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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 6 10:02:49 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SubwaySurf on Wed Nov 6 09:58:47 2013. There was never any Coast Guard or MTA career, let alone being a pilot, a boater and a biker. He's delusional.He's some 15-19 year old basket case. |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Wed Nov 6 10:04:35 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Nov 6 09:59:34 2013. He'll no |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Wed Nov 6 10:05:13 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Nov 6 09:59:34 2013. Hell no |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Wed Nov 6 10:08:11 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 6 10:02:49 2013. I don't think so. Judging by some of the types music links he sometimes post. Like I said I know where he lives, but not what he looks like. Lucky for him |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 6 10:11:25 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SubwaySurf on Wed Nov 6 10:08:11 2013. he's discovering that stuff for the first time on YouTube.Reminds me of bigrene (though it's not him). |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Wed Nov 6 10:11:52 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by AlM on Wed Nov 6 09:59:45 2013. I know. That's why I believe he inherited it and it's most likely controlled since his parents signed a lease before 1968 |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Nov 6 10:16:58 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by B68 slow poke on Tue Nov 5 23:45:22 2013. Tell you what, you punk-ass pussy...why don't you tell this Jew what he can do?It would be fun watching him pound your face into goo. |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Wed Nov 6 10:18:30 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 6 10:11:25 2013. Possibility |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 10:40:21 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SubwaySurf on Wed Nov 6 09:48:08 2013. Rent stabilization is on going. Rent control may be what you are thinking of. You can move into a rent stabilized appt today. |
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Posted by daND124 on Wed Nov 6 11:00:20 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 6 10:02:49 2013. could he be monorail? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 6 11:00:42 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 10:40:21 2013. You can move into a rent stabilized appt today.You can. But it is incredibly unlikely. The overwhelming majority of rent stabilized apartments get removed from the program once they are vacated. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 6 11:11:34 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by Dave on Wed Nov 6 10:16:58 2013. ...why don't you tell this Jew what he can do.It would be fun watching him pound your face into goo. And it RHYMES!! |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 6 11:23:15 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by daND124 on Wed Nov 6 11:00:20 2013. I thought of that but monorail's posts while sometimes vile are also often funny.He's actually been around the block and you can tell from his posts. b68slowpokes's posts, style, links and photos expose his complete cluelessness about the most basic things for anyone over 19. Plus, why would monorail say he's a retired USCG underwater welder, pilot, biker and a whole other bunch of deranged nonsense? Also, Monorail's anti-Semitic posts are written in a subtly clever way. That takes intelligence. B68slowpoke's screeds about blacks and Jews shows that he has none. slowpoke can't remember what he posts from one day to the other. He talks out of his ass about things he's only heard from his bigoted elders. this has been obvious for a long time. b68slowpoke is more like bigrene and Subway Camper (though he is neither). |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Nov 6 11:25:16 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 6 11:11:34 2013. True 'dat! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 6 11:37:04 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by Dave on Wed Nov 6 10:16:58 2013. How about this Jew?  |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 6 11:48:10 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 6 11:37:04 2013. Look at the bright side...........GRAPHIC!! |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Nov 6 11:51:57 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by AlM on Wed Nov 6 11:00:42 2013. "The overwhelming majority of rent stabilized apartments get removed from the program once they are vacated."False. They only get removed if the building had gone to co-operative apts. then that would happen. If a building never went co-op, then the apts. would continue to be R/S. Only apt. where someone makes $100k annually is where the landlord can take it off and then charge market rate since the tenant has the means to pay more. |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Wed Nov 6 12:05:37 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 10:40:21 2013. I KNOW that. 30 years ago was 1983. Rent control ended for new leases in 1968. |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Wed Nov 6 12:10:02 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by AlM on Wed Nov 6 11:00:42 2013. That is incorrect. Grand fathered rent controlled units are removed when the renter leaves.....rent stabization is still a reality despite the efforts of that shitstain Joe Bruno |
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Posted by Dave on Wed Nov 6 12:32:01 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 6 11:37:04 2013. Most don't know that Ben Grimm is Jewish. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 6 13:08:10 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by AlM on Wed Nov 6 11:00:42 2013. TOTALLY false. That is RENT CONTROL. Rent Stabilization remains unless the rent goes over $2000. So your statement is completely false. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 6 14:03:43 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 6 13:08:10 2013. So your statement is completely false.No, my statement as qualified is completely true. The minute an apartment renting for under $2000 goes vacant, the landlord does enough renovation to get the permitted rent up to $2000. The apartment then goes on the market destabilized. Once in a blue moon a landlord forgets to do this and the apartment remains stabilized. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 6 14:15:17 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Nov 6 11:51:57 2013. Read my other post. The landlord just does enough renovation to raise the rent to $2000 and out it goes. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 6 14:15:40 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SubwaySurf on Wed Nov 6 12:10:02 2013. Read my other 2 posts. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Nov 6 14:44:20 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by AlM on Wed Nov 6 14:15:17 2013. "The landlord just does enough renovation to raise the rent to $2000 and out it goes."You mean like lining the walls with gold leaf? come on now. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 6 15:06:27 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Nov 6 14:44:20 2013. your mother works at Pollo Don Mario in Brentwood. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 6 15:11:17 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Nov 6 14:44:20 2013. You mean like lining the walls with gold leaf?No, that's not what I mean. They figure out a way to spend the money in a way that makes the apartment more attractive and makes it easy to get the $2000 rent. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Nov 6 15:18:05 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 6 15:06:27 2013. 
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Nov 6 15:19:53 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 6 15:06:27 2013. 
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Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Nov 6 17:21:26 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by RockParkMan on Sun Sep 16 09:08:18 2012. No, he needs to call my company United |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 6 17:29:19 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by dand124 on Tue Nov 5 21:39:50 2013. Fail. You are a walking ad-hominem. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 20:31:16 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by AlM on Wed Nov 6 14:03:43 2013. As high as rents are outside Manhattan....there are plenty of apartments under 2000. Market rents in many of these neighborhoods are 1200...1300....1400 and up. You thinkevery vacant aapartment becomes 2000? You wouldn't get that in many outer borough neighborhoods. and by the way....you need to spend $1000 in renovations to raise $25.00. So you need to spend $4000 for every $100 in increase.So no rent stabilization does not go away with vacancy in many cases.. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 20:34:25 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by AlM on Wed Nov 6 14:15:17 2013. You wouldn't get that kind of rent in many neighborhoods. $2000 for a railroad apartment for example in the outer boroughs? And you o my get to raise $25 for every $1000 spent. I don't agree with streetcar man often....but gold lined apartment? Come on. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 20:38:41 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by AlM on Wed Nov 6 15:11:17 2013. Try tgeat in many outer borough neighborhoods.....do you think you would get over $2000 for a railroad apartment in a 6 family house in let's say Ridgewood ( a stable working class neighbor hod) no matter how nice you make it? A maxed out railroad apartment would be lucky to get $1500 at market rent. You really don't know do you.... |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 20:42:19 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by AlM on Wed Nov 6 14:15:40 2013. You are still wrong. Who would spend $50000 on one apartment to get a $900 stabilized apartment to $2000....where everything else at market rent is renting at $1400 or at most $1600? |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 7 08:33:26 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 20:42:19 2013. You are citing an unusual case. I didn't say that it never happens. I agree, for apartments whose size and location is such that the prevailing rent in the neighborhood is well below $2,000, it will happen.Calll up a broker and ask him how many rent stabilized apartments he has listed. Don't be surprised if he starts laughing hysterically. There are virtually zero available. In particular, areas where they are available are areas where there isn't any apartment shortage. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 09:09:13 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 6 15:06:27 2013. your mother works at Pollo Don Mario in Brentwood.What would be wrong with that? Why do you have contempt for people who work at someplace called Pollo Don Mario? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 09:17:54 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 20:38:41 2013. do you think you would get over $2000 for a railroad apartment in a 6 family house in let's say Ridgewood ( a stable working class neighbor hod) no matter how nice you make it?With some renovations, one can easily bring the asking rent from, say, $1800 to $2025 for an otherwise modest 1-bedroom in places such as Sunnyside, LIC and Greenpoint. Easily. AlM was talking about an average NYC apartment in an average NYC nabe. It's obvious he wasn't talking about a shitty walk-up building on a bad block in Mott Haven. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 09:24:39 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 20:42:19 2013. Who would spend $50000 on one apartment to get a $900 stabilized apartment to $2000....where everything else at market rent is renting at $1400 or at most $1600?I WOULD if it's the right neighborhood. What "everything else" is renting for is only a snapshot of that neighborhood's rental market is in November 2013, not in November 2016. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 7 09:27:20 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 09:09:13 2013. Because eating Pollo Don Mario makes me feel Oh So Sorry-O.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 09:36:10 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Nov 6 20:31:16 2013. Not on the $1300 dump in Ozone Park but you can bet that a well though-out upgrading of an $1650 apt in a 6-unit Queens Crap-style building in Elmhurst will get you there. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 7 09:45:56 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 09:36:10 2013. Note also that apartments in buildings of 5 units or less were never in the rent stabilization program to begin with. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 11:09:04 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 09:36:10 2013. A lot of the Queens Crap type of buildings were built AFTER Rent Stabilization applied. There are thousands of rentals available in many NYC neighborhoods in which the market rate is $1200 or $1400 TOPS. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 11:11:25 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by AlM on Thu Nov 7 09:45:56 2013. So? I specifically said 6 family houses. How many properties do you own in NYC to know what market rent is in some of the neighborhoods?I own one, and speak from direct first hand experience. I could never get more than $1500 in the building I own, no matter HOW nice I made the apartment. And neither could anyone else in the neighborhood (I know many landlords that completely gutted apartments and everything is new, and they still only get about $1500 tops MARKET rent, and are STILL under rent Stabilization at those numbers. And this is a good neighborhood, that was never bad. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 7 11:14:27 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 11:11:25 2013. OK, fine. Maybe I exaggerated. But the argument about rent stabilization is that it causes shortages of available apsrtments. What you are saying is that rent stabilization has no effect, because it's the market, not the law, that governs prices. Fine. You've just undermined the main argument against rent stabilization. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 11:14:52 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 09:24:39 2013. Of course. But there are MANY neighborhoods that are NOT the right neighborhoods. THAT is my point. Every building isn't in Park Slope or Williamsburg. There are plenty of DECENT always nice neighborhoods where market rent would NOT ALLOW $2000. A railroad apartment in a neighborhood with block after block of railroad apartments will not allow $2000 rent no matter how nice you make it. That's not saying a neighborhoood is not goood....far from it.....but market rent is still market rent. |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Thu Nov 7 11:18:15 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 11:09:04 2013. News flash ..... Any land lord can bring any rent stabilized unit up to market value. Just keep it vacant for 6 months or use it as a primary residence for any relative of the landlord. Kicker, it will still be rent stabilized. I know many who live in 1200/m units, but they are still rent stabilized. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 11:19:00 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 09:17:54 2013. With some renovations, one can easily bring the asking rent from, say, $1800 to $2025 for an otherwise modest 1-bedroom in places such as Sunnyside, LIC and Greenpoint.Of course, but it's FAR from blanket. A neighborhoood like Ridgewood for example is a GOOD stable neighborhoood, but you stilll top out at abvout $1500 for market rent in many parts and types of apartments. FURTHERMORE, there are thousands (if not 10's of thousands) of apartments where rent stabilization STILL is only about $900 to $1000 on them. Even with vacancy allowances and spending upwards of about $50000 on an individual apartment to "get it to $2000" would STILL not enable you to rent it for $2000 in a neighborood where that type of apartment in PRISTINE new condition will only allow you at $1500 through MARKET forces. Someone would be foolish to spend that kind of an investment on an apartment just to get it out of "rent stabilization" when they couldn't rent it for more than market rate to begin with. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 11:31:19 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by AlM on Thu Nov 7 11:14:27 2013. STILL false, as you keep forgetting that there are THOUSANDS, 10's of thousands of apartments under rent stabilization in the city that rent UNDER market value due to rent stabilization. This causes people not to move out of a stabilized apartment, so it DOES make a shortage. An older woman renting a 5 room apartment for $900 a month, stabilized will not move to a two room apartment for $1300. The result, families paying over inflated prices for small apartments. It also makes the REMAINING apartments more expensive. Apartments at market rent are vacated easily. A tenant may live there 2 or 4 years, and move, as they can get similar apartments for the same price, or upgrade or downgrade. The result? These apartments have vacancy leases much more often, and the legal rent gets higher and higher, all while the low ones remain low, as people have no incentive to move, or can't move without a HUGE increase in what they are paying.I have it in my own building. I have 6 apartments. 4 of them are at market rent, and two of them are far below market rent. 2 or the 4 apartments have tenants in them where they pay LESS than the legal rent, as those two apartments have had more vacancies over the years. While still not up to that "riduclous" 2000 number you keep saying, the legal rent is about $200 more than I would get on the market. AT the same time, the other two apartments are about $500 BELOW market rent. It makes a very uneven spectrum, and DOES make the AVAILABLE apartments HIGHER because of it, as it causes an artificial shortage. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 11:52:18 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SubwaySurf on Thu Nov 7 11:18:15 2013. Of course. But that wasn't Al's argument. He said rent stabilization was gone after vacancy. FAR FROM it.Just keep it vacant for 6 months or use it as a primary residence for any relative of the landlord. I believe it has to be longer than that to have it market value. Registrations are only done once a year. There's no way you can raise the rent hundreds of dollars because of 6 months. But again, those aren't the apartments where there is an issue. If it's vacant, you can do some renovations (as you should), and bring it to market value. But market value doesn't get rid of rent stabilization, the delusion AL has. Al has some idea in his head that $2000 is some base for market value, and it's hundreds of dollars off in MANY cases. And if I am not mistaken, I think the $2000 threshold has recently been raised to a higher number, but I am not sure of that. Kicker, it will still be rent stabilized. Exactly. I know many who live in 1200/m units, but they are still rent stabilized. Yup, 10s of thousands of people do. |
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