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Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line |
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Posted by hank eisenstein on Tue Oct 25 06:56:35 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 25 05:15:56 2011. 'Respect' has nothing to do with it. 'Respect' isn't protected by law. If a parade of topless women wanted to march down every street in Brooklyn, they could not be legally stopped. Try to keep up with reality. |
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Posted by Terrapin station on Tue Oct 25 07:01:43 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by hank eisenstein on Tue Oct 25 06:56:35 2011. Incorrect. Respect has everything to do with this subthread. Reread it AGAIN. |
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Posted by hank eisenstein on Tue Oct 25 07:11:18 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by Terrapin station on Tue Oct 25 07:01:43 2011. You should try reading it. Someone suggested doing something YOU feel would be disrespectful; disrespectful or not, it's NOT illegal. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Oct 25 07:37:30 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by Terrapin station on Tue Oct 25 07:01:43 2011. The right to be respected is not guaranteed by either the United States or New York State constitutions. That being said, while it may be LEGAL it does not mean it is PROPER. I might not agree with something but I am going to be respectful about it |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Oct 25 07:49:37 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by BusMgr on Sun Oct 23 14:52:45 2011. Actually, it was state law in most of the Jim Crow-era South that blacks were required to ride in the back of the bus. Ditto "colored-only" railroad cars on trains in the South. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 25 08:45:42 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by hank eisenstein on Tue Oct 25 07:11:18 2011. Like he knows what the word "Respect" means what a effing hypocrite... |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:11:14 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Oct 24 11:31:14 2011. Are you sure about that? I thought that only applied in parks. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:12:30 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Oct 19 19:24:18 2011. You don't think they would stare at any man without his head covered? |
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Re: ARTICLE: B110 Riders Must Demand Changes for Themselves |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:24:37 2011, in response to ARTICLE: B110 Riders Must Demand Changes for Themselves, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Oct 24 17:33:30 2011. All that article points out is how brainwashed Orthodox women really are if the author's wife did not even feel comfortable sitting next to her own husband in their own private family car. How sad. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:32:01 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Oct 24 01:52:56 2011. That it is a public bus and if they want to have their own rules, they should have a subscription bus service. But that's not what you want to hear so it goes in one ear and out the other. All you know is that Orthodox Jews must stick up for one another because any outsider as you see it who does not agree is the enemy and that includes non Orthodox Jews. Perhaps enemy is too strong a word, but you get my drift. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:34:20 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 24 00:59:03 2011. All you ever say is that someone is wrong. If that is the case, you need to explain yourself. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:37:13 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 23 16:21:40 2011. So why is their so much opposition to the practice if in fact no one does it as you claim? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:38:43 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 24 00:56:35 2011. Always wrong except for the one time I mistakenly stuck up for you. Right? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:40:10 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Oct 22 04:18:55 2011. That's been around long before the Internet. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:43:46 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 24 01:01:55 2011. That's never stopped you from posting. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:48:02 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Oct 19 11:17:30 2011. There was another instance when a second reporter from the Post I believe who was instructed by the driver to sit in the back. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 25 11:50:03 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:37:13 2011. So why is their so much opposition to the practice if in fact no one does it as you claim?He didn't say no one does it. A very, very small number of people do it, and the press makes a big issue of it. It's a kabbalistic tradition that has its roots in the ninth century C.E./A.D. and was probably a pagan custom that found its way into Judaism. As a result, most Torah-observant Jews avoid the practice. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:51:34 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by JAzumah on Wed Oct 19 11:55:57 2011. An Orthodox Jew would never complain and anyone else who tried would be afraid of the repercussions like a thousand people showing up at his house. I remember when I was in Jerusalem, a storekeeper was five minutes late in closing his store when shabbos began and about ten Orthodox Jews started pummeling him with rocks. This is what you are dealing with. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:54:04 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by hank eisenstein on Wed Oct 19 22:51:03 2011. Also he is wrong because gays can march in the St Patricks Day Parade. They are only forbidden to march under their own banner which the Hybernians have every right to not allow. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 25 11:54:22 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 24 13:30:25 2011. Of course, I can not explain this anywhere nearly as well as an Orthodox rabbi can, so, as I usually do, I suggest you talk to an Orthodox rabbi if you have serious concerns that you would like to be addressed.Better yet, talk to an Orthodox rebbetzin. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:56:45 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 24 01:19:23 2011. No I am not a hypocrite. Sitting in the back of the bus denotes inferiority historically. Sitting on one side does not. There is nothing hypocritical about that. I was only suggesting a compromise to keep everyone happy. Anything wrong with that? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:59:08 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Oct 23 17:26:01 2011. Torturing is different than killing in a humane manner. I am not all happy about how chickens and other livestock are treated but that is a separate issue. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 12:05:22 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 24 01:21:20 2011. That's right go cry anti-Semitism when you obviously have no idea what the word even means. That's no better than a Black using the race card when he can't think of any other reason. You obviously have zero tolerance for anyone with an opinion different than your own. You need to learn some tolerance. Funny that Orthodox Judiaism does not preach that in their yeshivahs. Or do they and how do they do it? I'd be interested. Why don't you tell us since you know everything with your hundreds of comments stating "you're wrong." |
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Posted by LAG Driver on Tue Oct 25 12:05:26 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:40:10 2011. The rumor here is that the mofos who work in the TA have sex through a hole in the sheet since they spend most of their fucking lives trying to cover their asses |
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Posted by Terrapin station on Tue Oct 25 12:13:34 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Oct 25 07:37:30 2011. Bingo. |
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Posted by The Silence on Tue Oct 25 12:16:56 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:11:14 2011. anywhere you can go without a shirt, so can they. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 25 12:35:17 2011, in response to Re: Shaving heads, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 25 02:33:06 2011. That's odd, because most of the orthodox women I know DON'T do this.Me too. FWIW, I find the whole concept of the sheitl absurd, but even the women I know who wear them don't have shaved heads or crew cuts underneath. |
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Posted by davidy on Tue Oct 25 12:50:54 2011, in response to Re: Shaving heads, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 25 12:35:17 2011. A personal question. Do you ask a lady if her head is shaved? Otherwise how would you you know what is under the wig. No religious woman is going to show any man besides her husband what is under the wig. And if you have a wife like that, that counts for one person so you couldn't know of others. Even if someone tells you, they could be lying because you would never see it. So how many woman do you know that you are talking about? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 25 12:51:04 2011, in response to Re: (off topic)Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Oct 24 11:27:40 2011. My comment is my interpretation of the readings (and I am far from the only person who interprets it that way).OK, but the interpretation of a "person" and an "Orthodox rabbi" are two very different things. Also, we were talking about sex being primarily for procreation, which is not true at all in Judaism. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 25 12:52:35 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:59:08 2011. I am not all happy about how chickens and other livestock are treated but that is a separate issue.So you only buy free-range, I hope? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 25 12:55:12 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:40:10 2011. That's been around long before the Internet.And it supposedly started when a non-Jew or non-observant Jew saw a talis katan (a sleeveless undershirt with fringes on the corners) hanging on a clothesline. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 25 13:07:29 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 24 01:08:58 2011. That may be a custom, but I don't think it is very universal. I've never seen it done, AFAIK. More often, at religious weddings, the men will sit on one side and the women on the other.At, most frum weddings I've been to, men and women sat together at the ceremony and dinner, and are only separate at kabbalat panim and dancing. |
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Posted by LAG Driver on Tue Oct 25 13:07:56 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by The Silence on Tue Oct 25 12:16:56 2011. how come I dont see any tits, despite what those Garbage Point assholes put out about us being fags I love tits |
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Posted by JAzumah on Tue Oct 25 13:38:35 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by LAG Driver on Tue Oct 25 13:07:56 2011. Be careful what you wish for...you don't get to pick WHO takes their shirt off. |
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Re: Occupy the B110! |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 25 13:54:04 2011, in response to Re: Occupy the B110!, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Oct 23 15:37:48 2011. I think they have a curtain running down the aisle.Never ridden it, but from what I've heard and read, the curtain was only up for a run or two in the morning where there was a regular minyan for shacharis. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 25 13:54:51 2011, in response to Re: Occupy the B110!, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Oct 23 06:45:52 2011. Because then men could still see the women as they boarded at the front of the bus.There's nothing un-tznius about being seen by the opposite gender. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Oct 25 13:55:47 2011, in response to Re: ARTICLE: B110 Riders Must Demand Changes for Themselves, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:24:37 2011. I suggest you reread the article and then get back to us. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 14:00:15 2011, in response to Re: ARTICLE: B110 Riders Must Demand Changes for Themselves, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Oct 25 13:55:47 2011. Why? That isn't what it said? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Oct 25 14:00:29 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:32:01 2011. But that's not what you want to hear so it goes in one ear and out the other.I guess you don't pay much attention to my viewpoints on these sorts of matters. I don't think I'm the one in this conversation reading selectively. All you know is that Orthodox Jews must stick up for one another because any outsider as you see it who does not agree is the enemy and that includes non Orthodox Jews. I'm not Orthodox. The minyan that I help to run in Jerusalem is fully egalitarian and even allows bat-Kohanim to duchen. If a legitimate, fare paying passenger who has somewhere legitimate to go gets on the B110 and has problems, I'll side with that passenger. OTOH, journalists looking to make news don't qualify as legitimate passengers in my mind, since it seems as if they weren't following up a specific incident, but rather went to make a story. See the difference? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 25 14:02:12 2011, in response to Re: Shaving heads, posted by davidy on Tue Oct 25 12:50:54 2011. A personal question. Do you ask a lady if her head is shaved?...So how many woman do you know that you are talking about?Of course not, but my wife has seen them with their heads uncovered and could certainly name several dozen. I can think of two women in my community who have shaved heads, one of whom didn't before beginning cancer treatment. Of course, I do not live in a hasidic community in Brooklyn, and I know the practice is common in some small circles. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Oct 25 14:02:33 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:51:34 2011. Where in Jerusalem did you see that? You are really good at generalizing the actions of all orthodox/observant Jews. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Oct 25 14:03:48 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 11:56:45 2011. FWIW, the ultra-Orthodox who tried making the Jerusalem Light Rail gender separated insisted that the men should ride in the rear car only to show that they are not chauvinistic. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 25 14:05:16 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by JAzumah on Mon Oct 24 01:16:29 2011. From the article:A male photographer found it difficult to visit the back of the bus, filled with Hasidic riders loaded down with packages and the scent of freshly baked bread before the Jewish holiday Shemini Atzeret. The bus driver told him that only women were allowed there. So men are forced to sit in a certain section of the bus. Sounds like they're discriminating against men and treating them as second class citizens. Or treating them both equally, I'm not sure which. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 14:10:10 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 25 11:50:03 2011. I don't know who you are referring to when you say "he".Okay you say "most Tohrah Observant Jews do not practice the custom. That would include Conservative, Reform and Reconstructionists also since they are also "torah observant." Even if it is practiced only by the ultra-Orthodox which I believe is the case, it is still practiced. It doesn't matter how few people practice it because "few" is a relative term even if all the Ultra Orthodox do not believe in it, a large number still do. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Oct 25 14:10:42 2011, in response to Re: ARTICLE: B110 Riders Must Demand Changes for Themselves, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 14:00:15 2011. No, that isn't what it said.Just because sitting in the front seems normal to you doesn't mean it seems normal to someone else or that they think it should be normal. In a similar vein to why the Arab Spring may not result in Western style democracy because those people aren't familiar with living under such a system, you can't demand other societies change to your norms, they'll change themselves when and if they are ready and/or want to. Get it now? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Oct 25 14:11:24 2011, in response to Re: Occupy the B110!, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 25 13:54:51 2011. I'm well aware of the fact, but there are people who would disagree with that statement. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 14:11:57 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Oct 24 00:58:11 2011. Yes, just keep calling people names. That's what you just do best. And when someone calls you a name back, you just respond that you never attack someone first. Well, you just did. Hypocrite and liar. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 14:17:58 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Oct 25 14:00:29 2011. So what you are saying is that if the journalist had been an ordinary non-Orthodox Jew, they would not have been asked to change their seat? I really don't think so. I fail to see how her being a journalist in any way influenced what happened on those buses where in one case a passenger asked her to move and the other where it was the driver who asked the reporter to move. So there really isn't any difference is there?And by the way if you don't consider yourself "Orthodox", I am curious how you would classify yourself. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Oct 25 14:21:42 2011, in response to Re: Women ride in back on sex-segregated Brooklyn bus line, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 14:17:58 2011. So what you are saying is that if the journalist had been an ordinary non-Orthodox Jew, they would not have been asked to change their seat?No, I expect that person would have been asked to change her seat. The only difference is I'd take her side, and not the side of the other passengers. She has the right to ride the bus and sit where she pleases (conversely, if only ultra-orthodox Jews are on board the bus, they have the right to sit with gender separation if everyone on board wishes to sit that way). I take issue with a journalist going to create a story when none ought to exist under the circumstances as I believe them to be. And by the way if you don't consider yourself "Orthodox", I am curious how you would classify yourself. First, before I tell you what I consider myself to be, I'd be interested in hearing what makes you think I'm Orthodox. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Oct 25 14:24:11 2011, in response to Re: ARTICLE: B110 Riders Must Demand Changes for Themselves, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Oct 25 14:10:42 2011. No one has ever demanded that others change the way they believe as long as no one is being harmed which is the case here. The larger issue being discussed has nothing to do with what people choose to believe. It is about a public conveyor forcing (not requesting, there is a difference) that the public who has every right to board the bus abide by religious laws set by people who have no right to enforce those laws on the general public. They have a right to request and most people would oblige so as not to make a scene. They have no right to insist.Get it now? |
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