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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 11:56:43 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 11:52:18 2013.

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In fact, Al stated the completely false notion that" it is incredibly unlikely. The overwhelming majority of rent stabilized apartments get removed from the program once they are vacated."

That couldn't be more false. Some do yes, but FAR from "the overwhelming majority". In fact, the opposite is true.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 7 12:07:19 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 11:56:43 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
OK, you've convinced me it's not the overwhelming majority in all of NYC. But it is the overhwelming majority in those parts of NYC where you can't really find an apartment in a 6+ unit building under $2,000. Maybe that's half of NYC, maybe a bit less or more. It's still a VERY sizeable portion of the city.


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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 12:14:26 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by AlM on Thu Nov 7 12:07:19 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Perhaps. My argument was against your statement that the MAJORITY of apartments upon vacancy have nothing to do with Rent Stabilization. Rent Control is gone at vacancy (and goes into Rent Stabilization), rent Stabilization is not. And again, if I am not mistaken, that $2000 threshold was actually raised in the past year or two. Not sure.

Also, all this does not change the fact that rent stabilization (and rent control before it) has caused an INCREASE in rental prices, as the remaining apartments are pumped up (through both market forces and the stabilization system itself), resulting in higher MARKET rental prices.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 12:23:11 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 11:52:18 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I actually answered both questions. The $2000 high rent exemption has been recently RAISED to $2500. (So all expects a landlord to spend at least $75 on an apartment just to get it out of rent stabilization (remember, you only get $25 for every $1000 spent).

Also, SMAZ's notion that you can "make it owner occupied", or "family occupied" for 6 months is also far off base. It's actually 4 YEARS, and only if the rent would have been more than $2500. That's enough time for that ALSO not to be a viable option.

http://www.nyshcr.org/rent/faqs.htm#hrvd2

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 12:23:18 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 11:52:18 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I actually answered both questions. The $2000 high rent exemption has been recently RAISED to $2500. (So all expects a landlord to spend at least $75,000 on an apartment just to get it out of rent stabilization (remember, you only get $25 for every $1000 spent).

Also, SMAZ's notion that you can "make it owner occupied", or "family occupied" for 6 months is also far off base. It's actually 4 YEARS, and only if the rent would have been more than $2500. That's enough time for that ALSO not to be a viable option.

http://www.nyshcr.org/rent/faqs.htm#hrvd2

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 12:31:07 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 11:19:00 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That may be true for Ridgewood but it's not true for some other parts of NY.

Real-estate investment is not about the short-term or the long-term.

It's about the mid-term.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 12:38:34 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 12:31:07 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
There are plenty of neighborhoods where $2000 is too high a rent (and it's been changed to $2500 last year, so all these posts should be stating $2500 INSTEAD of $2000.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 12:39:44 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by AlM on Thu Nov 7 11:14:27 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Great post.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 12:40:51 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by AlM on Thu Nov 7 09:45:56 2013.

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It's why I mentioned the generic and common 6-unit Queens Crap-style property.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 12:49:24 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 12:23:11 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Also, SMAZ's notion that you can "make it owner occupied", or "family occupied" for 6 months is also far off base.

AlM said that.

I already knew that.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 12:49:49 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 12:39:44 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
What I said says nothing of the kind. The market rents are in fact HIGHER BECAUSE of the rent laws.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 12:50:29 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 12:40:51 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Most of the "Queens crap" housing was built AFTER rent stabilization, thus exampt anyway.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 12:53:17 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 12:49:24 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Oh, sorry, another misinformation by Al. I thought you mentioned it.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 13:02:59 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 12:53:17 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Sorry Al, it's actual Subwaysurf that gave us this misinformation.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 7 13:12:07 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 12:49:24 2013.

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Huh?

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 7 13:12:34 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by AlM on Thu Nov 7 13:12:07 2013.

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Never mind.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 13:13:32 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 12:38:34 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
so all these posts should be stating $2500 INSTEAD of $2000.


yes.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 7 13:15:32 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 12:49:49 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I agree but his logic in relation to Ridgewood was impeccable.

Rents are higher on the Upper West Side and in the Village because of rent control/stabilization.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 7 13:26:11 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by AlM on Wed Nov 6 14:03:43 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The limit has been $2500 for a couple of years now.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 13:58:51 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Nov 7 13:26:11 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes, I had thought it went up to $2500 recently too, but wasn't positive if it was a proposal or actually went through. I see it did go through. $2500 is even more powerful for the argument against what Al said though.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by AlM on Thu Nov 7 14:01:15 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 13:58:51 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I agree. $2500 is quite a difference.


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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 14:02:44 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by AlM on Thu Nov 7 14:01:15 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes. It's actually about double what many market rents go for in many neighborhoods.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 14:11:38 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 14:02:44 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I have to congratulate you and others for making a normal post out of the mess the OP was.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 7 14:12:54 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 7 14:11:38 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Haha. It's actually been a fun thread, at least on the diversion anyway. The original post is best just to totally ignore, as it's useless.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Nov 8 07:54:13 2013, in response to I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by B68 slow poke on Sun Sep 16 02:18:57 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You pay $ 564.97 rent in NYC ?

Are you renting a closet ?

Bill Newkirk

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Nov 8 08:37:05 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Nov 8 07:54:13 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, it's the ridiculousness of Rent Control/Stabilization to the point.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 8 14:48:56 2013, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by Newkirk Images on Fri Nov 8 07:54:13 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Transom. In Brooklyn. :)

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by DAND124 on Tue Sep 13 21:56:29 2016, in response to I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by B68 slow poke on Sun Sep 16 02:18:57 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
bump


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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by B68 SLOW POKE on Tue Sep 13 21:59:59 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by DAND124 on Tue Sep 13 21:56:29 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Don't get wise....i.e. $ now $665.38.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 13 22:04:51 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by DAND124 on Tue Sep 13 21:56:29 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You're a jackass

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 13 22:05:16 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by B68 SLOW POKE on Tue Sep 13 21:59:59 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And you're a bigger jackass

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by DAND124 on Tue Sep 13 22:06:58 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 13 22:04:51 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Because i'm documenting his history of anti-semitism?

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Sep 13 22:10:49 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 13 22:05:16 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
+∞

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by Dave on Tue Sep 13 22:10:49 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by DAND124 on Tue Sep 13 22:06:58 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
STFU, Fool. Go find somewhere else to post.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by DAND124 on Tue Sep 13 22:17:03 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by Dave on Tue Sep 13 22:10:49 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Go ahead defend the anti-semite.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 13 22:19:18 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by DAND124 on Tue Sep 13 22:06:58 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No. Go back to what I responded to.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 13 22:19:47 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by DAND124 on Tue Sep 13 22:17:03 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You're clueless

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by DAND124 on Tue Sep 13 22:20:28 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 13 22:19:18 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You responded to me bumping the thread so people would be aware of his anti-semitism

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 13 22:23:14 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by DAND124 on Tue Sep 13 22:20:28 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
We'll I was reposing to the original poster jackass not you

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 13 23:39:26 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 13 22:23:14 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It's very simple: you replied to the wrong post. You can say that.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 13 23:39:35 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by Dave on Tue Sep 13 22:10:49 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
??????????

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 13 23:39:44 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by Catfish 44 on Tue Sep 13 22:19:47 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Why?

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 13 23:40:19 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 6 00:13:22 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Never got an answer to that one. Hmm.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Sep 14 11:07:48 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by DAND124 on Tue Sep 13 21:56:29 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Make no mistake, B68 is a piece of shit. But why bump a 4-year old thread?

Seems someone has no life outside of SubChat.



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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by AlM on Wed Sep 14 11:25:35 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Sep 14 11:07:48 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
But why bump a 4-year old thread?

Providing evidence on one of the "deplorables," maybe? :)



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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by Dave on Wed Sep 14 11:50:56 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Sep 14 11:07:48 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
IVMAWTP.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 14 12:42:43 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by AlM on Wed Sep 14 11:25:35 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes. So people don't see his posts and think he's just a funny guy.

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 14 12:43:21 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Sep 14 11:07:48 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
How do you conclude that?

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Sep 14 12:48:52 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by mr mabstoa on Mon Sep 17 01:22:06 2012.

fiogf49gjkf0d
glad you are gone

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Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent.

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Wed Sep 14 13:06:45 2016, in response to Re: I pay $564.97 a month rent., posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Sep 14 12:48:52 2016.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I miss him.

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