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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:05:00 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 1 14:16:38 2009. I will, because it makes for a good lie. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 1 22:05:05 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 21:48:55 2009. Yup..and you are an envious little man bitch,wishing you could have done a quarter of the things I've managed to accomplish..You are less than a man..a johnny come lately,that only wishes he could have a job working for SOME transportation company,doing what REAL WORKERS DO..instead of letting his wife take care of him like some "kept man".. Your life is next to worthless..simply because you hate on EVERYONE here..simply due to you being a "scumbag carpetbagger"..and missing out on what most of us TRUE NEW YORKERS ALREADY LIVED THROUGH... You are envious of my skill..the fact that I AM A COACH OPERATOR..I HAVE A UP AND COMING CLOTHING LINE..I AM AN DESIGNER..ARTIST WORKING FOR SEVERAL COMPANIES..PROUD FATHER..HUSBAND..plus I am BETTER than YOU. This is WHY you hate me... I DON'T Take any crap from you.. dON'T LIKE IT...THERE is a way we can settle up... Like MEN... |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 1 22:05:57 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 21:51:09 2009. False, you have NO PROOF that he was in an unauthorized area.He has decent evidentiary grounds for that belief. We also have no proof that evil demons aren't making us believe that this is the real world, while the truth is that we're actually being manipulated by them. We have no proof that I am not God. Etc. Show me the law or SHUT THE FUCK UP. I believe that he's struck a nerve with you.... Nonetheless, it is certainly possible and indeed likely that the conduct leading up to that photo and/or after that constituted at least a misdemeanor under this state's law. |
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Re: Proof that it is a crime (was: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 1 22:06:08 2009, in response to Re: Proof that it is a crime (was: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?), posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 1 21:52:02 2009. However, I'm guessing that being shown 'guilty' of 3a would be enough to be charged criminally without 3b being shown. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jan 1 22:06:38 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 1 22:04:51 2009. Assuming he used such a uniform for such purposes, yes. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 1 22:07:46 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 1 22:04:51 2009. I would think so. Also wearing that uniform to bed would likely be ok. |
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Re: Proof that it is a crime (was: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?) |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 1 22:07:57 2009, in response to Re: Proof that it is a crime (was: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?), posted by BMTLines on Thu Jan 1 22:04:11 2009. If he were to wear an MTA uniform to a Halloween party it would probably not be an issueYep that's like the Mr. and Mrs. Claus example that I gave in a post. but in a motorman's cab he is causing others to act in reliance on the pretense since he is causing them to believe he has the right to be there. Indeed; that sort of reasoning is exactly why I think that it's likely that he violated the law. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 1 22:09:27 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:03:30 2009. Hence the word "seems"..I never said it was.. Dont start.. |
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Re: Proof that it is a crime (was: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?) |
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Posted by BMTLines on Thu Jan 1 22:09:33 2009, in response to Re: Proof that it is a crime (was: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?), posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 1 22:06:08 2009. The two sections are united with "and". Generally when that is done both parts need to be proven.Meanwhile I am dusting off an old conductor's hat for a future photo shoot. I don't think anyone would complain though - it has the insignia of the Penn Central Railroad... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:10:35 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 1 21:12:50 2009. I think the point that some people are making is that it's not a crime to impersonate an MTA employee.I never made that point. All I said was that he may not have been impersonating an MTA employee. I never said that impersonating an MTA was not a crime. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:10:52 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 1 21:12:50 2009. I think the point that some people are making is that it's not a crime to impersonate an MTA employee.I never made that point. All I said was that he may not have been impersonating an MTA employee. I never said that impersonating an MTA employee was not a crime. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Jan 1 22:11:44 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 1 22:02:16 2009. Around the mid 90s, correct? I remember (kind of vividly) getting lucky and catching one at Franklin after school. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jan 1 22:12:32 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Jan 1 22:11:44 2009. The R110B was on the A until 1999 or so IIRC. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 1 22:12:33 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 1 22:02:16 2009. I saw it signed up as a C while running down 8 Av; I don't remember if it was in service or not. It was a short train, but hard to forget because it was one of the only times in that era when you saw the big navy C bullet. Other than that time, the only time in those days that I saw a similar bullet was one day on an R44 that I suppose got pressed into C service on the fly.Of course, nowadays the big C bullet is the usual...although even that might be changing soon, or so we believe. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:12:55 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 1 20:44:39 2009. There's a reason for you to die of an internet heart attack from making your asinine posts... |
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Re: Proof that it is a crime (was: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?) |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Jan 1 22:13:03 2009, in response to Re: Proof that it is a crime (was: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?), posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 1 22:07:57 2009. Indeed; that sort of reasoning is exactly why I think that it's likely that he violated the law.Right. His being in the cab legally is certainly improbable but it is nonetheless possible. If he obtained permission to sit at this non-operating position, there would be nothing wrong with his wearing his costume. This is the point I (and others) have been trying to make, but it's been misinterpreted as condoning his actions, or else legitimizing MTA employee impersonation. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 1 22:14:31 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 1 22:05:05 2009. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:14:40 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 1 14:17:59 2009. Thanks Al. I'm glad there's still at least ONE person here who can both read and comprehend. |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Jan 1 22:16:44 2009, in response to Re: wow, posted by Danny at 103rd street on Thu Jan 1 14:20:42 2009. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:17:17 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by TheHat on Thu Jan 1 17:41:57 2009. False. Every person has the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty. That was my point. Many people here condemned him without knowing ANY of the facts. Let there be proff brought that he committed crimes/violations in the taking of that photo, and then you can condemn him all you want, because he will surely deserve it.Of course, if this photo was taken BEFORE the rollsign incident, then there is the chance that he has already seen the error in his ways, and has already decided not to pursue this course of action any longer. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Jan 1 22:19:29 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:17:17 2009. nope |
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Re: Proof that it is a crime (was: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 1 22:25:23 2009, in response to Re: Proof that it is a crime (was: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?), posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 1 21:52:02 2009. ah, thank you for making that distinction clear |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:26:03 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by MJF on Thu Jan 1 16:43:07 2009. Dressing up as a TA employee, in a cab without authorization?I never said that's what happened. And you don't know that's what happened. So wtf are you talking about? |
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Re: Proof that it is a crime (was: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?) |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 1 22:26:37 2009, in response to Re: Proof that it is a crime (was: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?), posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 1 22:06:08 2009. For the information/indictment, they should really have at least probable cause on both 3a and 3b, otherwise it should be dismissed.Practically speaking though, with a little police work, one feels that they would probably have more than enough to go after someone who was stupid enough to try that sort of thing and to take photos while he's at it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:26:49 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by MJF on Thu Jan 1 16:46:06 2009. which I'M SURE HE'S NOTNo you're not. Get back to me when you are. |
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Re: Proof that it is a crime (was: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 1 22:28:07 2009, in response to Re: Proof that it is a crime (was: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?), posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 1 22:26:37 2009. We shall soon find out. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:30:46 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Lord Vader on Thu Jan 1 17:22:36 2009. ??????How do you know this was taken in 2009, or any time recent? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:32:43 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 1 22:02:16 2009. Not at the time Trevor claimed it did. They were already withdrawn from service at this point. |
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Re: Proof that it is a crime (was: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?) |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 1 22:35:24 2009, in response to Re: Proof that it is a crime (was: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?), posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Jan 1 22:13:03 2009. I understand your point and I agree with your putting the probability of the proverbial best of his possible worlds at about "certainly improbable" too.Some of the reasons for the quite low probability have to do with the combination of the knock-off uniform AND the apparent trespass. I have to make one further observation, though, as respects one part of your point, If he obtained permission to sit at this non-operating position, there would be nothing wrong with his wearing his costume. It seems to me that he would have to affirmatively declare to person granting permission (an unlikely event in itself) that his uniform wasn't genuine, and he's doing this for a shot. When you multiply those two small fractions together....... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:36:52 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jan 1 18:33:33 2009. Would you cut it out? You have no proff about what his intentions were on that night. He was caught with them, and he certainly seems guilty of being part of the act, but you don't know what part he played, nor what his intentions were. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 1 22:40:52 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:17:17 2009. Every person has the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty.That's the presumption of the law; who it places the burden of legal proof on to show what happened. For assorted reasons, as a matter of legal procedure, we say that the prosecution has the burden of proof beyond reasonable doubt. It's not a presumption that one is entitled to respect in the ordinary sense, however. Jack the Ripper who is caught actively gutting a woman's body is presumed innocent by the law until proven guilty in a court of law or until he lawfully concedes the same. He is not presumed innocent by anyone who is cognitively functional. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 1 22:43:07 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:12:55 2009. you are STILL HERE?I thought at least you would have the self respect to crawl away with your tail between your legs,clearly stating that YOU ARE AN ASS OF THE FIRST DEGREE..KNOWING JACK SHIT about whats going on in this thread,or any other therein... better go smoke your stoggie..and think about your problems..or seek professional help. Or better yet...just die. |
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Posted by rr4567 on Thu Jan 1 22:45:47 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 1 22:14:31 2009. SLAM-DUNKis right! Damn! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:46:57 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by MJF on Thu Jan 1 20:51:45 2009. False, I did not defend his actions. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:51:03 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 1 20:39:44 2009. False. I have seen at least one of the 6 railfans recently in trouble for the two major incidents (train moving and rollsign stealing) being let into a non-public area of the system by someone who I assume is an employee or retiree. So don't tell me that these kids don't still have friends in the system. It seems highly likely that they do still have a friend or friends who work or have access to non-public parts of the subway system.Of course, the employee may not have actually has the "authority" to allow him into that area, but that doesn't really matter. The employee is part of NYCT, and thus it is his fault if he lets someone like Steven into a cab or some similar place. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:51:28 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 1 22:43:07 2009. your death is coming... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 1 22:53:24 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:26:03 2009. According to our "rules" no unauthorized persons are allowed in a cab period if an employee allows such person in the cab said employee is violating the rules as well according to our rule book... |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jan 1 22:57:10 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by rr4567 on Thu Jan 1 18:48:22 2009. Sell it on eBay. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jan 1 22:58:03 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 22:36:52 2009. You're defending McCrappers? You sank faster than the Titanic. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 1 23:03:31 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 21:56:03 2009. damn..you ARE a idiot...The 110b DID run in C service at least making TWO TRIPS..then returning to 207th yard. Must be the carpetbagger syndrome..... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 23:04:35 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 1 21:30:27 2009. no, every MTA employee did not say he was. learn to read you spawn of the devil! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 23:05:22 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 1 21:38:13 2009. NO, YOU SHUT THE F*CK UP |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Thu Jan 1 23:06:57 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by rr4567 on Thu Jan 1 18:49:05 2009. Huh? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 23:07:00 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 1 22:05:05 2009. LOL, no. Let me repeat myself, since it seems you don't understand."you're a fucking fucker who has shit for brains and a flower for a dick. you're a little man who couldn't cut it being a bus driver so they forced you to resign in shame and now you draw pictures for children for pennies. you're a disgrace to your friends and family. and you'll probably die of a heart attack while composing one of your stupid posts here. And I'd laugh at that." |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 23:08:02 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 1 21:49:50 2009. False, you have not shown me to be wrong, since I never claimed anything contrary to what you showed. Reading comprehension FTW. |
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Is it me, or is the Reef about to get a new "coral" . . . ? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 1 23:08:09 2009, in response to Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by R160 Maniac on Tue Dec 30 21:18:15 2008. Definitely not me. R33F |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 23:09:15 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by MJF on Thu Jan 1 21:58:18 2009. Until someone can prove otherwise, the photo stands on it's face value.False, he is innocent until proven guilty of a crime. You're getting like Ron. Next time bring some evidence to the table to support your claims. False, I made no claims. You are the one making claims. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 23:10:33 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jan 1 22:05:57 2009. Nonetheless, it is certainly possibleI never said otherwise. I only said that it is not known for sure one way or the other, so judgment should be reserved until the facts are known. Please man, READ... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 1 23:11:22 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 1 22:09:27 2009. Um, no, it doesn't "seem" that way either. My point stands. And don't you start condemning people before you know all the facts. |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Thu Jan 1 23:13:54 2009, in response to Re: Is it me, or is Steven at it again?, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jan 1 22:53:24 2009. I wonder what official protocol exists for allowing exemptions to this rule. I saw Kawasaki/Alstom employees ride in the R160A cab during its burn testing on the (A). |
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