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Re: Q35 |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Mar 10 17:06:19 2007, in response to Re: Q35, posted by 9 local on Sat Mar 10 16:56:38 2007. He may have stopped there...but that is NOT an authorized stop. That operator needs to be squared away. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BusMgr on Sat Mar 10 17:33:04 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 9 11:05:56 2007. MTA Bus routes outside New York City include BxM3, Q111, Q113, and QM1A. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Sat Mar 10 18:28:25 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Sat Mar 10 17:06:15 2007. There are enough to warrant the service of the Q35 making local stops. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Mar 10 18:46:26 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Sat Mar 10 17:06:15 2007. You don't ride the Q35 often do you? W/out the Brooklyn riders of that segement, the Q35 would be pretty empty [1/3 full]. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 10 19:16:09 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BMT Guy on Sat Mar 10 12:12:56 2007. Avenue C = Cortelyou RoadNot entirely. That almost works in the immediate area of the Brighton Line where many Avenues are running diagonally (although you end up with two Ds, and E for Newkirk). But picture yourself walking along one of E2-E5 Sts (map). You encounter: Albemarle Rd (pseudo-Av A) Church Av (diagonal) Beverly Rd (pseudo-Av B) Av C Cortelyou Rd (pseudo-Av D) Ditmas Av (pseudo-Av E) Av F But then Ditmas Av's location in the abecedarian scheme changes. Now picture yourself walking along E94 St (map). You encounter: Av A Av B Ditmas Av (pseudo-Av C) Av D Nolans Ln (minor) Foster Av (pseudo-Av E) Farragut Rd (pseudo-Av F) Glenwood Rd (pseudo-Av G) But arguably, Ditmas Av should be renamed Av E between Dahill Rd and Coney Island Av, and 18th Av should be renamed Ditmas Av between 47 St and Coney Island Av. BTW, this is similar situation in Flatbush/East Flatbush nabes where you have two F streets, Foster and Farragut Roads. I believe Foster is considered Ave. F since it runs further east and west than Farragut Road. Foster looks like it should be Eoster over there. But something goes seriously messed up at E56 St, where Farragut Rd suddenly becomes Glenwood Rd (map), whilst at E58 St Glenwood Rd becomes Av H (map). I'd be amazed if this doesn't cause quite a bit of confusion. What's also quite interesting is how the entire abecedarian scheme fizzles out. It wouldn't be any more absurd than what's gone on further west for the scheme to continue: Av B: New Lots Av - Dumont Av Av C / Ditmas Av: Linden Blvd - Hegeman Av - Linden Blvd Av D: De Witt Av - Linden Blvd - Loring Av - 149 Av - Bristol Av Av E / Foster Av: Stanley Av - 151 Av Av F / Farragut Rd: Wortman Av - 153 Av Av G / Glenwood Rd: Cozine Av - 155 Av Flatlands Av: 156 Av Av J: Vandalia Av But of course that would be horrible - as is the existing abecedarian pseudo-grid. It's just the existing is familiar, and therefore probably not as jarring as if someone proposed it de novo. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 10 19:21:34 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Mar 10 11:15:09 2007. There is an actual Avenue C though in Brooklyn.And it's one of only four in one bit, the others being A, B, and F. Av U is almost a fifth. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 10 19:25:27 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BMT Guy on Sat Mar 10 12:12:56 2007. Avenue C = Cortelyou RoadOh, and Cortelyou Road looks distinctly like a pre-grid relic from the aerials. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Sat Mar 10 19:30:03 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 10 19:25:27 2007. Yeah, I believe someone told me that either Cortelyou or Claredon Road was originally an extension of an old farm road called Canarsie Lane (which still exists today, but only in a small section of Canarsie). |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Sat Mar 10 19:41:23 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 21:20:16 2007. There of course could be a compromise: provide Limited Q35 stops during normal rush hours when there are more B41 buses on Flatbush....then provide the local stops during off-peak and weekends when B41 service is less + there are less Rockaway-bound riders because they tend to use the service ONLY for the morning and evening rush (daily commuters).The vast majority of the time the Q35 is picking up local folks anyhow (Junction to Kings Plaza and back). Besdies, wait till the summer rolls around and see how many locals will be pissed off by having to walk extra blocks for the bus to Riis Beach. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 10 19:49:42 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Mar 10 12:28:36 2007. Shame they didn't change the wonky bits of E52-E74 Sts to using names at the same time. How about maintaining the Amersfort name, and continuing using the names of Dutch towns:E52 St → Amersfoort St E53 St → Baarn St E54 St → Castricum St E55 St → Dordrecht St E56 St → Eemnes St E57 St → Ferwerderadiel St E58 St → Gouda St E59 St → Houten St E60 St → Ijsselstein St E61 St → Jacobswoude St E62 St → Kessel St E63 St → Leusden St E64 St → Maarssen St E65 St → Nieuwegein St E66 St → Oudewater St E67 St → Papendrecht St E68 St → Rhenen St E69 St → Soest St E70 St → Teylingen St E71 St → Utrecht St E72 St → Vianen St E73 St → Woerden St E74 St → Ziest St |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Mar 10 20:08:47 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 10 19:49:42 2007. Is it possible to change the signs now so all segments are the same name? |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 10 20:14:06 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BMT Guy on Sat Mar 10 19:30:03 2007. Yeah, I believe someone told me that either Cortelyou or Claredon Road was originally an extension of an old farm road called Canarsie Lane (which still exists today, but only in a small section of Canarsie).It looks like a lot of Canarsie Lane is still effectively there in the E48 St - Kings Hwy gap. Damn the Atlantic Ocean - I want to have a look! |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 10 23:15:15 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BMT Guy on Sat Mar 10 12:08:22 2007. You handle that with short runs on the B41 between the Junction and Kings Plaza, not with the Q35. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by PATHman on Sat Mar 10 23:23:17 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BMT Guy on Sat Mar 10 12:08:22 2007. The B41 is way better than the Q35. You rarely wait more than 5 minutes for the B41. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 10 23:26:04 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BMT Guy on Sat Mar 10 12:50:16 2007. Northern nabes in Brooklyn (which was the original City of Brooklyn) use almost exclusively NAMES in their street grid system.Because that part of Brooklyn was developed before the numeric and alpha grid for the City was laid out in 1811. The only numbered streets before 1811 were the North and South Streets in Williamsburg. Also, nabes that were developed after most of Brooklyn was already developed, like Canarsie, Mill Basin and Marine Park had to use a numbered system since the Ciy of New York ran out of appropriate names to assign to these 'newer' neighborhoods. What are you talking about? No one ran out of names. They were developed after 1811 except for a small portion of Old Canarsie. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 10 23:29:17 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 10 19:25:27 2007. Avenue C = Clarendon Road.The portion of Cortelyou Road west of Flatbush Avenue was originally called Road to Lotts House. The portion east of Canarsie Avenue(no longer a street but ran North South just east of Brooklyn Avenue) was called Canarsie Lane. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 10 23:31:54 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BMT Guy on Sat Mar 10 19:30:03 2007. Part of Cortelyou Road was Canarsie Lane. There may be one block left just east of Ralph Avenue. The old farm road you refer to is called Canarsie Road. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 10 23:34:52 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 10 20:14:06 2007. The remnants of Canarsie Lane you refer to are now private driveways. Only one block is driveable (but no one uses) is between Schenectady Ave (E 47 St) and E 48 St and is unsigned. I think it is covered with grass and gravel. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 10 23:36:55 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 10 19:21:34 2007. What are you trying to say? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 10 23:39:41 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Mar 10 12:28:36 2007. My guess is the residents probably requested it. It's still odd that because of this change, E 53rd and E 52nd now intersect. Also, using Queens logic in Brooklyn does not make sense if it is only done in one place. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 10 23:42:49 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Mar 10 13:35:41 2007. Talk about confusion. Why do we need two different Sheepshead Bay Roads near each other or two West 9th Streets in different parts of the borough?The northern Ford Street is two blocks long. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 10 23:46:03 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 10 19:49:42 2007. Actually the East 20's in Sheepshead Bay were once named. I could look them up if you are interested. All I remember is Delamere Street. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 10 23:51:58 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Rail Blue on Sat Mar 10 19:16:09 2007. But something goes seriously messed up at E56 St, where Farragut Rd suddenly becomes Glenwood Rd (map), whilst at E58 St Glenwood Rd becomes Av H (map). I'd be amazed if this doesn't cause quite a bit of confusion.The reason it's messed up is that the ends were built first and the middle built last. When the center section was completed and the streets met, someone probably said, "Oops!" |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 10 23:54:06 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 10 23:29:17 2007. I should have said, the diagonal portion of Cortelyou Road west of Flatbush Avenue was originally part of Road to Lotts House which continued diagonally into Borough Park where I believe the house was located. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Mar 11 00:15:10 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by PATHman on Sat Mar 10 23:23:17 2007. Not true, I have never ridden the Q35 but I know the B41 tends not show up and when it does, about 3 buses show up. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Mar 11 00:19:19 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Mar 11 00:15:10 2007. Well at least 3 buses show up on the B41. That never happens on the Q35 no matter how late a bus is. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Mar 11 00:22:35 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BMT Guy on Sat Mar 10 18:28:25 2007. There is also enough service on the B41 to handle the crowds between the Junction and Kings Plaza. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Mar 11 00:28:41 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Mar 11 00:19:19 2007. Oh, I guess I'm wrong, and in that case why are the riders that use to use the former stops complaining about the lost Q35 service? According to what you just stated I think that the only people who should be complaining are the Former Local Stop-Rockaways riders. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Mar 11 00:36:26 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Mar 11 00:28:41 2007. Because this is New York. Everybody complains in NY. :)All joking aside, the passengers were probably complaining because chances are that when that one lone Q35 shows up, it is never jammed packed like a lot of the B41s are. So the Q35 was a good comfortable alternative to the B41. Also, some of the riders were probably complaining because they were caught off guard when the change took place. Anyway, if you ever have time, stand at any bus stop along Flatbush Ave and count how many B41s will show up before that one Q35 does. You will see what I am talking about. Now me personally, I wouldn't mind the Q35 making all stops if they would increase the service a little. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by b1bus on Sun Mar 11 00:37:56 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 10 23:42:49 2007. Why is there a West 9 st near the Smith/9th stop? |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Mar 11 00:50:09 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 10 23:36:55 2007. What are you trying to say?That it's interesting that only four of all those alphabetic avenues are actually one contiguous street. |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Sun Mar 11 00:51:21 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 10 23:46:03 2007. Actually the East 20's in Sheepshead Bay were once named. I could look them up if you are interested. All I remember is Delamere Street.If it's easily look-up-able then please do. Trivia is such fun. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 11 01:14:52 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by b1bus on Sat Mar 10 00:51:48 2007. I wouldn't recommend it. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 11 01:15:22 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Fri Mar 9 12:40:10 2007. Yes it is, Bergen Beach B41 stop. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 11 01:16:43 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BMT Guy on Sat Mar 10 19:41:23 2007. Yup, this is the reverse thinking compared to teh Q53 where it was a super express scaled down to a limited. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 11 01:17:34 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Sat Mar 10 17:03:03 2007. And do you ride this bus everyday? |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 11 01:19:27 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by PATHman on Sat Mar 10 23:23:17 2007. B41 almost always bunches, you need to ride the Q35 on the WEEKDAYS. Of course the weekend service sucks. But that does not make the Q35 worse than the B41. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Mar 11 01:35:05 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Mar 11 00:36:26 2007. From my perspective, the Q35 seems to be made for riders in the Rockaways who want to go a destination on or near Flatbush Avenue south of Nostrand Avenue, and the B41 seems to be made primarily to serve Flatbush Avenue south of Livingston Street, Downtown Brooklyn, and to a lesser extent, Bergen Beach. According to that, I think that the simple solution is to add more B41 runs. This way, everybody is happy, although some Rockaway riders who had used the former local stops would be inconvenienced. The problem now though is the availibility of buses to cover these runs. As for riders being stunned by this, assign workers at the Nostrand Avenue (or other stops too, just giving an example) to inform riders about the new changes and post signs up on buses, both which I'm sure are being done.Also, I think I am going to ride the Q35 soon. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Mar 11 03:30:25 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Mar 11 01:35:05 2007. I know the signs about the changes on the Q35 were posted on the buses that operated out of the Far Rockaway Depot (I only rode the Q22 last Saturday and saw the posting on both buses that I rode).What I find typical is that the passengers do not bother to read about the changes and in my opinion that is there responsibility. I definately agree with the rest of your statement. Hope you ride the Q35 soon. It is a nice ride. Enjoy. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 11 09:29:10 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Mar 11 03:30:25 2007. I fall into the local stop-Rockaways category, and that is the basis of why I complain. I agree that the Q35 should not be used as a B41 supplement as I've said before.Passengers, if they see a service notice, should read it. However, for people like me, who use the Q35 infrequently but still on a regular basis (2-3 times per month) and who don't go on BusChat to see what's up would have been taken completely by surprise, standing at a local stop with the Q35 (perhaps one they needed to be on time somewhere) all of a sudden passing by. Maybe I'll wonder why the Q35 is no longer posted on the bus stop sign but it's also ridiculous to make people have to look at the bus stop sign every time they use the bus stop! |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 11 09:31:42 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 10 23:42:49 2007. The B36 routing along Sheepshead Bay Road, though I understand it and its reasoning, is crazy! |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by petabread2 on Sun Mar 11 09:40:17 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 11 09:31:42 2007. And if you posted signs on bus stops that the Q35 no longer stop there no one would read them. The Q53 stop on Queens Blvd and Woodhaven that was moved has 3 signs posted around the sign and people still wait for it. I got off the 53 the other day and was going to take the 60 and there about 10 people standing. I looked at the sign and then looked at them and one woman asked me if I knew why the Q53 was late and then I pointed out the stop change and the notice and they all went running for it. One guy said he didn't see any notices on the bus stop for this change. This is what, a month after the change occured. No one reads signs in this city. |
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Posted by petabread2 on Sun Mar 11 10:25:38 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by petabread2 on Sun Mar 11 09:40:17 2007. One more thing, I thought the Q35 limited starts tomorrow. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Sun Mar 11 11:05:25 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by b1bus on Sun Mar 11 00:37:56 2007. Why is there a West 9 st near the Smith/9th stop?It is actually an error by the DOT the street is actually called 9 Street West. It is an extension to 9 St. I guess people are used to the street name that they have not corrected the error. As of the second "Sheepshed Bay Road" by W 8 St, I have no idea. They should rename that street to fallen police officer or fireman since there stations are nearby. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Mar 11 12:40:43 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Rail Blue on Sun Mar 11 00:50:09 2007. Would these be those four: H, I, O, S, T? |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Mar 11 12:47:00 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by B49 Limited on Sun Mar 11 11:05:25 2007. 9 Street West would make sense, but every map I've ever seen in the past 40 years has called it West 9 Street. If DOT made a mistake with the street signs as they frequently do, why isn't it correct on the maps?Also there is only one building on the second Sheepshead Bay Road, which I don't believe was ever connected to the other one, so renaming it won't be a problem. If it is renamed, odds are they will pick a politician over a police officer or fireman. They seem to do that only for co-renamings. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Mar 11 12:56:10 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 11 09:31:42 2007. I was the one who recommended that route. Bet you didn't expect to hear that.David of Broadway recently told me that he thinks it would be less confusing if the eastbound bus turned up E 17 St instead of E 15 St. I think he is right. Too bad I didn't think of it back in 1978, because that is what it would be doing today. Passengers, however, would lose one bus stop at E 15 St and Ave Z. I don't think that would be significant. The time to make the change is now before the people move into the new co-op being completed on E 17 St. Incidentally, for one week beginning Nov 12, 1978, the B36 ran straight on Avenue Z westbound without looping down to the station. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Mar 11 13:04:09 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Rail Blue on Sun Mar 11 00:51:21 2007. This only applies south of Flatbush Avenue. East 21 St was Kenmore Place; East 22 St was Elmore Place; E 23 St was Delamere Place, and East 24 St was Mansfield Place. Bedford Avenue was E 25 St south of Avenue H. These streets ran as far south as Avenue U. North of Flatbush, these named streets were numbered. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Mar 11 13:06:21 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by b1bus on Sat Mar 10 00:51:48 2007. I suggested an underpass be built three years ago. Officially, DOT is still considering it. God knows if and when they will come up with the funding if they do decide to go ahead with it. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Mar 11 13:10:40 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Mar 11 13:06:21 2007. That is standard double talk:NYCDOT says They are still considering it. That means in plain English: It won't get built until someone dies as a result of its not being there. |
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