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Re: W to Astoria/N and Q to 96th Street?

Posted by Michael549 on Mon Dec 28 16:10:53 2015, in response to Re: W to Astoria/N and Q to 96th Street?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Dec 28 15:27:48 2015.

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I completely agree with the following statement:

"Yep ... turning around a train these days is a bit more of a chore than it used to be. If you can at least toss it in a pocket after fumigating and relaying, it's not all that much of a challenge."

I also think that attempting to the do ALL of the following within the rush hours is a bit much:

A) Having N & Q trains travel to/from 96th Street/Second Avenue & Coney Island.

B) On the same set of express tracks on the Broadway line, terminate then relay some N-trains, in the midst of the stream of N & Q trains - as well as not diverting any N-trains to Astoria or Queens Blvd.

C) Having large numbers of W-trains traveling between Astoria and Coney Island when there's an open question on the number of trains available.

D) My proposed W-train route works better for "mid-line terminating" with using the Canal Street/City Hall layup area, the Whitehall Street station, and the 9th Avenue station - all due to the layup tracks available.

Under this scheme, at least to me, anyway it seems less complicated in several ways when what we are trying to do is make it less complicated. The only "complicated" part would be the merging & switching of W-trains into and out of the stream of R-trains. Adding more complications to the scheme then goes counter to making it less complicated - in my view, at least.

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My way of thinking is that W-train becomes do-able:

a) If one only needs 8 trains to run a service like a W-train from Astoria to Whitehall Street with 10 minutes between trains, then that seems do-able.

b) The N-train could easily get trimmed down to a service of an express every 10 minutes and again using 8 trains, since it is only traveling between Manhattan & Brooklyn. The left-over N-trains that were assigned to the N-route in 2015, could be assigned to the W-train for 2016. Now suppose that was 4 to 6 trains.

The Q-train could easily get trimmed down to a service of an express every 8 or 10 minutes, using maybe 10 - 12 trains, since again it is only traveling between Manhattan and Brooklyn. The left-over Q-trains that were assigned to the Q-route in 2015 could be assigned to the W-train for 2016. Now suppose that was 4 or 5 trains.

c) Several goals could be accomplished - a) the switching mess of the N, Q & R trains would be eliminated on the Broadway line; b) there would be a consistent local W-train with the frequencies needed for Astoria; c) there would a consistent speedy express run for the N & Q trains in Manhattan and the frequencies for the Second Avenue line to serve as an alternative to Lexington Avenue; and d) the creation of overall much smoother operation for the Broadway line.

(Of course, I concede that I'm not that well versed in creating train schedules, or figuring out the precise requirements for train sets for a given line, etc. Others are better at that. Of course, the MTA is free to decide to do what ever it is they are going to do.)

Just a few thoughts.
Mike


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