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Re: Port Jefferson/Wading River Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Feb 15 20:04:17 2018, in response to Re: Port Jefferson/Wading River Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by Joe V on Thu Feb 15 18:35:35 2018. A pair of MP15ACs push several loads of coal back down the Kings Park Hosp. spur in the late 70s. AFAIK, that spur has long since been ripped up.
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Re: Oyster Bay Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos |
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Posted by northshore on Thu Feb 15 20:07:09 2018, in response to Re: Oyster Bay Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Feb 15 16:06:07 2018. The Leaning Tower of Pizza is unstable, but they didnt demolish it. I think they just used that as an excuse to get rid of it. |
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Re: Woodhaven Station 1990s LIRR Station Photos |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Feb 15 20:19:06 2018, in response to Woodhaven Station 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 15 14:31:26 2018. Nice, been up there many times as a kid. |
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Re: Port Jefferson/Wading River Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Feb 15 20:19:34 2018, in response to Port Jefferson/Wading River Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 15 14:19:06 2018. Is the Woodville Landing Rd bridge still there? I recall one bridge remaining along that route but not seeing it the last time I looked for it. I haven't been that way much in a long time though since my sister moved away from that area. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Feb 15 21:00:36 2018, in response to Re: Port Jefferson/Wading River Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by Andrew Saucci on Thu Feb 15 20:19:34 2018. Yup!!Here's street view: |
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Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Feb 15 21:09:04 2018, in response to Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 15 11:57:17 2018. Still kills me that LIRR was too cheap to convert those P72s and the locos that pulled them to HEP. Would have been better to put the former MU cab cars to the use originally intended. |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Feb 15 21:31:03 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 15 15:44:47 2018. I can remember standing in the vestibule with the door open as the train crossed over Rte 25A at Smithtown on more than one occasion. No one gave it a second thought, unlike today where 50 people would take a video on their phone; post it to social media; and then start ripping the MTA a new one over how unsafe the trains are. |
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Re: Guess the Location 1990s LIRR Station Photos |
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Posted by Charles G on Fri Feb 16 02:14:28 2018, in response to Guess the Location 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 15 14:46:44 2018. That’s Island Park |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 16 06:31:18 2018, in response to Guess the Location 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 15 14:46:44 2018. Yes, island Park. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Feb 16 07:26:16 2018, in response to Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 15 11:57:17 2018. Thanks- great shots!! A real massacre of stations occurred in 1998... |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Feb 16 07:28:55 2018, in response to Re: Port Jefferson/Wading River Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Feb 15 21:00:36 2018. Image not showing.Bill Newkirk |
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Re: Greenport/Ronkonkoma 1990s LIRR Station Photos |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Feb 16 07:31:50 2018, in response to Greenport/Ronkonkoma 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 15 13:51:49 2018. Wow...seeing these pics, it's hard to believe this was in my adult lifetime!! Back then, I only knew the Port Washington Branch- and I thought of the whole LIRR as M1/M3- like a suburban version of the subway. Today, I think that's actually true- even in diesel country. In 2013, I was a regular user of the Oyster Bay branch between Glen Street and the Main Line.These pics, as well as the Montauk pics, show a whole other side to the story- the eastern end of the line had a real rural flavor even in the fairly recent past. |
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Re: Oyster Bay Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Feb 16 07:35:27 2018, in response to Re: Oyster Bay Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by northshore on Thu Feb 15 20:07:09 2018. The Leaning Tower of Pizza is unstable, but they didnt demolish it. I think they just used that as an excuse to get rid of it.???????????? Bill Newkirk |
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Re: Woodhaven Station 1990s LIRR Station Photos |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Feb 16 07:45:08 2018, in response to Woodhaven Station 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 15 14:31:26 2018. Thanks- great pics- thanks for taking most of them, and sharing.But regarding the Woodhaven pre-abandonment photo- are you sure it isn't shortly after abandonment? The rails look rusty to me... And there's not a soul on the platforms (other than the photographer..) |
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Re: Greenport/Ronkonkoma 1990s LIRR Station Photos |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Feb 16 08:37:03 2018, in response to Re: Greenport/Ronkonkoma 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Feb 15 19:01:10 2018. I remember seeing an M-1 trainset at Calverton as recently as about ten years ago, give or take a couple years. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Feb 16 08:40:27 2018, in response to Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 15 11:57:17 2018. Had it been kept open with a high-level platform Center Moriches would have decent ridership today. It's a busy enough area. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 16 08:52:14 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Feb 16 08:40:27 2018. Absolutely. Just look at Bellport. No one EVER parked there. It was a dirt parking lot, weed infested platform, and horrible. It was as bad or worse as any east of Ronkonkoma station was before the rebuilds.But they put in the platform, paved the parking lot (granted, did make it smaller), and made it look like a "real" station, and the people came. Now it's hard to find a parking spot there. Center moriches was a decent station, even before the abandonment, with a nice parking lot, etc. The service was crumby, (just as Bellports was). Most trains skipped Center Moriches and Bellport. If they had normal service, and put a one car platform there like Bellport, people would use it. It beats dring and using Mastic-Shirley, or worse, driving to Ronkonkoma. |
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Re: Woodhaven Station 1990s LIRR Station Photos |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 16 08:55:59 2018, in response to Re: Woodhaven Station 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Feb 16 07:45:08 2018. It's from the book "Change at Ozone Park". It said it was open. Service was horrible near the end. Probably as bad as the Long Island City local stations near the end. The line was truncated at Ozone Park once the line to Rockaway was given over to the subway. So for about 10-15 years, the line already began to deteriorate with very few trains before finally closing in 1962. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 16 08:56:49 2018, in response to Re: Woodhaven Station 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 16 08:55:59 2018. Also, I think it was downgraded to one track usage at the end, but I am not sure of that. |
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Posted by Q4 on Fri Feb 16 08:56:52 2018, in response to Re: Oyster Bay Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Feb 15 19:35:12 2018. That Mill Neck Station House was very interesting. Does anyone know if if it is still there and if so, if it is being used for something (like a restaurant or store)? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 16 08:58:30 2018, in response to Re: Oyster Bay Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Feb 16 07:35:27 2018. It took me a few times, but I think I understand:Read it this way: The Leaning Tower of Pizza is unstable, but they didnt demolish it. I think they just used that as an excuse to get rid of it (meaning East Williston). |
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Re: Greenport/Ronkonkoma 1990s LIRR Station Photos |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 16 09:00:40 2018, in response to Re: Greenport/Ronkonkoma 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Feb 16 07:31:50 2018. The old diesels until the late 90's, were rolling disaters for the commuters, but railfans dreams. They were like in a time warp and made for interesting railroading. Unfortunately, I think I slowly lost my interest in rail photography slowly after the old diesels left. I did some photos of the new (new, lol, 20 years old now) trains, but I never really got interested in them like the old rolling stock. It was so much fun back then. |
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Re: Port Jefferson/Wading River Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 16 09:03:09 2018, in response to Re: Port Jefferson/Wading River Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Feb 15 21:00:36 2018. Trey copy and pasting this:https://www.instantstreetview.com/@40.949716,-72.905666,2.81h,0.48p,1z |
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Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Feb 16 09:05:57 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 16 08:52:14 2018. Bellwort's service is limited but enough to make it feasible for commuters. Contrast to the even more limited service on the Greenport branch, which works only for some commuters based on their working hours - the last evening connection leaves Penn at 5:41. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 16 09:11:05 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Feb 16 09:05:57 2018. Absolutely. Bellports service, even before 1998 rebuild was usable, now even more so. East of Ronkonkoma, not at all. Rush hours, Just about every train that goes through to Speonk stops, and most of the Montauk trains too. Rush hours, it's half hourly or better at that station which is fine. Medford, (even Holtsville), Yaphank, Riverhead, etc would have more usage if they had decent service. Even if it was hourly at rush hour to/from Riverhead in the least.Its absurd that Riverhead and west doesn't have normal service. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 16 09:12:57 2018, in response to Re: Oyster Bay Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by Q4 on Fri Feb 16 08:56:52 2018. It is still there. It is used as a Police Station. Actually, even when the station was still operating, the station house was already a police station. In the photo it was already operating as a Police Station. |
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Posted by sloth on Fri Feb 16 10:30:53 2018, in response to Re: Woodhaven Station 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Feb 16 07:45:08 2018. The signal is displaying clear, though that isn't conclusive by itself. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Feb 16 10:51:06 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 16 09:11:05 2018. Just one more Rverhead-Ronkonkoma shuttle in the morning and one in the evening would make the line far more usable. Yet LIRR management refuses to consider it. |
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Posted by northshore on Fri Feb 16 12:07:02 2018, in response to Re: Oyster Bay Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 16 08:58:30 2018. Exactly |
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Posted by Q4 on Fri Feb 16 12:46:27 2018, in response to Re: Oyster Bay Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 16 09:12:57 2018. Thanks. |
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Re: Port Jefferson/Wading River Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos |
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Posted by Q4 on Fri Feb 16 12:59:25 2018, in response to Re: Port Jefferson/Wading River Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 16 09:03:09 2018. I came across this one day several years back and figured it had to be part of the old Wading River Branch. I actually will be out that way this weekend. |
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Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 16 13:02:20 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by Dave on Thu Feb 15 21:31:03 2018. It was even better on the Montauk branch when the stairs we're open with low platforms. Unless you are talking when port Jeff also had low platform s |
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Posted by Q4 on Fri Feb 16 13:16:12 2018, in response to Re: Other Random Stations 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Feb 15 19:36:49 2018. I believe they still do and it terminates at Hunters Point. It then lays up for a nap at LIC Yard. Returns in the evening as the 5:29 Ronkonkoma train. |
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Posted by Q4 on Fri Feb 16 13:21:22 2018, in response to Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 15 11:57:17 2018. Thanks for sharing all of these. |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Feb 16 15:22:43 2018, in response to Re: Woodhaven Station 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 16 08:56:49 2018. you are correct. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 16 17:49:41 2018, in response to Re: Other Random Stations 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by Q4 on Fri Feb 16 13:16:12 2018. No.Since 1972, train 1501 runs to Penn Station. An AM rush train from Huntington to HPA becomes a PM rush train to Ronkonkoma |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 16 17:53:21 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Feb 15 21:09:04 2018. Then they would have had to install HEP on the GP38's. not very do-able.F40's would not fit through Jamaica Station. . |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 16 18:18:33 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 16 17:53:21 2018. I thought the GP38s provided head end power, I thought it was just the F units that were dead cabs |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 16 18:51:13 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 16 18:18:33 2018. GP38's and MP`15's had nothing. No HEP, no dynamic braking, no steam boilers. The prime movers of the FA's provided 650v HEP, good for 11 ex-MU cars. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 16 18:58:06 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 16 18:51:13 2018. Really? Then why could trains want run with two MP15 or a GP38 or two GP38 but never alone with the F unit on it. I thought the F units had their Prime movers removed. Then I thought they were also the P & MP15s |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Feb 16 19:08:36 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 16 18:58:06 2018. I think you are thinking of the 2900 series Pullman Standard coaches purchased in the early 1950s. Those cars had their own low horsepower diesel engine mounted underneath that ran a generator forthe lights/heat & A/C. Those cars were never mixed with the converted MUs. They ran unto themselves w/o any FA or MP15 powerpacks. They were usually on Pt. Jefferson trains and were in service well into the 90s. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 16 19:12:28 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 16 18:58:06 2018. P72 cars each had their own diesel generator sets. The needed nothing from the loco and were not train-lined for push-pull. They seldom ran to Oyster Bay or Greenport due to lack of turning facilities or need for 2 MP-15's back to back once FRA banned cab-forward operation.PT72 and PT72 cars still had motor-alternators requiring 650v DC HEP. The Alco FA started off with their original prime moved, but later replaced with a smaller, newer one. I don't know what the EMD F's had, but they had a prime mover of some sort. Some MP15's were modified to be either a loco or a power pack, and 169 was converted to be only a power pack. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 16 19:20:40 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Feb 16 19:08:36 2018. I am I'm talking about the up to 1990 service that was running at the end. Isn't that what we all are talking about? Sorry if I miss something |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 16 19:21:51 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 16 19:12:28 2018. Some MP15s were "P-MP15s". |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 16 19:30:00 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 16 19:20:40 2018. Both species of Pullman-Standard diesel coaches ran until early 2000. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Feb 16 19:31:29 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 16 19:21:51 2018. They placed a "P" over the number. When they at first placed it to the left of the number, FRA thought it constituted an unauthorized renumbering and went ape shit. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Feb 16 21:15:09 2018, in response to Re: Woodhaven Station 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Feb 16 08:55:59 2018. Yeah, I think they ran 1 train in each direction near the end.That might explain it.... |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Feb 16 22:49:50 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Feb 16 19:20:40 2018. "...MP15 or a GP38 or two GP38 but never alone with the F unit on it."I was thinking of why the F (powerpack) unit was not in the consist. The 2900 series Pullman Standard cars didn't need it & the F units did not have traction motors. Their prime movers were strictly for hotel power used with the converted MUs. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Feb 17 12:34:04 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Feb 15 14:58:59 2018. There's a 71 or 72 green Dodge Coronet to the left of the Pontiac. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Feb 17 14:06:40 2018, in response to Re: Montauk Branch 1990s LIRR Station Photos, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Feb 17 12:34:04 2018. It's amazing how many 70s cars were still around in the early 90s. But then again, they were all less than 20 years old then |
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