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Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 31 09:46:47 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 31 09:43:27 2008. What does that matter? I answered your original question. Maybe your original question should have been more specific??? |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 11:02:25 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jan 31 08:07:14 2008. Ever see the Cross-Bronx not packed beyond capacity?Sure I have, only between the hours from 3 AM to 4 AM each weekday morning. Maybe this will give you a taste of the Cross-Bronx, especially in the southbound (towards GW Bridge) direction. I already know how it is like, thus when I need to get to the GW Bridge from the Bronx, I use different shortcuts, like the Bruckner around to the Deegan, or across Tremont Ave or Claremont Parkway. I have pretty much a shortcut for every highway I can possibly avoid that is backed up, even one for the BQE. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jan 31 11:07:30 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub), posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 11:02:25 2008. especially in the southbound (towards GW Bridge) direction.How can anyone describe West-North-West as South?!? |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 11:12:52 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jan 31 11:07:30 2008. Because the Cross-Bronx expressway from the Alexander Hamilton Bridge to the Bruckner Interchange is designated as part of I95, a north-south interstate route. Odd numbered interstate routes run north-south. Oddily enough, I495 (LIE) is oficially east-west proper. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jan 31 11:24:19 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 11:12:52 2008. Because the Cross-Bronx expressway from the Alexander Hamilton Bridge to the Bruckner Interchange is designated as part of I95, a north-south interstate route. Odd numbered interstate routes run north-south.So it should be I-98 east of the Hudson then. Or the numbering scheme sucks. |
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Posted by Fytton on Thu Jan 31 11:24:51 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub), posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 11:02:25 2008. 'Maybe this will give you a taste of the Cross-Bronx,'Nope. 'This camera is being serviced. This is an archive view only.' |
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Posted by Fytton on Thu Jan 31 11:28:23 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jan 31 11:24:19 2008. 'Or the numbering scheme sucks.'No it doesn't; I-95 runs all the way down the East Coast from Maine to Florida. If you start from Santa Monica, California, and drive eastwards across the country, you would cross successively I-5, I-15, I-25, and so on, until finally, close to the east coast, you would cross I-95. Very systematic. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 11:42:51 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Fytton on Thu Jan 31 11:28:23 2008. No it doesn't; I-95 runs all the way down the East Coast from Maine to Florida.Not between Exit 7A (I195) and the Delaware Memorial Bridge in NJ, until the completion of the PA Turnpike/I95 realignment takes place in PA. It is the last piece of I95 that prevents it from being a completed route. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jan 31 12:19:39 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Fytton on Thu Jan 31 11:28:23 2008. The east coast practically turns through 90 degrees at New York. I-95 should go up the Hudson valley to Albany and Canada. That way the pattern is kept, whilst the directions don't go screwed up around New York and New England.But then again, hub-based numbering schemes are much better than grid ones. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 31 12:31:36 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jan 31 12:19:39 2008. Yes, the idea is to keep a consistent number all across a corridor. Many people drive the I-95 corridor. It is very helpful to have it retain that number for the whole route. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 31 13:00:28 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Jan 30 12:42:07 2008. It's not a useful street that could go anywhere. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 31 13:13:31 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 11:12:52 2008. I've already pointed this out to you. 3 digit interstates are branches off of the 2 digit mainlines and do not follow the odd/even logic. If they did, it wouldn't make sense. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 31 13:16:13 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jan 31 12:19:39 2008. More people drive from New York to Boston than New York to Montréal. I-95 makes sense as it currently stands. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 31 13:16:48 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 31 09:23:51 2008. IAWTP |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jan 31 13:51:39 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Jan 30 22:02:10 2008. No. All are correct.How are they wrong? All of the easy ones are easy because they follow direct passageways from point A to point B. All of the hard ones are hard because they require going up and down onto another platform to get around a subway line which happens to get in their way. Neither of those situations will change in any way with FTC. If you wish to refute that, provide a counter example, and HOW that counter example will change from being easy/hard with the construction of FTC. You can't because there is no such counterexample. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 14:01:32 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Jan 30 22:02:10 2008. So you think it is difficult to transfer from the 4/5 to the A/C? Explain your PROFF, since you think you know more than Lincoln, I, and anyone else living in the NYC are and use the Fulton complex on a regular basis. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 14:02:46 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by R30A on Thu Jan 31 13:51:39 2008. Exactly! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 31 14:06:51 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by R30A on Thu Jan 31 13:51:39 2008. IAWTP! |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Jan 31 14:08:08 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by R30A on Thu Jan 31 13:51:39 2008. "All of the hard ones are hard because they require going up and down onto another platform to get around a subway line which happens to get in their way."That is your personal value judgment of "hard." The elevators and escalators used to get over the subway tunnel structure will make that easy. That is the consensus in New York. You're just upset because nobody put you in charge. Finish school, get some real expeience in the world besides railfanning, and maybe some day you will be in charge. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 31 14:18:54 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by R30A on Thu Jan 31 13:51:39 2008. btw you're not going to win. there's no point giving him a forum just so he can tell us how dumb he is ("going over the tunnel structure") and then throw is a few unwarranted personal attacks ("Finish school, get some real expeience [sic] in the world besides railfanning"). |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 14:24:23 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Jan 31 14:08:08 2008. You can't win this argument because you lack the proper experience, and it's called personal observations. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 14:34:40 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Jan 31 14:08:08 2008. The elevators and escalators used to get over the subway tunnel structure will make that easy. That is the consensus in New York.Assuming 14th Street/7th Ave/6th Ave complex is renovated, do you think this will change the layout and make it easier? NO, you still have to use the L line platform to transfer between the IND and IRT. Do you think Canal complex would be easier if the rest of the commplex had elevators? NO, you still have to use one of the two Bridge platforms. Do you think using Times Square is any easier than before Phase I of the renovations started? NO, if you need the 7 line, you have to find the right passagway or staircase. If one of the transfers is to/from the A/C/E, there is no staight path beyond the 7 line downstairs. Do you think uusing 59th Street/CC will be any easier after the IND and IRT complex is fully ADA compliant? NO, you will still have two seperate sets of stairs from the IND platforms to each side of the 1 line. And you think FTC would be any easier than it is now? NO |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Jan 31 14:52:22 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 31 13:13:31 2008. But 495 is an odd one. According to the three-digit rule, even first digits represent beltways or loops (full or partial), where odd first digits are meant for spurs or branches that do not return to the originator interstate. 495 is definitely not a loop -- it's more of a branch -- yet it has an even first digit. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 14:58:57 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Jan 31 14:52:22 2008. I390 from Bath to Rochester, NY is not a loop route. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 14:59:49 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 14:58:57 2008. And I380 from I80 to Scranton, PA where I87 meets. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 15:00:41 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 14:58:57 2008. Oops, I didn't read the post correctly, sorry! My bad. |
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Posted by WillD on Thu Jan 31 15:42:53 2008, in response to Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Russ on Mon Jan 28 20:24:18 2008. Perhaps the most intriguing thing to come out of this is that it basically amounts to the MTA's tacit admission that the Fulton Transit Center is a make-work project only there to consume federal money earmarked for Lower Manhattan. They couldn't come up with anything truely useful for it (such as the SAS, 7 train extension, or ESA), and something like building the Water Street alignment of the SAS now would take too long and potentially be underutilized until the rest of the route were finished (see the U55 in Berlin).The FTC project undoubtedly was the "least worst" choice the Capital Construction folks could choose, since it provided ADA compatibility to a large station complex using Federal while giving Kalikow's considerable ego a boost with the stationhouse to rival the PANJNY's structure at the WTC. But the ONLY important part of the project is the addition of ADA compatible elements, especially since the folks at MTA:CC eschewed passageways to separate crowds. Now that Kalikow is gone and the MTA doesn't need something extra to sop up the left over Federal money due to overruns the stationhouse, which was always superflous, is on the chopping block. Too bad the passageways the MTA left out of the original design aren't coming back, then this might be a bit more than a simple yet massively expensive ADA compatibility project. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Jan 31 15:58:37 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Jan 31 14:52:22 2008. But 495 is an odd one.Ahh, good old I-495... Once upon a time, I-495 was supposed to run thru Manhattan via the Lincoln and Midtown Tunnels and the Mid-Manhattan Expressway. The former terminus of I-495 would be the Clearview Expressway in Fresh Meadows, née I-78, now I-295, and I-95 in Secaucus. Thus, this routing would have satisfied the "loop" requirements, but once the poorly thought out Manhattan section was cut, New Jersey abandoned it's I-495 designation for NJ 495, and I-495 extended beyond the Clearview Expressway in the mid-1980s, the route no longer served as a loop, but as a spur serving Long Island. The only way for I-495 to become a loop is if they eventually build the "pont sur la mer" off the East End... |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Jan 31 16:08:12 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Jan 31 15:58:37 2008. Thanks for the info.Although it would make more sense to build the Manhattan link (via a tunnel connecting the QMT and Lincoln tunnels) and just rename the entire thing I-395. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 31 16:09:35 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Jan 30 22:02:10 2008. It is EASY to get from the 2/3 to the A/C. FTC doesn't change that.It is EASY to get from the 4/5 to the A/C. FTC doesn't change that. It is HARD to get from the 2/3 to the 4/5. FTC doesn't change that. It is EASY to get from the J/M to the A/C. FTC doesn't change that. It is EASY to get from the SB J/M to the 2/3. FTC doesn't change that. It is HARD to get from the NB J/M to the 2/3. FTC doesn't change that. It is HARD to get from the SB J/M to the 4/5. FTC doesn't change that. It is EASY to get from the NB J/M to the 4/5. FTC doesn't change that. "All of your statements are false, except for statement 1. " Huh? Do you think it is hard to get from the 4/5 to the A/C, or do you think the FTC will make it hard? Do you think it is hard to get from the NB J/M to the 4/5, or do you think the FTC will make it hard? Do you think it is hard to get from the SB J/M to the 2/3, or do you think the FTC will make it hard? What is the FTC doing to make it easier to get from the 2/3 to the 4/5? I may be missing something but I don't see anything in the plans. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 31 16:33:27 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by WillD on Thu Jan 31 15:42:53 2008. well said |
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Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Jan 31 16:34:03 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by The Port of Authority on Thu Jan 31 16:08:12 2008. Although it would make more sense to build the Manhattan link (via a tunnel connecting the QMT and Lincoln tunnels) and just rename the entire thing I-395.I-495 has been a fixture in the NYC Metro area that it really doesn't make sense at this point to change it so it can stay follow the numbering rules. As for connecting I-495 back to I-95, I'd rather see new tunnels built to bypass the Queens Midtown and Lincoln Tunnels with no Manhattan access. I would suggest starting it from the BQE/LIE interchange to some point along the New Jersey Turnpike. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 31 16:37:43 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 31 16:09:35 2008. the problem is that he doesn't think, and everyone here keeps giving him a forum to continue spouting his utter nonsense and unwarranted personal attacks. if everyone refrained from replying to all of his posts, he would go away, change his ways, or maybe even start to learn from the knowledgeable people here. |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Jan 31 16:45:16 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jan 31 11:24:19 2008. Or the numbering scheme sucks.This from the guy who comes from the country where road signs lack direction, and "The North" constitutes a real location on a sign. There's no reason for numbers to magically drop because the road changed direction or passed through a city when it functions as an important regional corridor. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jan 31 16:47:20 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Jan 31 14:08:08 2008. Ron yet again manages to discuss with certainty what he knows nothing about.If you want to dispute my statement, dispute it! Find a counter example-- Explain how any of the EASY transfers are HARD, and explain how any of the hard transfers will be fixed by FTC. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jan 31 16:48:54 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 31 14:18:54 2008. I won.I had won from the beginning! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 31 16:51:36 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by R30A on Thu Jan 31 16:48:54 2008. as far as real life is concerned, yes, but as long as ron keeps posting lies and unwarranted personal attacks, no one wins on SubChat. And on top of that, ron continues to think that he is right and that he won. |
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Posted by R30A on Thu Jan 31 16:53:13 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 31 16:51:36 2008. Ron knows he is wrong.His internet pen0r refuses to let him admit it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 31 17:02:51 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by R30A on Thu Jan 31 16:53:13 2008. i really don't think he is that smart. really. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 17:06:48 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jan 31 17:02:51 2008. You don't think? He IS smart...........................................................................................not! |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Jan 31 17:12:05 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 14:24:23 2008. What you call personal observation is what the rest of the world calls foaming. You can recite every serial number in the NYC fleet.What I call personal observation is seeing what people do, want to do and can or cannot do in the subway and in the stations. You have no interest in this, and neither does Lincoln. It doesn't matter to you. But being called on it does matter to you. It hurts your feelings to not be taken seriously on anything but the foaming and photography (I've always liked your photography). If I pretend that you're right on every question that comes up, it will probably make you feel better. Since that's what you want, that's what I'll do. It means you won't learn anything, but you're not interested in that anyway. You just like tobe told that you're right. Lincoln likes that too. If that's all you can handle, so be it. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Jan 31 17:32:10 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by WillD on Thu Jan 31 15:42:53 2008. "Perhaps the most intriguing thing to come out of this is that it basically amounts to the MTA's tacit admission that the Fulton Transit Center is a make-work project only there to consume federal money earmarked for Lower Manhattan."No, it is an admission that MTA took advantage of a one-shot deal to get a project done in Lower Manhattan that was on the back burner because, without the WTC money, thee were no funds to do it. "They couldn't come up with anything truely useful for it" According to you, but you don't know anything about MTA's internal politics. All you can do is fantasize. Your post tels us you have decided to continue applying for the job off MTA Chairman instead of paying attention to your schoolwork. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 17:45:07 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Jan 31 17:32:10 2008. Yet another unwarranted and unprovoked personal attack by Ron. |
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Posted by R160 8818 on Thu Jan 31 17:50:24 2008, in response to Re: FTC Entrance at Fulton and Broadway, posted by Wallyhorse on Thu Jan 31 05:41:19 2008. Sounds like a great idea, but bear in mind that it might violate the zoning issue. I believe Broadway in that section is mostly reserved for office/retail and hotels. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jan 31 17:58:37 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Jan 31 14:08:08 2008. Just answer the f↓¢ĸing question! |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jan 31 18:00:45 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jan 31 17:58:37 2008. He won't because he is the biggest pussy on these boards. |
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Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jan 31 18:07:22 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Thu Jan 31 16:45:16 2008. This from the guy who comes from the country where road signs lack direction, and "The North" constitutes a real location on a sign.What's wrong with that? And it's The NORTH, like this:  We also have The MIDLANDS, The SOUTH-WEST, and various others... There's no reason for numbers to magically drop because the road changed direction or passed through a city when it functions as an important regional corridor. There's a massive difference between a random city and a freaking huge city like New York. Look at England: the A1, A2, A3, A4, A40, and A5 all end in London. The A6 ends just outside London. Meanwhile, in Scotland, the A1, A7, A8, and A9 all end in Edinburgh. |
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Posted by Russ on Thu Jan 31 18:21:44 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jan 31 04:46:31 2008. I don't see how this is a circular argument. Perhaps I didn't adequately phrase my points.How does this work: No other area in New York City is believed to possess the development potential, within walking distance of a single subway station, that would result in new property taxes from that projected real estate development that would exceed the debt service to build the new transit infrastructure. |
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Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 31 19:01:58 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Jan 31 18:07:22 2008. Despite NYC being freaking huge, there is still traffic that only needs to pass through or around it on the way to something else. I would continue I-95 into Canada (Interprovincial Highway 95) and have it end in Halifax. |
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Posted by Russ on Thu Jan 31 19:06:12 2008, in response to Re: FTC Entrance at Fulton and Broadway, posted by R160 8818 on Thu Jan 31 17:50:24 2008. Zoning would not be an issue. If it could be demonstrated that there are advantages to residential space, then a waiver could easily be obtained.Anyway, much of the residential development south of Fulton St, and outside of BPC, is in older office buildings that are considered obsolete. As I see it, the proposal that generates the most income for the MTA, that community accepts, should be the one chosen regardless of how the space is allocated - provided that the MTA gets a suitable entrance built. |
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