get my passport. :) |
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Posted by brooklynQB on Fri Jan 28 12:53:53 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by L Train on Thu Jan 27 18:06:35 2005. Said by L train: We tried to explain that Iraq was an imminent thread (whether that was true or not isn't relevant). ::::::::::::giggles at a conservative telling the truth::::::::::: Yeah, sure, giving truthful Informantion about a war isn't relevant. |
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Posted by Flxiblemetro on Fri Jan 28 19:50:21 2005, in response to People abroad not liking us, posted by brooklynQB on Tue Jan 25 20:38:44 2005. I wonder why other nations hate us? I think it's because other nations have different opinions on particular things....Also, I think many different individuals Americans have different point of view on specific things as well. |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 01:25:30 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Flxiblemetro on Fri Jan 28 19:50:21 2005. Frankly I don't give a shit what the French or Germans or Spanish or the Swiss or any other European shitheads think of us. Except for the English and Italians who have supported us the rest can go take a flying leap. And if there are any of you Europas out there reading this go tell your shitty countries what Sea Beach Fred thinks of them and don't let the door slam into your ass on the way out. |
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Posted by BIE on Sat Jan 29 07:27:57 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 01:25:30 2005. 8-) |
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Posted by Deaks on Sat Jan 29 12:03:19 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 01:25:30 2005. Reading that, I just got a greater understanding of why citizens of other countries don't like you.It's a good job all Americans don't think like that isn't it! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 13:11:17 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Deaks on Sat Jan 29 12:03:19 2005. Sadly, too many do. They're called "republicans." :( |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 13:22:32 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Deaks on Sat Jan 29 12:03:19 2005. On your first point, I repeat I couldn't give a rat's ass what those stodgy and gutless Europeans think of me, and if you are an American they probably don't like you either----unless, that is, you one of those bootlicking liberals of the Michael Moore stripe who in fact really hate this country and think Americans are stupid.On your second point, you think anyway you want. The fact is Europe would be speaking German or Russians if we hadn't put our asses on the line twice in shooting wars and once in a 40-plus Cold War to keep Europe free. So really, all I want is that if Europe even gets in the crapper again we leave them leave and let them shi(f)t for themselves. |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 13:24:42 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 13:11:17 2005. No Kevin, it's not republicans but REPUBLICANS---THE PARTY OF LINCOLN, TEDDY ROOSEVELT, DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER AND RONALD REAGAN, AND DAMN PROUD OF IT. |
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Posted by BIE on Sat Jan 29 13:32:42 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 13:24:42 2005. Ok. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 13:52:31 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 13:24:42 2005. Geez Unca Fred ... election's over ... I'm sincerely disappointed in your words, and I say this to you out of respect as a FRIEND. Note my absence in the other comments with respect to politics. I dunno WHAT kinda drugs the GOP is swilling lately (and frankly, I'll drink hemlock first) but what's with the *HATE* in your words? This ain't about Bush in particular, President Bush is merely a reflection of the will of a majority of the (uneducated) public who thinks NASCAR is sport, and Jerry Fallwell's name is really "Jesus" ..."A House divided against itself cannot stand" ... I *know* you know whose words those are. Europe, Asia, the MALDIVES are all part of one tiny little blue orb in space ... I had HOPED the photo sent back fromt he moon might have made that point. It is *NOT* unpatriotic to tell a politician (used car salesmen rate HIGHER in "customer approval" in the latest JD POWER surveys) that they're full of chit and go stuff themselves. Brain Salad surgery optional and where permitted by law. :) But telling the rest of the world to go stuff it? Nope! I'm a PATRIOTIC American myself, and I believe that the rest of the world DOES have the right to participate in discussion, as clearly as I believe that as a "Benevolent Despot" in our so-called "sole superpower" status, that it is INCUMBENT on America to *BE* the "benevolent despot" which we claim to be now ... for the good of an ENTIRE "blue orb" ... The republicans are trying to sell "freedom" to the rest of the world. Now step back for a second and think here ... is *THIS* the so-called "freedom" we're trying to SELL? Rush? Shouting down those who don't march like Nazis in lockstep? Are we "jackbooted thugs?" And we wonder why Iraq is saying, "PTOO to your "freedom," we can already TELL that it sucks!" :( If the United States is planning on bringing about a "New World Order" then it would seem incumbent upon "us" to SMILE when we're trying to peddle our wares as being the penultimate solution to world peace. After all, you can't be selling "world peace" when you're telling the Brits to "go the back way" or telling the French that they're "pédé," or that any OTHER human in the "Pax Americana empire" that they're no more significant than monkeys. Whatever happened to the MAGNANIMOUS "United States" that was a shining example to the world of FAIRNESS, REASON, and TRUE liberty? Oh yeah, republican Yahoos. "Big hat, no cattle." :( C'mon Fred - YOU have brain cells ... drop the parrot routine and express what I *know* is really in there. There is a whole WORLD out there ... and it behooves us to once again get out there. We're already the GOP hardon of a "uberpower" ... but even the ROMAN empire had enough sense to work with the countries they tried to conquer. "Winning hearts and minds" and all that BS ... are we REALLY projecting the BS we're spreading thick and deep lately? "America" has become a BULLY ... is THAT what we're all about? Think about it, with my deepest respects. I've never done this before to you, but it needs to be said, and once again with my deepest respect. BULLSHIRT to your expression there. :( |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Jan 29 13:53:47 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 13:24:42 2005. REPUBLICANS---THE PARTY OF LINCOLN, TEDDY ROOSEVELT, DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER AND RONALD REAGAN, AND DAMN PROUD OF IT.Aren't you proud of Richard Nixon too? Best President sice the war IMHO. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Jan 29 13:55:32 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 13:22:32 2005. The fact is Europe would be speaking German or Russians if we hadn't put our asses on the line twice in shooting warsErrrmmm... people spoke languages other than Russian in Warsaw Pact countries. Indeed, lots of people speak languages other than Russian in Russia proper. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Jan 29 13:57:59 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Mark Michalovic on Thu Jan 27 11:48:25 2005. It goes back further than World War II. The long decline of French power began in the 1700s when Britain, their longtime enemy, began to eclipse it on the world stage.It had something to do with a silly little battle on the 13th of August, 1704. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Jan 29 14:02:40 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by tracksionmotor on Thu Jan 27 21:32:03 2005. Diplomacy does not work when others want no part of you.America had all the good will of the world after 9/11. It is wholly your own government's fault that that is no longer the case. War is a conflict of violence to terminate violence. The liberator is often accused of being the aggressor. Believe that if you want, but there were much better ways of making the case for war than Bush tried. Using words like "evil" and "crusade" and other emotive terms does not sound like the sort of argument a sane politician would use in Europe. Bush could probably have gotten Europe to agree to the war if he hadn't been so bloody-minded about it. |
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Posted by Deaks on Sat Jan 29 15:01:44 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 13:22:32 2005. You expect me to take you seriously after that outburst of laughable stupidity? I can't, I'm afraid, I'm too busy sniggering at the all-to-predictable resort to the 'we won the war for you' line.I've met many Americans and have found them all to be a likeable and agreeable bunch. But when a minority of US citizens have as sorry an attitude as yours, it really is no wonder that your country ain't exactly very popular in certain parts of the world. |
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Posted by Deaks on Sat Jan 29 15:05:23 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 13:11:17 2005. I'll take your word for that Selkirk.... I don't really have much idea of how your political system/junta works, and watching Messers Bush and Kerry on TV hasn't exactly encouranged me to find out. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 15:43:05 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Deaks on Sat Jan 29 15:05:23 2005. I'm grateful to be safely ensconced in the woods of upstate New York where not only haven't we SEEN a politician in a dog's age, but they actually FEAR us ... or the bears, we're not really certain which however.Sadly, anyone CAPABLE of being leader has sufficient intelligence never to SEEK the office of Grand Poobah here - they're all wanks which get anointed. Schwartzenegger, need I say more? :) Truly sad though that Kerry and the OTHER "Yalie skull and bones preppie" couldn't even do a decent face-off, much less bring up anything more signficant to vote on than lies, half-truths and inuendo. Then again, America took in Rupert Murdoch ... GLADLY. :( Dunno if you've ever seen the Robin Williams film, "Moscow on the Hudson" but ... (shhhhhhh!) ... " i defect ... " (grin) |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jan 29 16:11:36 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 15:43:05 2005. Y'know, it would be nice to have an actual leader up in the White House - or at least see some political intelligence from Hollywood, which has enormous political potential if only the studios took politics seriously! |
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Posted by BIE on Sat Jan 29 17:04:01 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 13:52:31 2005. Selly, Don't worry about Fred, the rope is broken, America is falling and he'll find our soon enough. Talk to him about this in a few ywars. |
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Posted by brooklynQB on Sat Jan 29 18:02:00 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 01:25:30 2005. I'm sure every European out there has one word for you: DITTO.Here's something no one has ever had the presence of mind to actually notice: The bigger a country's infulence get's, the harder the eventual fall is. Britain went from world power to being bombed by Germans. Same with Spain and France. Now, does this mean we shouldn't have an impact on the world, no. We should push hard for democratic reforms and should be a negoiator using our military might as a bargining chip. Remember, we started off as country fighting an occupying force. And one of our tactics was terrorism. In fact, one of the first gurellia wars was the American Revolution. So I think America should simply take the cool headed approach and try to only use our strength when we really need to. |
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Posted by brooklynQB on Sat Jan 29 18:05:51 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Deaks on Sat Jan 29 15:01:44 2005. The key word being "minority". The 9/11 terrorist judged us based on the ignorant minority, that's what I hate. |
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Posted by Flatbush41 on Sat Jan 29 18:16:47 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by M15 to South Ferry on Thu Jan 27 14:47:05 2005. Well the main problem was that costs for parts and fuel went sky high, and after the accident in 2000 things were never the same regarding the Concorde. I say it was WAY ahead of its time, although it was sad to see them go. |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 19:40:14 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 13:52:31 2005. OK Kevin, you had your say and I respect that. The thing that really got be chapped was when Kennedy went off on his cut and run diatribe the other day. That man has really lost it and I'm not so sure that those 13 dorks who voted against Condy was just a spite attack on President Bush. That did get my Italian up. As far as my "and proud of it" routine, I was just twisting your psyche a little. No harm intended; never would do such a thing to a guy I like and respect as I do you. Lighten up. This time you missed the humor in my retort to you, so I must have gotten you real good. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Jan 29 19:42:53 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by brooklynQB on Sat Jan 29 18:02:00 2005. The bigger a country's infulence get's, the harder the eventual fall is. Britain went from world power to being bombed by Germans.Britain's supposed downfall is overplayed. It's the only country in Europe with half-decent armed forces. It also has a population roughly three times that of New York State, so it's hardly as small a country as it looks on the map. Okay, the UK is nowhere near as powerful as the USA, but it's still way more powerful than most countries on earth. |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 19:43:19 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Jan 29 13:53:47 2005. IMHO? I don't know what abbreviation means, sorry about that. I am as proud of Nixon and you should be about Carter. In fact, though, Nixon destroyed himself. He had it within his power to become a great President---ABM Treaty, Berlin Accord, opening to China, revenue sharing, affirmative action, etc. But he was paranoid and payed for it. |
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Posted by DreamSubward on Sat Jan 29 19:45:46 2005, in response to People abroad not liking us, posted by brooklynQB on Tue Jan 25 20:38:44 2005. Jealous, they all just jealous.I am a Chinese American person and I know that, the reason they dislike US is because US doesn't give as much advantage to China as the sourrounding countries (i.e. Japan, Korea and Phillipine) The second reason is because China is not as powerful as the US. Trust me, if any countries become as powerful as us, they will act like so call "bully" too. |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 19:46:25 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jan 29 16:11:36 2005. Hollywood? Hollywood? Are you kidding????? They are so far out of it with their wine and cheese, and latte, they can't see from down to up. And this thing about leaving the country if Bush won. I've heard that from messrs Redford, Baldwin, Streisand, and the rest, and their sorry and tired asses are still with us. What's the problem? They can't afford a ticket? Why don't you offer to buy them one so we can rid ourselves of some bad rubbish. |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 19:50:24 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Deaks on Sat Jan 29 15:01:44 2005. Hey Deaks, you didn't say what country you're from so I can't really extrapolate what your angle is, but I repeat that I don't give a hoot what your foreigners think of me. I, along with 61 million people who voted for W. feel the same way. And we did save those sorry European asses twice in the last century. In fact, until 1945 the "civilized and cultured" continent never had more than 20 years of peace before we ended WWII for them. Remember that. |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 19:52:53 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by brooklynQB on Sat Jan 29 18:05:51 2005. Hey QB, the terrorist that attacked us was a filthy rotten murderer who ought to burn in hell for what they did. My distaste for those disgusting Arab killers who tried to despoil my country, and the fact that you think they judged us just shows me you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Get out of liberal New York and visit the heartland and you might learn something. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Jan 29 19:53:06 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 19:43:19 2005. I am as proud of Nixon and you should be about Carter.Carter was a nice man. Nixon was a great man. There's a difference. But he was paranoid and payed for it. He payed for not crushing the silly Watergate case when he could have. There's no doubt the guy was totally off his rocker, but he did a hell of a lot more for America than any other modern president - his "peace with honor" was ultimately sincere. As well as the foreign policy achievements which are usually hyped up (China, SALT, Vietnam), his policies on domestic matters from the Environment to Drugs to Social Security were truly visionary. |
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Posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 19:55:48 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by brooklynQB on Sat Jan 29 18:02:00 2005. The war on terror is A WAR!!!!!! Why can't you liberals get that through your heads? We are at war and those of you who wish for our demise are in for a shock. We aren't going anywhere. We are a great country and our best years are ahead. If you feel uncomfortable with that, you might join Baldwin, Streisand, and Redford and head for Canada, Ireland, Cuba or wherever your choice is. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Jan 29 19:58:26 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 19:55:48 2005. That's dignifying terrorists more than they deserve: they did not commit an act of war (that would presume they had the authority to commit such an act - they didn't); they committed a crime. The organisations which should be the primary weapons against this sort of crime are the FBI and the CIA. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 29 20:02:32 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 19:50:24 2005. Why don't people aboard like us? |
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Posted by brooklynQB on Sat Jan 29 20:36:49 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 19:55:48 2005. Don't EVER refer to me as "you liberals". US "liberals" we're the ones who got you through two world wars. You guys couldn't even get us out of Vietnam.If you think I want America to fall then you know where you can go. I love America and you can ask Strappies since they saw one of my threads on serving America. I love America and I hope we're the power forever. But we should think about ourselves instead of thinking about others. I'm all for invading countries that threaten us and If I knew what Afganistain was doing before 9/11 I would have ordered rpeemtive action against Afganistain. I don't see any of you NEO's suggesting that!!!!!!! Don't be an ass because someone doesn't agree with you. If you feel so good about invading countries, put your money where you mouth is and sign up for the Military now. But until then, don't act like you're better, tougher, or in the know, because you're not. |
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Posted by brooklynQB on Sat Jan 29 20:40:57 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 19:52:53 2005. ::::::::::::Sigh::::::::::::Where did I say they we'rent murderers. But they said their actions we're JUDGEMENT based on the ignorant minority. It doesn't make it right and they do deserve to burn in hell, but that's how THEY THOUGHT, not how I THINK. And maybe you should talk to someone who actaully had a connection to the WTC like my family, until then, you need to stop talking. |
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Posted by BIE on Sat Jan 29 20:47:10 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by brooklynQB on Sat Jan 29 20:36:49 2005. Ok. |
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Posted by American Pig on Sat Jan 29 22:54:17 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Jan 29 19:53:06 2005. his policies on domestic matters from the Environment to Drugs to Social Security were truly visionary.What did he do to Social Security? |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jan 29 23:02:08 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Jan 29 13:57:59 2005. 1704? |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jan 29 23:03:58 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 13:24:42 2005. And Michael Bloomberg (for the past few yrs) and Schwarzenegger and even (seeing as he sat in on the gop convention) Michael Moore. |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jan 29 23:06:59 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Jan 29 19:53:06 2005. So why do people seem to like Ronald Ray-gun better? |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jan 29 23:12:06 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Sat Jan 29 19:46:25 2005. See, that's the problem. They don't take politics seriously. They think it's a night in a Las Vegas casino, and if they lose the bet they figure they can get a better deal at, say, the Luxor. After all, they HAVE money, so they figure bread and circuses are better with their whine (sic) than any actual effort at convincing Americans of anything or to do anything. Gropenfuhrer and Reagan are that rare breed of actor who have actually done something with the charisma gained on the silver screen. |
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Posted by American Pig on Sat Jan 29 23:12:41 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by brooklynQB on Sat Jan 29 18:05:51 2005. No, they didn't. The 9/11 terrorists wanted to kill westerners because we do not want to live in a Muslim theocracy. A majority of people in America don't want to live in a Muslim theocracy. |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jan 29 23:16:11 2005, in response to Re: People aboard not liking us, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 29 20:02:32 2005. Top Nation syndrome. The big kid on the block becomes the one to pooh-pooh and rebel against, and - let's face it - we're the big kid. Don't like it? There's a country called China who's probably happy to take the baton. |
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Posted by American Pig on Sat Jan 29 23:16:32 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by brooklynQB on Sat Jan 29 18:02:00 2005. The bigger a country's infulence get's, the harder the eventual fall is. Britain went from world power to being bombed by Germans.Being bombed does not equal a fall from being a world power. Britain did win that war, and its downfall (which wasn't all that big a fall as Rail Blue pointed out) was for different reasons entirely. The USSR was fucked much harder by the Germans and yet emerged from that ordeal as a great world power for the following 40 years. |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Jan 29 23:21:11 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by American Pig on Sat Jan 29 23:16:32 2005. It went from being an Empire to being the Commonwealth of Nations. Not that big a fall, but one hell of a change! |
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Posted by American Pig on Sat Jan 29 23:22:54 2005, in response to Re: People abroad not liking us, posted by DreamSubward on Sat Jan 29 19:45:46 2005. China gets fewer advantages than Japan, Korea and the Philippines because of the Communists. |
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