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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 23 14:29:35 2011, in response to Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jun 24 20:12:39 2009. 18 year-old found shot dead |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 14:36:42 2011, in response to One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 23 14:29:35 2011. Geez, not too far from the homestead. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 23 15:13:05 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 14:36:42 2011. I have a feeling that it's going to be a summer to simmer on Long Island. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Apr 23 16:36:21 2011, in response to One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 23 14:29:35 2011. YAWN! It's getting to the point when it would be big news if nobody got shot one day in Brentwood or Wyandanch... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 23 16:39:14 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Apr 23 16:36:21 2011. While Wyandanch has a rep, I must say, I hardly ever hear of shootings or stabbings there. Seems like Brentwood and Central Islip dominate. However, I predict that there will be a shooting or stabbing at the new Sonic in N. Babylon. There will be. |
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Posted by JayMan on Sat Apr 23 17:11:32 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 23 16:39:14 2011. Haha Luch is this part of your campaign to show that as black and brown people have taken over Brentwood and Central Islip (which is quite a change from what I remember long ago), the crime rate has shot up? |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 17:15:24 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by JayMan on Sat Apr 23 17:11:32 2011. Yes, that has been his objective for several years. He says that LI used to be a place to go to escape the city and now city problems have followed them there. |
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Posted by JayMan on Sat Apr 23 17:17:23 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 17:15:24 2011. So I seen, looking at the age of the thread (23 pages was a clue). But if so, unfortunately, he is correct. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 23 20:55:03 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 23 16:39:14 2011. Central Islip was a severely bad neighborhood, one of the worst on the Island. It's gotten better over the years, but still is not a great place. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 23 20:56:01 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 17:15:24 2011. Brentwood and Central Islip have been crappy neighborhoods since the 70's. CI probably even longer than that. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 20:58:59 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 23 20:56:01 2011. Dude you don't have to tell me about crappy LI neighborhoods. I've been everywhere on LI, remember? Commack, Huntington, Islip, Nassau, etc. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 23 21:01:00 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 23 20:56:01 2011. I lived in Central Islip for from 82-84. T'wasn't that horrific. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 23 21:01:25 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 20:58:59 2011. What's wrong with Nassau? Or Commack? Some of the best neighborhoods in the country (within the top 10) are in NASSAU. Islip is also not bad. Central Islip is. And Commack? |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 21:05:31 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 23 21:01:25 2011. Well you know. LI has a national reputation as a great suburb and it doesn't really live up to it. Where I live in Carson is nicer than 80% of LI and it's not nice by LA standards. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 23 21:09:39 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 21:05:31 2011. Where I live in Carson is nicer than 80% of LI and it's not nice by LA standards.You really have NO idea what Long Island looks like or is like. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 21:22:15 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 23 21:09:39 2011. Our buses run until 2am M-F and until midnight on the weekends and we have Sunday service. Ok. I'm done embarrassing you with our riches. LI is good to if you can't afford NJ. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Apr 23 21:36:25 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 23 16:39:14 2011. How about Roosevelt? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 23 21:44:46 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Apr 23 21:36:25 2011. Terrible neighborhood. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 23 21:50:21 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 21:22:15 2011. YOu are complaining about Long Island because of the bus service. Most people don't want the bus anyway, so..... |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 22:03:42 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 23 21:50:21 2011. Dude, I'm just messing with you. You can't compare an entire area like LI to a small city like Carson! :)I like LI ok, but it wasn't as nice as I was expecting. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Apr 23 22:07:23 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Apr 23 21:44:46 2011. I knew that, I was just curious about any crime statistics. I used to ride the N-40 and/or N-41 bus years ago between Freeport and Hempstead via Roosevelt on several occasions. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 23 22:47:01 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 22:03:42 2011. What were you expecting? |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 22:49:01 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 23 22:47:01 2011. It's not as upscale as I was expecting and there aren't many newer looking neighborhoods. It's like traveling back to the 60's and 70's. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 23 22:49:37 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 22:49:01 2011. Why were you looking for "upscale", whatever that means nowadays . . . ? |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 23:05:21 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Apr 23 22:49:37 2011. I wouldn't say that I looked for it as I'm sure that it's to be found. I was just expecting to see more of it because that is LI's reputation. I wasn't expecting Beverly Hills, but I was expecting at least Orange County, CA. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 00:18:54 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Apr 23 21:36:25 2011. How about Roosevelt?Bad place. Police installed a system that detects gunshots which allows them to respond faster to shootings. It's used in Roosevelt and they want to expand it to Hempstead and Uniondale. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 00:22:56 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 21:22:15 2011. ? LI blows Jersey away.Long Island is a beautiful place. I worry about it's future. Plus you live in LA County while Long Island Counties of Nassau and Suffolk are quite a distance from NYC. I predict a shooting or stabbing or some crazy headline grabbing story at the new Sonic on N. Babylon. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 00:33:42 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by JayMan on Sat Apr 23 17:17:23 2011. But if so, unfortunately, he is correctLOL. Again. I'm correct about politically correct police descriptions and I'm right about the urbanization of America's suburbs? We'll have to play AWAR(Arguing With A Righty) later. Meanwhile, read this amazing article about the "Historic Shift" in NYC's black and white populations. Blacks leave NYC, More Whites |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 00:41:07 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 00:18:54 2011. I heard that those don't work because they can't distinguish fireworks from gunshots. And as I've posted before, I can't either. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 00:44:54 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 00:22:56 2011. I think that some of the newer developments west on I-80 or I-78 (if I have the right freeways) are nicer than the large majority of LI. The neighborhoods look like where Tony Soprano lived. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 00:50:58 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 00:33:42 2011. The same shift is happening in LA, although on a much smaller scale given the relatively small size of LA's black population. Whites left the city and moved to the suburbs and then when blacks and Mexicans did the same, whites moved back to the city. Now the more urban parts of LA are rapidly gentrifying while the suburbs and the Valley are deteriorating. I've posted before that this is the future for American cities and that our cities will follow the European model where the inner city is the more desirable and whiter area while the suburbs become a place for poor people and minorities. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 00:55:13 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 00:44:54 2011. think that some of the newer developments west on I-80 or I-78 (if I have the right freeways) are nicer than the large majority of LI. The neighborhoods look like where Tony Soprano lived.No. Long Island is awesome. So is Queens. As far as where Soprano lived, there are areas like that all over the northeast. Long Island has them for sure. I love Long Island. I think you'd like it if you lived in a decent town and your kids went to a good school. And most of the schools out there are good. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 01:02:35 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 00:50:58 2011. This relates directly to the thread just a few days ago where I accurately pointed out that the only thing that can make gentrification(liberal whites) possible is for blacks to leave because white liberals won't live around them for the most part.I know that LA's burbs are dying. San Bernardino. Ugh. You are probably right about the inner-cities becoming the most desirable. It's largely because middle class whites don't want kids while minorities, immigrants, and the upper class reproduce. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 01:19:33 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 01:02:35 2011. You are probably right about the inner-cities becoming the most desirable. It's largely because middle class whites don't want kids while minorities, immigrants, and the upper class reproduce.Forgot to add, this is why whites are buying 1BR's in LIC and Williamsburg while minorities are going to the burbs. When you have kids you tend to want a home instead of an apartment. When you don't have kids, a 1BR in LIC is ideal. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 01:32:14 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 01:02:35 2011. I pretty much agree although I moved to LA 20 years ago and San Bernardino wasn't good even then. I agree that in general whites are having fewer kids and having kids later which is more conducive to an urban lifestyle. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 01:54:56 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 01:32:14 2011. Although I generally label white liberals as being anti-God, anti-family types who want nothing more in life than a high rise 1BR, Crunch membership, and lots of sex partners, some do have kids. And when they do have a kid, and realize that the projects like Marcy and Queensbridge are still there, they end up moving if they can't avoid the local public schools.That's how it works. |
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Posted by TonyG on Sun Apr 24 02:01:13 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 01:19:33 2011. I'd tend to agree. As I don't have kids, I don't need a yard or an extra BR. If (and hopefully when) I do have kids, I'd prefer to live in a neighborhood where I could have a basketball hoop in the driveway, an extra bedroom or two, and a yard. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 07:34:28 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 22:49:01 2011. Again, that's totally false. It's just where you happen to go. There's plenty of upscale (very upscale) neighborhoods, there's plenty of newer neighborhoods, and it doesn't all look like the "60's". It doesn't all look like "Levittown" or Uniondale. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 07:39:49 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sat Apr 23 23:05:21 2011. Again, you aren't going to find that in many of the spots you may have been, but there are PLENTY of upscale neighborhoods on Long Island, if you know where they are. And they probably equal the amount of "East Meadow" type of suburban sprawl neighborhoods.http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qtc2km8w3b40&lvl=18.468670269909566&dir=6.892621122708423&sty=b&where1=Brookville%2C%20NY&q=brookville%2C%20ny&FORM=LMLTCC |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 07:42:24 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 00:44:54 2011. You truly have NO idea what you are talking about. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 07:44:19 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by TonyG on Sun Apr 24 02:01:13 2011. I'd prefer to live in a neighborhood where I could have a basketball hoop in the drivewaySo long as you don't put it out at the curb, lol.... |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 08:33:26 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 07:39:49 2011. That's not typical of LI and like you said, you have to know where to look. But I didn't mean "upscale" like that. When I said more upscale, I meant nicer than what I saw. LI doesn't have cities like Irvine where the whole city is modern and nice. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun Apr 24 08:34:21 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 07:44:19 2011. LOL, lesson of the day - ZONING!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by JayMan on Sun Apr 24 11:44:48 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 00:33:42 2011. I'm correct about politically correct police descriptions and I'm right about the urbanization of America's suburbs?You have your moments. What I found shocking about that map is the white colonization of the South Bronx. Of course there they are still a tiny minority, but a change from virtually absent to a trace presence can seem like a huge difference. The explanation is obvious (and it's going to sound awfully familiar to you): whites don't like to live in neighborhoods with lots of black and brown people. This is especially true if they have children. They go to where the blacks aren't. I wouldn't be surprised if the black and brown colonization of Brentwood, Wyandanch or Central Islip is driving away whites. I assume that these areas were originally colonized by middle-class blacks and Latinos. I would have expected to see less of these problems among these groups. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 20:09:16 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 08:33:26 2011. That is "typical" of Long Island, again, depending on where you go. You obviously only saw the "Levittown" type places. And we don't have "cities" on Long Island, only Glen Cove and Long Beach are "cities". |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Apr 24 20:14:38 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 20:09:16 2011. I didn't go to Levittown or see any places like that. I saw 60's and 70's developments, not 40's and early 50's. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 20:43:14 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 00:22:56 2011. LI blows Jersey away.Long Island is a beautiful place. I worry about it's future. Huh? Long Island is basically just an extension of New York City.... culture wise...all the way out to Montauk and Orient, you get the same newspapers, the same food in the stores, the same everything...New Jersey is divided into 6 distinct areas for those type of things....1) Northeast NJ (Hudson, Essex, Bergen, and parts of Passaic County), which is basically a 6th borough of New York City, but with The Star Ledger, The Bergen Record, and great hot dogs...2) Extreme North New Jersey (the rest of Passaic County and all of Sussex County), which has more in common with Orange County, New York than it does with the rest of New Jersey...3) North Central New Jersey (Union, Middlesex, Somerset, and Morris Counties), which is sort of boring...they are too far from NYC and too far from Philly to be influenced by either... 4) The Jersey Shore (Monmouth, Ocean, Atlantic, and Cape May counties) speaks for itself... 5) Western New Jersey (Warren, Hunterdon, and Mercer counties), which is heavily influenced by Pennsylvania, whether it be the Lehigh Valley or Bucks County...and 6) South Jersey (Burlington, Camden, Gloucester, Salem, and Cumberland counties), heavily influenced by Philadelphia and northern Delaware.... In the food stores in those different areas, you can find different foods, sodas, chips, etc. from one section to the next...Nassau and Suffolk? A Waldbaums in Riverhead carries the exact same items as a Waldbaums in Valley Stream... And scenery? New Jersey has rolling hills and farms spread out all over the state, with the exception of northeast NJ. Long Island is 90% flat, and the farms are all out on the extreme east end... Nassau and Suffolk is basically all the same from end to end... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 20:48:23 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Apr 24 20:09:16 2011. They were talking about LI geography last night regarding the serial killer, explaining why the bodies are dumped near the beaches. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 20:52:10 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 20:43:14 2011. I just don't like NJ and think LI is a great place.Long Island has better pizza too, but you already knew that. As far as "culture wise" I find Manhattan to be totally different than the rest of America. Culture wise, Rego Park Queens at Massapequa Park are different worlds. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Apr 24 21:02:17 2011, in response to Re: One Dead In Brentwood Shooting, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Apr 24 20:52:10 2011. Yes, but saying you don't like New Jersey is like saying you don't like the United States... it's a place with different cultures, different accents, different foods, different scenery, mountains, beaches, farms, forests, cities, etc... Nassau and Suffolk is basically the same all the way out to Riverhead (about 75 miles)...they should call everything east of Riverhead "Peconic County" since it looks different out there, even though the stores sell the same stuff as closer in.I'll give in on the NYC cuture thing (even though it reaches the Hamptons in the summer), but the rest of it is all the same... |
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