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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 1 22:24:52 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 1 21:48:01 2008. Andas a result he will lower the quality of the discourse here |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 1 22:25:24 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 1 21:50:20 2008. 100% FALSE |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 1 22:28:12 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 16:42:48 2008. LOL, good one! |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 1 22:47:22 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 1 21:48:01 2008. That's what I'd say. |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Feb 1 22:54:57 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 1 22:24:52 2008. Onlyway I could lower the quality of the discourse here on these stupid topics about who is more annoying in the unceasing idiocy duels over who's the more foolish : by typing like this . |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 23:04:06 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 1 22:25:24 2008. I'm afraid not. |
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Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Feb 2 07:05:22 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Feb 1 00:00:28 2008. I'm glad we don't have very many roundabouts traffic circles in this country. I'd get distracted from the road trying to read all the destinations on that sign.I agree on that one. England would be so much nicer with all the roundabouts ripped out and replaced by four-way stops, traffic lights, SPUIs, diamond interchanges, cloverleaves, and stacks as appropriate. |
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On Topic (vaguely) Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Feb 2 07:53:22 2008, in response to A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by WillD on Thu Jan 31 23:50:23 2008. Yet another step toward the Plan Voisin... |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Sat Feb 2 08:02:41 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by R30A on Fri Feb 1 12:17:45 2008. So you're saying that it's been 7 years or more that it's been closed?Wow....that's really sad. Jimmymc25 |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by MJF on Sat Feb 2 09:16:11 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 23:04:06 2008. You're right Ron. He would be the first to go.YOU would be the 2nd. |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Feb 2 09:30:58 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by MJF on Sat Feb 2 09:16:11 2008. 2nd from the last, you mean. And that's only because I'm not the webmaster.What you haven't picked up on is that each chat site has different rules. If you know what the rules are and follow them, you're OK. That ability is not present in many posters here. |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by MJF on Sat Feb 2 09:50:13 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by RonInBayside on Sat Feb 2 09:30:58 2008. It's a joke, Ron. |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 2 10:06:57 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 1 06:18:11 2008. Well no not really. But, yes. |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 2 10:10:53 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 15:02:39 2008. >>>>Can't prepare if the shit is not working. <<<Of course you can. Stop playing the victim. |
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Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 2 10:26:03 2008, in response to Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 17:08:52 2008. >>>>I live near a subway station....<<You sound more like you live IN a subway station. |
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Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 2 10:27:20 2008, in response to wRONgInBayside Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 17:15:07 2008. Hmmm someone else with a shrine to treopain tattoed on his arm??? |
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Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 2 10:28:57 2008, in response to Re: wRONgInBayside Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Feb 1 18:32:24 2008. hahaaduh, drool.......counting cars......15 minutes to Wapner......duh. |
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Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 2 10:30:23 2008, in response to Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 18:44:28 2008. >>>>You need a car when you're a new Train Operator<<<<NO YOU DON'T. |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 2 10:31:42 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Feb 1 20:07:11 2008. The MEM's do need to be maintained, just not as often. |
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Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 2 10:32:53 2008, in response to Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 18:44:28 2008. What you don't understand, is that one can love trains, and hate the New York City Transit Authority.Absolutely!!!! |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 2 10:33:54 2008, in response to Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 1 18:49:19 2008. And I thought Con Ed was the company "people love to hate"... |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 2 10:35:05 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 1 06:43:28 2008. Talking 'bout yourself again, I see. |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Feb 2 10:54:24 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by MJF on Sat Feb 2 09:50:13 2008. LOL! |
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Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Feb 2 10:55:01 2008, in response to Re: MTA persecutes LuchAAA, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 2 10:27:20 2008. Brian needs some lovin.... |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 2 11:00:43 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Feb 1 13:14:40 2008. >>>>I do not want anyone off here. <<<<Liar, why do you lie so much. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Feb 2 11:02:38 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by SMAZ on Fri Feb 1 03:52:13 2008. "Something along the lines of the FTC has been in the works for a long time"Because MTA has been hearing from a long time about how crappy the current station complex is. Hearing that from customers,patrons, voters. "Most people however do not follow up on the details of the project as we do here on SubChat" Everyone had multiple opportunities to participate in meetings about the project, talk to their legislators, call MTA etc. "Most NYers will never even know that the MTA even planned to build a Glass Egg." False and ridiculous. The Egg was all over the newspapers; it was discussed on NY1 and in public hearings. Most NYCrs knew all about it; many liked it; few complained about it. Many didn't feel strongly one way or the other because the federal government was picking up the whole tab. People responded positively to the design and it was only later, when the price tag shot up that concerns were voiced. At $750 million This project had the consensus of the city behind it. 9/11 helped inasfar as the tab was picked up, but no, attentiuon to the Memorial did not interfere with it. At $800 million, people raised concerns but largely still supported it. At $900 million it became untenable. |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Feb 2 11:03:56 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 2 11:00:43 2008. He lies like a rug. But we enjoy having him anyway. :0) |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 2 11:04:19 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 14:57:49 2008. Always have a card with at least one fare on it. Problem solved there, King Victim. |
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Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Feb 2 15:12:25 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Feb 2 07:05:22 2008. As a driver, four-way stops, traffic lights, interchanges, et cetera are vastly superior. |
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Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 2 15:52:21 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Feb 2 15:12:25 2008. But please, no cloverleaf interchanges. I enjoy rotaries (traffic circles) to drive through.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sat Feb 2 16:43:44 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by RonInBayside on Sat Feb 2 11:02:38 2008. Most NYers will never even know that the MTA even planned to build a Glass Egg."False and ridiculous. The Egg was all over the newspapers; it was discussed on NY1 and in public hearings. Most NYCrs knew all about it; many liked it; few complained about it. Many didn't feel strongly one way or the other because the federal government was picking up the whole tab. Of course it was all over the papers, NY1 and in public meetings. Since people like you and I are interested in transit projects, we will read about it, watch for it and follow up on it. Most other people go straight to the Sports Section, political stuff or celebrity gossip and either forget about it or ignore it altogether let alone get into the details. If you show me in passing a nice pretty Glass Egg and say that this will solve Fulton's problems, I would say "Hey that's great, I support it, especially if the Feds are paying for it" and then go back to reading about Michael Vick or Anna Nicole Smith. So what's the matter with Britney anyway? |
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Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Feb 2 17:02:14 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 2 15:52:21 2008. They're nice, but there's a fair share of drivers here who balk at the idea of entering aThe same often goes for four-way stops, although those are even simpler. |
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Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Feb 2 17:05:07 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 2 15:52:21 2008. But please, no cloverleaf interchanges.Cloverleaves are rubbish when there is a high volume of right turning traffic, but they're great at intermediate volumes, and infinitely preferable to monstrosities like this. And when the point comes when a cloverleaf doesn't work any more, it's not all that difficult to provide something better. |
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Posted by R30A on Sat Feb 2 17:09:06 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by RonInBayside on Sat Feb 2 11:02:38 2008. You have no way of knowing what people know about FTC.You know what YOU know about a project YOU care about. If people dont care, they won't pay attention. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Feb 2 17:09:49 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Feb 2 17:02:14 2008. They're nice, but there's a fair share of drivers here who balk at the idea of entering a rotary roundabout rond-points traffic circle and proceed to lose all knowledge they previously learned about proper signaling and yielding the right of way.Then the other half take the opportunity to take a racing line and drive at anti-urban speeds. And then there's the issue of creating massive severance... The same often goes for four-way stops, although those are even simpler. At least with four-way stops, speeds are kept down, and drivers are forced to have a certain amount of courtesy. |
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Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Feb 2 17:18:47 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Feb 2 17:05:07 2008. and infinitely preferable to monstrosities like this.The worst of both worlds! |
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Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Feb 2 18:50:53 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by R30A on Sat Feb 2 17:09:06 2008. "You have no way of knowing what people know about FTC."Had you realized that about yourself you wouldn't be posting this... :0) |
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Re: PHOTOS/Building an apartment building at FTC |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Feb 2 19:50:03 2008, in response to PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub), posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Jan 30 15:38:33 2008. A bit late, but those are very good pics showing the area.As noted, what probably should be done there is to build a 40-60 story residential building on the site above the new FTC entrance at Fulton and Broadway. There can also be a retail (4-5 floors perhaps) complex built in below the apartment building as well. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Feb 2 19:54:27 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS/Building an apartment building at FTC, posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Feb 2 19:50:03 2008. Good idea. |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Feb 2 20:26:49 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 1 22:25:24 2008. Thank you. |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Feb 2 20:30:52 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 14:48:41 2008. I doubt it. |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Feb 2 20:31:21 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Feb 1 22:28:12 2008. IAWTP! |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Feb 2 20:31:37 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 14:52:40 2008. IAWTP |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Feb 2 20:34:20 2008, in response to Re: LuchAryan, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 17:35:48 2008. hhahahahaahha |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Feb 2 20:39:06 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 1 15:12:43 2008. Thank you. |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Feb 2 20:39:36 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Feb 1 18:40:19 2008. No, I haven't.Please do not do so again. |
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Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Feb 2 21:20:47 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Feb 2 20:39:36 2008. Yes, you have. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Feb 2 22:22:33 2008, in response to Re: A PARK??? Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by RonInBayside on Sat Feb 2 21:20:47 2008. tHANK yOU |
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Posted by R30A on Sun Feb 3 02:00:49 2008, in response to Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit Hub, posted by RonInBayside on Sat Feb 2 18:50:53 2008. I do realize this.YOU are the one who doesn't Everyone here who DOES know and has posted about the project agrees that IT IS A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY, With the exception of you and a small group of others. YOU Are the person making the assumption that there is support for this beyond yourself and a few others. |
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Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Feb 3 06:09:26 2008, in response to Re: Robert Moses Would Be Proud (Re: PHOTOS (Re: Budget Concerns Threaten To Derail Fulton Transit H, posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Feb 2 17:18:47 2008. "and infinitely preferable to monstrosities like this."The worst of both worlds! There is actually one thing worse: the sort of interchange where the roads are just as big and busy, but they didn't build the flyover for one of the roads. This funnels even more immense amounts of traffic onto the roundabout, and invariably results in a major road being interrupted by a roundabout with traffic lights on it. Two particularly nasty examples are M42 J3 and M42 J4 (both just south of Birmingham, on the bit of beltway that actually got built). J3 in particular would be really great as a cloverleaf. |
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