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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 21:03:14 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 20:14:38 2011. Fine, it was in "quotes". That means fill in a blank. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 21:03:51 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 20:48:23 2011. Of course they were dumped near the beach along Ocean Parkway, it's in the middle of no where for miles and miles. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 21:07:05 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 20:43:14 2011. That's not true, there are VAST differences between the north and south shores, as well as the middle of the island. There's no one "description" of Long Island. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 21:08:29 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 21:02:17 2011. Yes, but saying you don't like New Jersey is like saying you don't like the United States.? it's a place with different cultures, different accents, different foods LIKE LONG ISLAND!!!!! beaches, farms Long Island has that too. mountains, I can't say that NJ is known for it's vast mountain ranges. Sure, there are some hilly areas, especially toward the Delaware River, but NJ is the "Garden State" for the most part. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 21:21:15 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 21:08:29 2011. NJ is more multicultural than most of LI though isn't it? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 21:21:39 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 21:08:29 2011. All they need to do is pull aerials into most of the North Shore of Long Island in Nassau and Western Suffolk, and there's plenty of hilly areas. And some of the most beautiful areas too. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 21:22:10 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 21:07:05 2011. True, but it's not as vast as the differences throughout New Jersey. And it's all still New York City influenced, while New Jersey (depending on the area) is influence by New York City, Philadelphia, the Lehigh Valley, the Poconos (forgot to mention that earlier), and Delaware. And like I said before, a Waldbaums in Valley Stream carries the exact same items as a Waldbaums in Riverhead, a Waldbaums in Deer Park, a Waldbaum's in Rocky Point, etc. A Shop Rite in Newton carries very different products than a Shop Rite in Flemington which carries different products than a Shop Rite in Manahawkin. And my example of bringing up newspapers...from Queens to Montauk, the daily papers are all the same...Newsday, The NY Daily News, The NY Post, and The New York Times...that's it...nothing else...in New Jersey, there are about 15 daily newspapers IN ADDITION to the New York City papers, the Philadelphia papers, the Lehigh Valley papers, and the Orange County, New York paper. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 21:23:00 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 21:21:15 2011. ?? |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 21:24:09 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 21:08:29 2011. it's a place with different cultures, different accents, different foodsLIKE LONG ISLAND!!!!! I was referring to the natives, not the immigrants... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 21:24:53 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 21:22:10 2011. Long Island is a 120 mile strip of land. New Jersey is an entire state. At least stay in the NY Metro area of New Jersey if you are going to attempt to compare the two if "supermarkets" and newspapers is a way to rate someplace.... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 21:25:19 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 21:21:15 2011. Well, yeah, I guess it could be "more multicultural" since you're comparing an entire state vs. either 2 or 4 counties. If you want be get technical and include Queens and Brooklyn in the definition of "Long Island" then of course we all know how multicultural those places are. If we just look at Nassau and Suffolk, they are now quite multicultural. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 21:27:57 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 21:08:29 2011. I can't say that NJ is known for it's vast mountain ranges.Sure, compared to Vermont or Colorado, New Jersey's "ranges" pale in comparison, but compared to Long Island, parts of New Jersey are like the freakin' Rocky Mountains, for crying out loud! |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 21:28:10 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 21:23:00 2011. He responded to a post about different cultures by saying "like LI" so I was asking if they were the same or if one were more diverse. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 21:32:07 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 21:25:19 2011. I should have been more specific when I referred to the "culture" of these areas...I wasn't referring to different nationalities or foreign cuisine, I was referring to the local (native) foods, music, and media (newspapers, radio, etc.). South Jersey is completely different than North Jersey, even though the distance apart is similar to the distance from Valley Stream to Montauk... |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 21:36:19 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 21:24:53 2011. I agree, but Luch AAA did not specify any particular area, he just said "LI blows Jersey away", so he lumped all of NJ into one category...that's what irked me. If he would have said "LI blows northern New Jersey away", or something to that effect, it would have made more sense... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 21:45:40 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 21:32:07 2011. Long Island in Valley Stream is quite different that Long Island in Montauk. And it's very different from Nisseqogue to Oyster Bay to Greenport too. I can't even compare two many areas to eachother. Even Nassau County which is fairly small in the scheme of things is VERY different if you compare the north shore to the south shore to the middle. And even different south shore areas are very different than eachother, as are different mid sections to eachother and different north shore sections to eachother. The same with Suffolk.Even today where I have been to most stretches of Long Island I find an area I have never been to before and seems so different. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 21:57:38 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 21:45:40 2011. Let's look at it this way...you can go just 60 miles west or south of Manhattan into New Jersey and people call sub sandwiches "hoagies", they like the Phillies and Eagles, and they read the Philadelphia newspapers and listen to Philadelphia radio stations. Go the same distance east of Manhattan, and it's basically the same as Manhattan. "Hero" sandwiches, the Mets , NYC newspapers, and some NYC radio stations (although ( admit that WALK-FM and WBLI dominate). |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 22:00:43 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 21:57:38 2011. Don't forget the fact that NJ has Comcast and Cablevision while LI is just Cablevision. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 22:04:22 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 22:00:43 2011. Plus, NJ has Time Warner in parts of Bergen County snd a company called Service Electric in western New Jersey... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 22:08:43 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 22:04:22 2011. My friend in Sussex has Service Electric too. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:10:29 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 21:57:38 2011. Well of course! They are getting closer to Philly, another city once they get there. What the heck do you expect. It would be crazy if the areas near to Philly would be more like NY than Philly.And trust me, once you get 60 miles out on LI, they aren't listening to NYC radio stations either, as we don't even get many of them. We have our own radio stations like WBAB 102.3, WRCN 103.9, etc. Before I had satellite radio I listened to our own radio stations, or CONNECTICUT rock stations like 99.1. And as for NYC Newspapers, why the HELL should New Jersey people that live near Philly not read Philly newspapers. You are comparing apples and oranges here, as what other city other than NYC is near "Montauk" at the dead end of an island? And you don't think it would be odd that New Jersey people near PHILLY wouldn't be routing for the Philly teams? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:11:45 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 22:04:22 2011. Queens and Brooklyn "are" Long Island, and there's Time Warner. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:12:18 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 22:08:43 2011. Are you going to say that Long Island has Con Edison now instead of LIPA? :) |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 22:13:31 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 22:08:43 2011. Yup... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:14:26 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 22:13:31 2011. How much of "Manhattan" does LIPA serve? |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 22:15:08 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:11:45 2011. Didn't parts of Queens also have a cable company called "Quics" at one time? Unless they were bought out eventually... |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 22:16:00 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:14:26 2011. None, but I believe LIPA serves all of the Rockaways in Queens, however... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 22:16:54 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 22:15:08 2011. Yeah. QUICS disappeared a long long time ago. Manhattan and parts of other boroughs also had Paragon Cable. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:17:28 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 22:15:08 2011. Long Island had a bunch of different cable systems before Cablevision bought them all out. I used to have "Brookhaven Cable" when I first moved here. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:18:40 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 22:16:00 2011. Okay then, not so much like "Manhattan" then. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:19:07 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 22:16:54 2011. Wow, that's a name I didn't hear in a while. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 22:22:56 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:18:40 2011. I used Manhattan as a starting point becuase I was pointing out stuff that was easily apparent and/or visible to the average person when traveling from Manhattan to the various places mentioned. The average person doesn't come in contact with the power companies, unless they happen to see a truck going by... |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 22:23:28 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:18:40 2011. The fact that they have different electric companies are among the least of ways that Sussex and Nassau are not like Manhattan. You're somewhat sensitive about LI. :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 24 22:24:31 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 23 21:01:25 2011. Places with median household income in excess of $200,000:Atherton, California 7,210 Brookville, New York 2,146 Chevy Chase Village, Maryland 2,051 Fairbanks Ranch, California 1,877 Fisher Island, Florida 339 Golf, Florida 239 Hewlett Bay Park, New York 485 Hidden Hills, California 1,875 Hunting Valley, Ohio 737 Huntleigh, Missouri 305 Jupiter Island, Florida 621 Kenilworth, Illinois 2,494 Laurel Hollow, New York 2,046 Mockingbird Valley, Kentucky 194 Mound, Louisiana 22 Orchid, Florida 138 Oyster Bay Cove, New York 2,184 Rancho Santa Fe, California 3,271 Rex, North Carolina 15 Rolling Hills, California 1,871 Sands Point, New York 2,761 Westover Hills, Texas 649 All of the ones that are suburbs of New York are in Nassau County. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 22:26:26 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 24 22:24:31 2011. Obviously a tiny fraction of the island. I'm not saying that it doesn't have some super nice places, just that most of it is meh. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:27:08 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 22:22:56 2011. Obviously. And New Jersey is stretched between two totally different cities. long Island is not. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:27:57 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 22:23:28 2011. You can't think that I was serious!? And I didn't bring up "power companies", but since they did, the bullets will be returned! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:30:13 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 22:26:26 2011. False. Again, you have NO idea what you are talking about. There are probably equal amount of SUPER nice places, as there are "meh" (meaning average areas). Just that you say "most of" means you have no idea what you are talking about, and are comparing the whole island to the few places you happened to be. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 22:31:04 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:27:57 2011. I think that you're a LI homer. :)I'm not an LA homer, because LA has too many problems, but it is getting better. We did have a shooting the other night. Three shot, one killed. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:32:37 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Apr 24 22:24:31 2011. And that doesn't even include areas like the Hamptons and rich areas on the North Fork too, where the homes are summer homes of rich Manhattan people, who's income levels are probably counted in Manhattan as opposed to Long Island Communities where they are only part time residents. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:36:59 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 22:31:04 2011. LA has some exception and absolutely STUNNING areas. But so does Long Island.I am serious, go to Bing aerial birds eye, or Google aerials, and just comb Long Island on the North shore ALL through Nassau, and through Western Suffolk, and many parts of the middle too. And you don't even have to bother going to the east end of either fork. The North Shore is unbelievable of Nassau and Suffolk. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 22:37:12 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:27:08 2011. And that's why I thought it was foolish for Luch to compare LI to the whole state of New Jersey... |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 22:38:00 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:30:13 2011. It's weird that I grew partly up in NJ, yet never went to LI until I was 30 years old. We did have relatives on LI, but that might have been Queens. I can't say for sure, but it was by JFK. That was the closest I ever made it. Then when I visited as an adult it wasn't what I was expecting. Now it could be that I only ever saw a fraction of LI, but what I saw on 3 different week long trips wasn't impressive. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 22:39:32 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:36:59 2011. I didn't get anywhere near the beach or ocean when I visited. Maybe that was the issue. I was always inland. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:46:11 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 22:39:32 2011. You don't even have to go near the beach. In fact, I don't think the South Shore of Long Island is the best part of the island. The North Shore is the exceptional areas. There are some exceptional areas south too (like the east end in the Hamptons), and random areas in Nassau and Suffolk (Hewlett Bay Park, as well as others), but the North Shore of Nassau lives up to it's "Gold Coast" reputation, and you don't have to go near the water. Old Westbury and Brookville are not waterfront areas either, and are in the middle of the island. The middle has plenty of exceptionally nice areas too no where near the shore, like Half Hollow Hills, and I could go on and on.Seriously, just take an aerial tour close in all through Nassau on the North Shore, and much of western Suffolk too (eastern suffolk on the north sure is nice too, but it's much less built up so hard to compare to anything, it's kind of rural yet. You have some pockets of "meh" areas on the north shore in Eastern Suffolk too (like Rocky Point, Sound Beach, and some other little pockets), but for the most part, in my opinion, the North Shore is beautiful. The South Shore is much more spotty to find the great spots, as much of the South Shore was developed as summer bungalows in Western Suffolk, but there's still great pockets of nice exceptional areas there too if you know where to look. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:48:21 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 22:38:00 2011. You obviously didn't know where to go. I am not saying there are plenty of "meh" areas on Long Island, but they don't make up the majority as you insist. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:49:11 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 22:38:00 2011. You obviously didn't know where to go. I am not saying there aren't plenty of "meh" areas on Long Island, but they don't make up the majority as you insist. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 22:52:26 2011, in response to Typo correction Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:49:11 2011. There aren't really specific places that I should go are there? I just wanted to get a feel for the place so I drove around. I wasn't trying to find the best areas, just seeing what's there. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:58:02 2011, in response to Re: Typo correction Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 22:52:26 2011. You can't really miss the nice areas if you go along Nassau's north shore, and much of Suffolk's too. The South Shore you have to know more where to go.If you just drive it's center spine, you won't find it (with few exceptions). |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:59:24 2011, in response to Re: Typo correction Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 22:58:02 2011. When I say "North SHORE", I don't just mean at the coast, I mean the northern part of the island. When we say "north" or "south" shore, we don't necessarily mean "on the water". |
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