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“Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 6 07:37:35 2023 Associated Press
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 6 08:56:15 2023, in response to “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 6 07:37:35 2023. "There are about 800,000 trips daily on Amtrak’s Northeast Corridor, the White House says.... "Whoa - that's 556 trips per minute evenby my math. What do they consider a daily trip? |
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Posted by pragmatist on Mon Nov 6 09:06:00 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 6 08:56:15 2023. When they give NEC stats, they roll in the commuter lines that use the track, so you end up with around 2200 trains a day. 800,000 is not a stretch when you factor that in....I'd bet VRE,MARC,NJT, and SEPTA move the majority of the passengers on the NEC tracks. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 6 09:20:54 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by pragmatist on Mon Nov 6 09:06:00 2023. Which still leads to my point. In the transit world, "a trip" is a train leaving its terminal in revenue service. 556 trains per minute over a 24 hour period, in science is called CAH CAH. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 6 09:31:12 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 6 09:20:54 2023. I think they meant passengers. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Mon Nov 6 10:32:44 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 6 09:20:54 2023. they don't proofread anymore, it clearly should be passengers |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Mon Nov 6 10:40:17 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 6 09:31:12 2023. 800,000 passengers would seem more like it. Almost like saying 800,000 troops. A troop is a "group" (of soldiers, generally). 800,000 troopers would be more accurate.Just my thought. The WH wants to eliminate delays on the NEC. Aside from the portal bridge, most AMTRAK delays occur OFF the NEC, where the freight train situations are extreme, and AMTRAK racks up heavy delays. The WH should work on that. |
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Posted by r17-6599 on Mon Nov 6 10:42:52 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by pragmatist on Mon Nov 6 10:32:44 2023. They probably left the statement that way; more effective.Aside from Old Joe, I wonder how many of the DC set actually ride or have ridden the trains. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Nov 6 13:13:08 2023, in response to “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 6 07:37:35 2023. Old Sleepy Joe did something right for a change. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 6 13:26:40 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 6 09:31:12 2023. Then they should say passengers, customers, or riders. It sounds like more crooked democRAT antics |
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Posted by pragmatist on Mon Nov 6 13:49:06 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 6 13:26:40 2023. More likely incompetent Amtrak media dept..... |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Mon Nov 6 14:29:43 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 6 13:26:40 2023. Sounds like common everyday English, as opposed to railfan or railroad jargon. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 6 14:58:52 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Italianstallion on Mon Nov 6 14:29:43 2023. I am hardly speaking as a railfan. Clearly the 800,000 trips was stated to mislead. 800,000 rides or fares would be more accurate. By the way, I dealt with the former professionally on a daily basis but not the latter. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 6 15:40:16 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 6 14:58:52 2023. I read 800,000 trips as trips by people, not railcars. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Nov 6 15:49:42 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by r17-6599 on Mon Nov 6 10:40:17 2023. Correct. The freight RRs need to get with the program. And, sad to say, the Chicago so called maintenance shops need to up their game. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Nov 6 15:53:52 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 6 13:26:40 2023. Excuse me, public transit agencies very regularly speak of "unlinked" trips when citing stats. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Nov 6 15:55:02 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 6 15:40:16 2023. Correct. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 6 16:40:58 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Nov 6 13:13:08 2023. Did he? Seems like $16 billion isn't even supposed to be enough for the "Gateway" thingy.Too late to eliminate that curve in Elizabeth NJ. Union County College built their new college campus all over a potential pathway to do that. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 6 16:44:23 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 6 14:58:52 2023. Can't expect too much from a White House reporter, who was the author (Seung Min Kim by name). |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 6 17:10:59 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 6 15:40:16 2023. Well its reasonable for you to make such a ridiculous error as you are a railfan. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 6 17:15:01 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 6 16:44:23 2023. Also writes under the pen nameSum Dum Fuk, I'm guessing. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Nov 6 18:32:53 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 6 09:20:54 2023. I can't think of a better description of Snortin' Joe. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 6 18:51:38 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Nov 6 15:53:52 2023. I'm not sure what you are trying to say! What is the unlinked trip? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 6 18:54:50 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Nov 6 15:49:42 2023. The freight RRs need to get with the programIt's not their program to get on. It's the feds and their myriad of regulations that make it incredibly onerous and unrealistic. You really think that freight railroads ought to be forced to pay out of pocket for track and signaling requirements that not even Amtrak can uphold on the NEC, even with this alleged cash infusion (where the value of money keeps going further and further down)?!? or any other rails under Amtrak ownership? Try forcing Metro-North and ConnDOT to upgrade the New Haven Line to Class 8 track and ACSES signaling too. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Nov 6 21:21:48 2023, in response to “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 6 07:37:35 2023. All I can say is that I hope Amtrak stretches that $16 billion further than it would go on an MTA project.PS-- I had to change the subject as it was limited to 100 characters, a limitation I have not seen in the 20 or so (!) years I've been here. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 6 22:22:52 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC, posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Nov 6 21:21:48 2023. Gateway was estimated at $16.1 billion just two years ago. Contrast that with the original Access to the Region's Core estimates that ranged only as high as $4˝ billion (not much higher than that even when adjusted for inflation). |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Nov 6 22:23:00 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 6 18:54:50 2023. As a stockholder of various RRs starting 65 years ago, I have very little respect for their current behaviors. We, the citizens license them to provide services. We oversee safety, because as history has shown the perennially stingy managements rarely make safety improvements without being forced. Or as many a railworker has written "every safety rule is written in blood".The current era of operating ratio obsessed Wall Street driven PSR is proof to me that we, the citizenry need to more agressive, not less. For example, under PSR trains too long to fit on passing sidings (often on former two main track routes) cause major delays when they break down between sidings. IMHO, outlawing trains any longer than the shortest passing siding on the particular division would be a good start. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Nov 6 22:33:01 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 6 18:51:38 2023. It is a term regularly used in transit agency statistics as published in their annual reports. I believe it seeks to count trips as separate point to point; not segments of a longer trip which are referred to as "linked". Classic distinction in my 60s time in NYC--board BMT at 8th & B'way. change at TSQ to IRT to 96th. (trip to the Thalia for some classic movie. That is a single, linked trip. Taking BMT to TSq, quick dinner at Tad's, then IRT to 96th, these are unlinked. thus counting for agency stats I am, two separate customers. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 6 22:36:34 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Nov 6 22:23:00 2023. The private railroads' "current behaviors" are driven by the FRA. Guess what? You have absolutely no say in the FRA. Your sentiments are utterly misguided, therefore.The FRA's safety rules are not "written in blood", actually. Particularly when they occur under government-run passenger outfits, which you also have no say in. So quit saying "we the citizenry need to become more aggressive" unless and until you put the blame where it lies, which is on the government and not private enterprise. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Nov 6 22:39:10 2023, in response to “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 6 22:22:52 2023. Public projects are run as patronage distributiom. Kleptogarchs contributes to the election of stooges who vote to spend the funds. The problem is bigger than just public transport. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Nov 6 22:41:49 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 6 22:36:34 2023. We will agree to disagree. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 7 01:53:32 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Nov 6 22:33:01 2023. In my world, any time a train left one of my 4 terminals in revenue service, it was counted as a trip. Whether the train completed its appointed run or went out of service en route was irrelevant. The train might have carried up to 3000 passengers at any time or could be totally empty and it would not effect the number of trips. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Nov 7 02:56:28 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 7 01:53:32 2023. Well, the Brighton Beach branch is called the subway despite most of it being either in a ditch, on an embankment, or elevated structure, but in Chicago, several L routes run through tunnels and in expressway medians. Is such a route an elevated?I use the term trip because I learned the meaning by reading transit agency documents. As with many other aspects of RRs, "civilian" vocabulary becomes re-purposed as "in the trade" jargon, I mean, what the heck is a "home ball"? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 7 06:31:00 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Nov 7 02:56:28 2023. The line that I managed was the longest in the city. It had elevated track at 2 terminals, at grade track at one terminal and subway at one terminal. It also had significant trackage over water with 2 bridges. A train leaving Far Rockaway ran on elevated structure then grade level , then elevated and finally subway. But upon reaching 207th st., 30 some odd miles later, it still constituted one trip.A home ball is a signal, usually at an interlocking plant, is controlled from a tower. While an automatic tells you about track occupancy ahead, a home ball will usually display 2 or 3 aspects and provides route information as well as track occupancy ahead. It has other controlling functions as well. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 7 12:35:04 2023, in response to “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 6 07:37:35 2023. I mean, I use the NEC pretty much daily for work, and I honestly don't see the problem.The Only nasty spot on the route that seriously needs help is Newark Penn Station. EVERYBODY knows what a shit hole that place is. It's like walking into a homeless shelter,a place stuck in the 1930s, and the Garbage Dump all at the same time. I actually Hate walking through it. Perhaps some of that money could go to creating higher platforms for the Morris Essex and Booton routes.. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 7 13:24:38 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Nov 7 02:56:28 2023. New York City Transitdoesn't have Rapid transit lines running on Expressway medians. The Port Authority, however,Does,via the Air train Viaduct over the Van Wick Expressway... and next to the Belt Parkway Nassau Expressway from the Howard Beach station. Both routes Originally planned for the IND second system, and extensions future projects. The use of highways for rail service was stopped cold by Robert Moses and his Anti Transit group,in what was considered a racial motive to keep people of limited means from easily accessing the suburban communities. This practice is Still being carried out by the MTA in some manner,by it's Fare Policy, the refusal to build rapid transit further along pretty obvious extensions to reach the City Boarders.. and creating transit lines to cover the gaps in "transit desserts". Connectivity, replacing aging infrastructure, and building new routes..a priority less focused on the subway, and given the stamp of approval for the suburban community. However,as of late, the new governor has stepped up, and decided to move along a project that languished in limbo for decades. I'm looking at this move as a bone tossed to voters.. The new line would be the largest piece of additional mileage added to the system in decades,the last being the Rockaway Line of the 1950s. However, the MTA took away a vital piece of subway extension, but added the route to its railroad plans. The Penn Access route was originally part of a Second Avenue Subway Bronx Extension coming from the south, to reach north east Bronx. The line will now be a extension from the New Haven Line from Connecticut, through the same area the SAS would have traveled, with the same stops. And since this is a railroad,the Bronx portion of the Triboro RX (IBX, now) has been cancelled due to space constraints. This is Pure Politics. Flat out. The MTA has a 20 year plan, and it is Seriously lacking in anything substantial for city riders, but chock full of benefits for the Suburban communities to access the city. It's time New York City woke up to the complete misdirection this "Authority" has been playing around with, and get rid of it. We need an agency that is going to look out for Our best interest, give us the transportation system we Need, and the connectivity we deserve. We honestly need the separation of NYCT and the Railroad systems, or fully integrate them with hybrid technology. We cannot continue this unfair mismanagement, unbalanced and highly favored towards the Suburban lifestyles of the rich and famous... while the city that never sleeps gets the shaft. Some thing needs to be done, and done quickly. |
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Posted by jailhousedoc on Tue Nov 7 14:09:18 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 7 13:24:38 2023. I agree with you - this has been as plain as the sunshine on a summer day, but many turn and look the other way. Still, I hope that a flying junction gets placed at Second Ave. and 125th Street so that in the future an extension of the Second Ave. line can be built to the Bronx, with connections to Third Ave. and 138th Street, Third Ave. and 149th Street, and Northward on Webster Ave. to Fordham Road or even Gun Hill Road and then east - to Co-OP City. I hope it can be done. |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Tue Nov 7 14:51:41 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 6 14:58:52 2023. Really? Come on. It’s not misleading in the least. What rational person would think that there could possibly fit 800,000 trains a day on the NE corridor? It was obvious they mean 800,000 trips *taken by people* each day. |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Tue Nov 7 14:52:21 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 6 15:40:16 2023. Obviously. His Biden Derangement Syndrome knows no bounds. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Nov 7 16:26:22 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 7 13:24:38 2023. Agree about lack of routes to deserts. Also about Moses.About IBX, I believe it should at a minimum be FRA compliant, have a direct transfer station with the Penn access trains from New Rochelle. As a generality, I favor many more rail transit lines. |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Tue Nov 7 16:38:27 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Nov 7 16:26:22 2023. Don’t know about FRA but it won’t be too hard to build a transfer near Woodside to Penn Access. |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Tue Nov 7 17:18:33 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Nov 7 16:26:22 2023. Don’t know about FRA but it won’t be too hard to build a transfer near Woodside to Penn Access. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Nov 7 18:56:45 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 7 06:31:00 2023. My favorite line, too! |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Nov 7 18:57:23 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Italianstallion on Tue Nov 7 16:38:27 2023. The original Triboro plan envisioned using Hell gate to the Btonx. That would require FRA compliand rather that lightrail trains. Ibelieve it would also requirerestoring the 4th main track on the bridge and probably both erd and 4th mains all the way to New Rochelle. In my first daylight ride on thatroute it was clear to me therehad been4 mains, anda few shards of former platforms were still evident. IINM Amtrak eased the curves inplaces by shifting the 2 remaining tracks.Iam very pleased the Gov Hochul took up theproject though dismayed her crew of advisersrecommendedlight rail, and not going to the Bronx. As I have posted before, making suburb to suburb travel connecting New Rochelle to places in Nassau County wouldopen up many new efficient travel opportunities--starting with a quick way fromthe Bronx to JFKwithout having to enter Manhattan. This is not only useful for airline pax, but also airline personnel, and ground services employees. The whole point of ever more connections, transfer points, is to make all trips more flexible. It is, after all why o many use cars. (As I am not legal to drive accountvision, I am more concernedabout ease of using transit.) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Nov 7 21:52:53 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Nov 7 18:56:45 2023. Mine too |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Nov 8 08:22:07 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 7 13:24:38 2023. Interesting. The LIRR and BRT did originally seek to build at leas a partially combined railroad/transit system. As I'm sure you know, the MP 41 cars were meant to run in the subway and did run on the Broadway Elevated. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Wed Nov 8 09:13:37 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Nov 8 08:22:07 2023. there is no evidense that the lirr MP41`S ever ran on the broadway BRT.no photos,no timetables,nothing! |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Wed Nov 8 10:16:45 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Tue Nov 7 18:57:23 2023. I agree. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Nov 8 10:20:26 2023, in response to “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 6 07:37:35 2023. This is the visit that even CNN made fun of. I"m not sure how many times Joe said "don't jump", but when CNN mocks you..... |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 8 19:18:17 2023, in response to Re: “Amtrak Joe” visiting Bear DE to promote $16 billion for NEC and adjacent passenger rail projects, posted by TUNNELRAT on Wed Nov 8 09:13:37 2023. But, the rumor has it that they indeed used Chambers St as a Terminal . |
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