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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 15:50:20 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jun 16 15:37:48 2008. perhaps not those exact numbers, But i would suspect that the reverse is not too infrequent.Penn Station likely does have similar numbers for many of its stair cases, as I suspect does 42 and 59. |
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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 15:52:02 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jun 16 15:27:06 2008. It wouldn't be particularly hard to expand it 3 car lengths. Significantly less work then what they are trying to do currently. (Also not that important. South Ferry is not that busy of a station.) |
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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 15:52:51 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jun 16 13:16:00 2008. Ridiculously small in Safari too. |
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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jun 16 16:08:02 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 15:52:02 2008. South Ferry is not that busy compared to what? It's a major intermodal station.And three car lengths is not sufficient from an operational standpoint, unless you shorten trains to eight cars. |
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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jun 16 16:12:04 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 15:50:20 2008. 'Many' staircases. I've never been in the type of crush that is experienced at South Ferry at any other station, not to say it doesn't happen occasionally, but at SF, it's predictable. |
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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 16:23:39 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jun 16 16:08:02 2008. The current platform is 7 cars long. |
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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jun 16 16:23:52 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jun 16 16:12:04 2008. That's why the new station will have multiple entrances. |
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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jun 16 16:25:02 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jun 16 16:08:02 2008. What you have to understand about Lincoln is that he's focused on the trains and other inanimate objects, not on people. |
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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 16:26:03 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jun 16 16:12:04 2008. It happens every day at Penn Station(Both) Grand Central, Times Square, 51-53rd and Lexington, 59-60th and Lexington, Atlantic Avenue, 59th st. Columbus Circle, and numerous other stations systemwide. |
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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 16:26:34 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jun 16 16:25:02 2008. Stop projecting your obsessions onto others. It gets old. |
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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jun 16 16:26:46 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 16:26:03 2008. And you know this how? |
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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 16:27:39 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jun 16 16:26:46 2008. By using these stations regularly, as most other people know such things. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jun 16 16:27:50 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 16:26:34 2008. Stop obsessing about trains, develop real knowledge outside of the railbuff hobby, and a lot of people will respect your opinion a lot more. |
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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jun 16 16:29:19 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 16:27:39 2008. Which other people? You only hang with "Aspie" railbuffs. On the other hand, there are plenty of normal riders who would disagree with you. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 16:30:48 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jun 16 16:27:50 2008. YOU have neither knowledge, NOR the mental capacity to interpret knowledge here or elsewhere. YOU are the one who is openly disrespected by the majority of the people who deal with you due to your significant lack of knowledge, logic, or even the simplest of personal skills which makes you appear autistic. Go find help, you obviously need it. |
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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jun 16 16:47:46 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 16:23:39 2008. It has been a while since I was down there, but I am pretty sure it's six, but only five positions available. And you still have the gap filler issue, and the speed to enter and exit the station. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jun 16 16:49:41 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 16:26:03 2008. But you still have other options in and out, you're not limited to just one way in or out. Operationally, the loop is sensible. From the standpoint of passenger loading, it's impractical. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jun 16 16:53:52 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jun 16 16:49:41 2008. Let's qualify that. The South Ferry Loop is impractical. We don't want to say ALL loops everywhere would be impractical. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jun 16 16:54:54 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jun 16 16:47:46 2008. You would be correct. There is more room than five cars' worth, but only five can berth, with the aid of the gap fillers. |
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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by Alex L. on Mon Jun 16 17:03:43 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Jun 15 12:35:36 2008. The current station only handles 20 tph; the new station will berth 20% more trains and handle all 10 cars at once.The current station only handles 20 tph because that is all that the northern terminal is capable of. Left to its own devices, South Ferry could handle around 30 tph. The new station might be able to berth 20% over the current load, but would still be at a disadvantage to what could be handled. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jun 16 17:12:23 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Alex L. on Mon Jun 16 17:03:43 2008. Ron hasn't listened to this for the past 3 years. I don't know why he'd listen now. I don't understand why you bother replying to his posts. It just gives him a chance to make an unwarranted personal attack and feel even better about himself, and thus encourage himself to keep making more of such posts. |
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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Mon Jun 16 17:19:16 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jun 16 16:49:41 2008. Operationally, the loop is sensible. From the standpoint of passenger loading, it's impractical.QFT |
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Posted by J trainloco on Mon Jun 16 20:06:33 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Jun 15 20:49:00 2008. Who is "everyone else?" The foamers who post here? Is Train Dude a foamer? Is Railman a foamer? Is Northeast T/O a foamer?You're the one who suggested that 'everyone here' is a foamer, not R30A. Incidentally, I mean absolutely NO DISRESPECT to Railman, Northeastern T/O or any other employee, but being a train operator does not mean that you are a qualified analyst of mass transit operations. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jun 16 20:09:59 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by J trainloco on Mon Jun 16 20:06:33 2008. "You're the one who suggested that 'everyone here' is a foamer, not R30A."Incorrect. I said Lincoln hangs out with the foamers. That doesn't include a lot of people who post here - the ones who try to avoid the foam. "Incidentally, I mean absolutely NO DISRESPECT to Railman, Northeastern T/O or any other employee, but being a train operator does not mean that you are a qualified analyst of mass transit operations." True, though I'd rank them quite a bit higher than Brian, Lincoln, "trainsarefun", Prolog and a few others who can't do anything except foam. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 20:13:12 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jun 16 20:09:59 2008. You hold the people I hang with in higher respect then the people I hang with?That doesnt make much sense. |
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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 20:18:09 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jun 16 16:47:46 2008. 7 cars can platform, there is a full car length both in front and behind the 5 platforming cars. So yes, I should have qualified that statement- 3 cars worth of platform, and the addition of gap fillers to two carlengths of existing platform.Either way-- 1. I highly doubt south ferry is even close to the top 10 most congested areas in the subway 2. The existing station likely can run significantly higher amounts of service then the new station. 3. an additional exit could have been added for a grand total of ZERO DOLLARS!(IT WAS ADDED!, then removed) 4. The new station will have LESS CONVENIENT access to the ferry, and I highly suspect that nearly all ferry patrons will use the southern entrance to the station, making such a justification rather baseless. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Mon Jun 16 20:20:38 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 15:50:20 2008. Broadway-Junction ENY has the exact same problem, and NYCT hasn't done anything to fix it. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Mon Jun 16 20:27:38 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jun 16 20:09:59 2008. I'm still stumped by what foaming is. You seem to think that it is whenever someone tries to analyze data in an intelligible way that doesn't conform to your opinion. I'm not as staunchly opposed to you as others, but I really wish you wouldn't launch so many personal attacks in the form of "you're just a stupid foamer". You would retain much more credibility among people, and people would take you more seriously. Unless this is just an elaborate game which you get some twisted sense of satisfaction out of playing. |
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Posted by J trainloco on Mon Jun 16 20:30:37 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 20:18:09 2008. Having more than one means of egress is critical in case of emergencies.At the end of the day, I'm not sure that a platform on a loop is ideal: I don't think it's very ADA friendly. Extending the current station was not the best idea, and while I'd have rather seen the money spent on something else, the station we are getting is not so bad. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jun 16 20:44:22 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by J trainloco on Mon Jun 16 20:30:37 2008. I certainly agree that an additional exit is a good thing to have, but numerous busier stations have single exits which could fairly easily have another added to them.While the idea of a platform on the outside of a loop is inideal due to the moving platforms, the loop allows the center of the platform, as well as numerous other entrances to be AT the ferry terminal. NONE of the entrances will actually be at the ferry terminal in the new station. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jun 16 20:53:00 2008, in response to Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jun 14 04:48:49 2008. I think that the (5) should help out the (4) in Brooklyn and go to Brooklyn College, or maybe even Crown Heights/New Lots Avenue. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jun 16 21:01:08 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by J trainloco on Mon Jun 16 20:27:38 2008. I'm not as staunchly opposed to you as others, but I really wish you wouldn't launch so many personal attacks in the form of "you're just a stupid foamer".Welcome to 2001. He's been doing this since I joined SubTalk. He has not changed in seven years. I don't understand why anyone replies to his posts. He's a non-issue. You would retain much more credibility among people ahgahahaahahahahahahahahahahahah! credibility?!?!? he has none!!!! and people would take you more seriously a few short sighted people still do, unfortunately. they are the ones still replying to his posts - for why, I don't know. Because all it does is allow him to make more attacks and boost his ego, and encourages him to make more such posts. Which brings me to your last point. Unless this is just an elaborate game which you get some twisted sense of satisfaction out of playing. Why are you even questioning it? He has admitted outright, on more than one occasion, that SubChat is a game to him. If all the learned people who waste time replying to his posts would instead reply to other people or just do anything else in their lives, we'd all be so much better off for it. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jun 16 21:29:51 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jun 16 20:09:59 2008. True, though I'd rank them quite a bit higher than Brian, Lincoln, "trainsarefun", Prolog and a few others who can't do anything except foam.Here to play again? You're a real masochist! But I like your tenacity; although others would say that only someone with no life would so regularly obsess over constantly asserting that you must be right, and that even if you're wrong, you must be right. You have a short memory. While I've been posting here, which isn't all that long, you've called not only the aforementioned by juvenile names, but also, let's see, Charles G, Stephen Bauman, Railman718, MJF, and told at least one person in NYCT supervision who wrote a manual with respect to a car class that your 'knowledge' was superior to his and that he didn't know what he was talking about. (Because of course, your decades of 'Walter Mitty' experience trump the actual experience of others). I'm sure that anyone who cares to search your prior posts can no doubt dig up insults against probably ever single regular poster here, excepting yourself. I think that I speak on behalf of the community here, that although there was some very tough competition, you have successfully re-captured the title of village idiot. Congratulations! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Jun 16 21:50:16 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jun 16 15:20:53 2008. David was just over tired. |
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Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jun 17 01:14:45 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Jun 16 15:09:33 2008. Saying that the Loop should not be used for new service just because they built a new terminal is not a good reason. The new terminal is for the West Side IRT Local. The old one could be used for East Side IRT trains during certain times and I would make it exit-only for safety reasons. The (6) would only crossover into the (4) on late nights when the (5) is not running and when there are 20 minute headways. I doubt it would complicate things. It would beat waiting for the next (4) at BB when you have a boat to catch that runs only once an hour on late nights. I agree that the Shuttle would create more problems then it solves and that a passageway from SF to BG would be more effective. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Jun 17 05:04:42 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Russ on Mon Jun 16 12:52:15 2008. Russ:I understand where you are coming from, however, you also are dealing these days with people who likely don't want to have to walk the additional blocks from the ferry to get to Bowling Green for the 4/5 as I understand it, and would rather be able to get the Lexington Line directly from South Ferry. It's also not like this station is going to be demolished, as it still is going to be used to turn the 5 when it is not going to Brooklyn and also will be used when the 2/5 have to swap lines in one direction. That, coupled with giving riders from both the 7th Avenue and Lexington lines direct access to the Ferry terminal to me makes it worthwhile to keep the old SF terminal open after the new one does open, just substituting the Lexington Line as noted (including re-opening the short platform at BG for the old shuttle that would only run during rush hours, which would probably need only one 2-3 car train). And as for keeping the old SF station open when the new one opens, I suspect ridership would not be as high in the old SF station on normal days (as some would walk to BG), but on bad weather days and late at night (when in my scenario the 6, extended from BB would go there) would be used as much as it is now. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jun 17 05:16:37 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jun 16 07:30:13 2008. lAP DOG .YENTA BOY |
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Posted by MJF on Tue Jun 17 05:33:52 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jun 16 21:29:51 2008. He never lost that title.I wouldn't lose any sleep over that turd. He admits he likes to play "the game of SubChat". Sometimes I'm up for a joust with him. Most of the time I have no patience for it. Few here take RonwhousedtobefromBayside seriously. Ron's credibility rating--->LESS THAN ZERO. He's living proof that no matter your supposed level of education (this is the internet, you can be anyone you say you are) you can act like a jerk. |
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Posted by Russ on Tue Jun 17 05:52:51 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Jun 17 05:04:42 2008. I understand where you are coming from, however, you also are dealing these days with people who likely don't want to have to walk the additional blocks from the ferry to get to Bowling Green for the 4/5 as I understand it, and would rather be able to get the Lexington Line directly from South Ferry.Do you have ANY evidence that commuters are less willing to walk 1,000' than they were in the past? It's also not like this station is going to be demolished, as it still is going to be used to turn the 5 when it is not going to Brooklyn... Providing enhanced service during off peak hours is a terrible idea. We would have the only station in the system that is closed during the rush hour. You alter expectations about what is available, and soon the rush hour commuters will want this option too, even though running the 5 there during rush hour would slow down the Lex because the same inadequacies of the current terminal still exist. You're fixing a non-existent problem by introducing new problems. No, it won't ever be used for revenue service again after the MTA spent a half billion replacing it with a better terminal. Run the 6 train there during Midnight hours? That costs money, and no one is asking for it. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Jun 17 06:17:40 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Russ on Tue Jun 17 05:52:51 2008. You misread Russ:The old shuttle would be revived to cover the rush hours, and that would be the only time that would be used (the 5/6 would be more than sufficient otherwise). As for the 6 going to BG/SF late nights, that would only add 3-4 stops to that line (and the 6 used to go to SF at one time as I remember) and more importantly would double service to lower Manhattan to those who go to Fulton, Wall or Bowling Green at that time even if the 6 were to terminate at BG as the 5 does during non-rush hours. |
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Posted by kawasakiR142 on Tue Jun 17 06:46:05 2008, in response to Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 12 23:04:00 2008. there is no switch south of rector to relay trains |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 17 06:55:35 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jun 17 05:16:37 2008. BUTTHOLESURF |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 17 07:02:11 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by MJF on Tue Jun 17 05:33:52 2008. Now there's something we can agree on. Hopefully others will take your message to heart and start ignoring his posts and not replying to them. That will get the message across that his unwarranted personal attacks will not be tolerated here. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Jun 17 11:25:07 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 17 06:55:35 2008. I love intelligent discourse. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Jun 17 12:06:37 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Russ on Tue Jun 17 05:52:51 2008. You don't really need evidence of people not wanting to walk; it's anecdotal. Ask people if they would like to be able to get on a Lexington train at the Ferry, and not walk to Bowling Greebm they'll all say yes. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 17 12:14:04 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Jun 17 11:25:07 2008. I do too. Unfortunately some people feel the need to try to ruin it here. You'd do best to address them with your feelings. Tell them that such unwarranted attacks are not appreciated. |
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Posted by Russ on Tue Jun 17 16:53:25 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Jun 17 12:06:37 2008. "You don't really need evidence of people not wanting to walk"That's only half of what I was asking about. Here is my question: "Do you have ANY evidence that commuters are less willing to walk 1,000' than they were in the past?" The relevance of the comparison is that the Shuttle that used to exist was discontinued, and that there has not been any local demands to reinstate the service, that I'm aware of (and I live down here,) in the decades since it was discontinued. |
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Posted by Russ on Tue Jun 17 17:03:52 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Jun 17 06:17:40 2008. You misread Russ:The old shuttle would be revived to cover the rush hours Fair enough, I did misread that point. That said, the old shuttle was discontinued for a reason, and there is no demand to reinstate it. Why spend the money on reintroducing an unwanted service when there are riders, such as those on the G train, begging the MTA for enhanced service? As for the 6 going to BG/SF late nights, that would only add 3-4 stops to that line You've either added time to the headway of 6 trains, or you have to pay for providing more service. I occasionally ride these trains in the wee hours of the morning, and they are anything but crowded. The extra service is not needed. Let us also remember that the operational problems with that station still exist. Any plan to reintroduce revenue service to the current SF station will reintroduce the operational problems. |
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Posted by MJF on Tue Jun 17 19:11:57 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 17 07:02:11 2008. "That will get the message across that his unwarranted personal attacks will not be tolerated here."You mean like your UPA's on DouceMan. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 17 20:12:04 2008, in response to Re: Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station, posted by MJF on Tue Jun 17 19:11:57 2008. Link? |
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