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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 12 20:05:36 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 12 19:48:27 2013.

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Since when did CI have to ever deal with cars assigned elsewhere?

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 12 20:09:36 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jun 12 20:05:36 2013.

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When they needed majors.

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jun 12 21:38:56 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 12 16:09:37 2013.

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'As to Queens though, they got all the new and shiny'

I often wondered why in the last days of the R-1/9s, the BMT eastern div got the latest models of pre war equiptment( #1600-1802), repainted inside & out & outfitted with those gray backbreaking, hemmorriod harming seats while the Queens Blvd line stayed with the older R series cars (# 900-1300), unrepainted with the old wicker seats??

On the surface of it, it would have made more sense to have the "newer" R-9s working the more heavily used QB line assuming that the R-9s would hold up better being somewhat newer.

Guess that situation ran under the radar of the Queens Democratic Club

Just wonderin

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 12 22:02:53 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jun 12 21:38:56 2013.

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Heh. Actually, the older wrecks assigned to the (E) were truly on their last legs. Even over on the D, we got some real junkers with the logic used elsewhere that they only rolled as put-ins for rush and got put back as soon as they got there. IF they got there. :)

The lower numbered ones though all had serious sclerosis of the air pipes and all sorts of problems that they weren't going to fix. They did set aside a few cars for new piping, compressors and such but I don't know what ever came of that. The 7's and 9's though were in better shape than the rest.

But I'm guessing that the wrecks only came out to play for rush hours like over on the D.

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 13 08:43:52 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jun 12 19:48:27 2013.

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I think more like they did not want a 35 year old car running thru Dekalb - Prospect Park and potentially breaking down.

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Thu Jun 13 12:12:22 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 12 15:01:38 2013.

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This also led to the smorgastrains to spread the A/C'ed R-42s around "evenly".

--Mark

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 13 13:27:48 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Thu Jun 13 12:12:22 2013.

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The politicos did promise "air conditioned trains everywhere" without bothering to count. :)

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 13 14:30:07 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 12 22:02:53 2013.

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Many of the R-7s and 9s assigned to the BMT East were among the groups refitted with varying degrees of new piping with rebuilt compressors , cleaned piping with rebuilt compressors, cleaned piping with new compressors and new piping and new compressors. They were initially renumbered with numbers A00 through E99 and the letters of the various groups indicated what type of brake system overhaul the cars had. The temporary numbers were pasted over the original numbers with black numbers on white background. These cars were actually on the Queens IND until their transfer to the BMT when their original numbers were restored.

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 13 14:45:08 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by randyo on Thu Jun 13 14:30:07 2013.

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I remember seeing them at Coney. Didn't know if they ever made it past the test phase given that new cars were coming in and CIY was really getting rired of all the bailing gum and chewing wire wasting their time with arnines trying to make service. So then some of those cars actually made and stayed in revenue?

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 13 14:53:09 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 13 14:45:08 2013.

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Yes. When their original numbers were restored, they were assigned to the BMT East, KK, M and LL and later the J when the M was routed to Bkln and the R-27s/30s went to the M. I operated them myself when I was a V/R M/M on the M and LL and occasionally the KK.

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 13 14:55:42 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by randyo on Thu Jun 13 14:53:09 2013.

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Musta been nice having arnines that actually blew air and had compressors that turned off every now and then. :)

Some of the consists I got handed were amazing in their ability to keep warbling the entire trip. Heh.

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 13 15:05:47 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 13 14:55:42 2013.

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When I worked the B, CC and D I had a few of those.

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 13 15:07:33 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by randyo on Thu Jun 13 15:05:47 2013.

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The D got LOTS of those because it was usually one round trip and back down the ladder after you did it. So for those put-ins, we got every derelict that would release. :)

90 pounds ... yeah, sometimes. Often, I was lucky to get that needle barely above 70. But if it released, it went. :(

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by Joe V on Thu Jun 13 15:14:30 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by randyo on Thu Jun 13 14:30:07 2013.

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I was commuting from Woodhaven Blvd to 121st Street in the Spring of 1968. Around 8am, I would catch a Jamaica-bound Standard for the returning JJ skip-stop, which one-by-one became an R-9 over a period of several months. I can still remember the smell of fresh enamel paint in them as they came on.

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 13 16:00:19 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by randyo on Thu Jun 13 14:53:09 2013.

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you had to know my pops..

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jun 13 16:12:06 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 13 16:00:19 2013.

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He knew Uncle Ed too, so it's definitely a safe bet. :)

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by randyo on Thu Jun 13 19:01:54 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 13 16:00:19 2013.

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What was his name?

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jun 13 21:08:57 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by randyo on Thu Jun 13 19:01:54 2013.

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ill email it.

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Jun 13 22:32:31 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by CJ on Tue Jun 11 23:55:00 2013.

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Frankie and G were mostly R32 at that time.

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Jun 13 22:36:05 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Wed Jun 12 16:54:29 2013.

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and never saw clean pre-GOH'ed R42's on the GSS-only nasty, smelly grunged up R27s.

Yes. Up to 11/88 for sure.

The Northern "B" and "D" trains used clean pre-GOH'ed R42's.

The B also had R27/30 and the D already had some R68 in summer 1988.

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Jun 13 22:44:10 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Jun 13 22:36:05 2013.

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Oh and those "clean" pre-GOH R42s were often dark with no A/C either.

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by NorthShore on Sat Jun 15 14:46:12 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jun 12 16:09:37 2013.

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When the MTA acquired the SIRT fom B&O, William Ronan, then Chairman of the MTA appointed by his buddy Gov. Nelson Rockefeller, came out to Staten Island to visit the SIRT facility.
I don't think he was ever on Staten Island before.When he heard "Staten Island Rapid Transit" he thought it was similar to "Bay Area Rapid Transit."
When he saw it he was in a state of shock.

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jun 15 14:57:45 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by NorthShore on Sat Jun 15 14:46:12 2013.

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I loved the old growly B&O cars ... and yeah, Ronan marked his territory there too with MP70's and the war between the states paint job. :(

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by renee gil on Fri Jun 28 07:35:44 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by Joe V on Wed Jun 5 15:56:32 2013.

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well of course.

the R16's were retired on 6/15/1987 and the R42 were rebuilt in 1988-1989.

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 28 07:43:40 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by renee gil on Fri Jun 28 07:35:44 2013.

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What came first to ENY, GOH R42 or GOH R30 ?

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Re: Last run of the R30

Posted by renee gil on Fri Jun 28 08:12:29 2013, in response to Re: Last run of the R30, posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 28 07:43:40 2013.

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GOH R30.

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