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Re: passing at speed

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Jan 2 16:42:28 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by Easy on Sun Jan 2 16:03:56 2011.

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Yeah, it's pretty straightforward: Your risk of being ticketed increases with your speed. A little over the limit: minimal risk. A lot over the limit: more risk. Grace speed based on discretion of the officer. Get the wrong officer, no "grace." If police were regularly ticketing for 1 MPH over, everyone's eyes would be glued to their speedometer instead of focused on the road.

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 2 16:44:41 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?, posted by Fred G on Sun Jan 2 12:44:13 2011.

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I am most comfortable on normal highways between 65 and 70. I don't generally drive faster than that. The 55 mph limits are ridiculous.
Even when I have been on roads where the limit is 75, I don't generally drive faster than that.

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Jan 2 16:45:28 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jan 2 16:10:13 2011.

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That is the main flaw of any minimum speed requirements: you risk some people who are more obsessed with following the laws speeding up in severe conditions to meet the minimum speed. Common sense would say don't worry about it but common sense is lacking among many.

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by Fred G on Sun Jan 2 16:47:34 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Jan 2 16:42:28 2011.

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Add to that, if your license plates don't look like all those around you, it's probably you getting pulled over and there ain't no "grace". Welcome to Outta State.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by Easy on Sun Jan 2 16:48:35 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by Fred G on Sun Jan 2 16:47:34 2011.

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lol. true

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?

Posted by Fred G on Sun Jan 2 16:50:46 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 2 16:44:41 2011.

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Same here, although once in a while I'll run up to 80. I found that setting my cruise control for just a hair under 70 results in no tickets or warnings. I like to drive invisibly.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jan 2 17:02:56 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Jan 2 16:45:28 2011.

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It's a big problem in many places, the old "farts" drive too slow.
I'll be age 69 in March, and I keep up with traffic, I can tell you.

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Jan 2 17:37:33 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?, posted by Catfish 44 on Sat Jan 1 21:15:54 2011.

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Im not sure what that Polara looks like gonna google it right now.





Bill Newkirk



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Re: passing at speed

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 2 17:40:30 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jan 2 12:41:39 2011.

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"limit" means limit as in limitation as in "cannot exceed limit".

At 54 yor are good. At 55 you are at the LIMIT of good. At 56 you have run afoul of the law.

Your post makes it seem as if everybody is obligated to do 55 even if they want to go at 50.

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 2 17:44:46 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jan 2 13:48:43 2011.

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Actually Chris is 100% right.

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 2 17:48:53 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 2 12:37:42 2011.

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It also depends on weather and traffic conditions.

Going 65 in a 55 during heavy rain and traffic is different than going 67 in a 55 on a beautiful moderately trafficked day.

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 2 17:51:35 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jan 2 13:25:31 2011.

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only if its posted.



So you are saying that 55 is both the maximum and minimum limit in such a case?

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Taken That Hill at 96th St on the SB HHP?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 2 18:16:06 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Taken That Hill at 96th St on the SB HHP?, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 1 22:50:59 2011.

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bump

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 2 18:17:08 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jan 2 12:20:29 2011.

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No, that makes no sense. You have to be wrong. It is completely unreasonable and irrational to expect everyone to go the same speed all the time.

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 2 18:28:15 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 2 17:44:46 2011.

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Everyone here is right and tunnelrat is wrong.

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 2 18:30:24 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?, posted by Fred G on Sun Jan 2 16:50:46 2011.

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I set my cruise control to between 70 and 73 MPH, depending on how concerned I am about getting pulled over at the time.

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 2 18:31:42 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?, posted by Easy on Sun Jan 2 13:03:43 2011.

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One reason for artificially low speed limits are to protect the people who don't know how to drive that well. The rest of us could go much faster, safely, if allowed.

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jan 2 18:36:57 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Jan 2 16:45:28 2011.

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Biggest problem with posted minimum speeds , could you get ticket when stopped or below speed in rest of traffic ???
What would be exseptions ?

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Jan 2 18:39:14 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 2 12:12:25 2011.

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Most highways in have a minimum speed of 40 if the speed limit is 55, there's signs usually next to the speed limit signs.



While I vaguely remember seeing them elsewhere, the only place that stands out to me is the L.I.E. I remember that clearly because I remember laughing to myslef how in the rush hours it's probably hard to even go the minimum! :-)

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Jan 2 18:49:37 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 2 18:17:08 2011.

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It is completely unreasonable and irrational to expect everyone to go the same speed all the time.


The closest I have ever seen that done was in Los Angeles the one time I visited there in the late 80's. In the non rush hours, everybody was doing a steady 70 on the 405 freeway, and not speeding up or slowing down like they do around here. I remember that because at one point we were in one of the center lanes and we needed to get over to the right for an upcoming exit. There was a car in the lane next to us on the right, and he was about 2 car lengths behind us. We were able to move over with no problem. If we were anywhere else, that car would have most likely sped up and either hit us or would have had to slam on the brakes to avoid us. For the record, I wasn't the one driving... :-)

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?

Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Jan 2 19:29:31 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?, posted by Train Dude on Fri Dec 31 21:17:06 2010.

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The push button transmission on the Valiant was very problematic.
I heard a story when I was a kid about the push buttons falling into the box. I guess something broke behind them , like a spring.

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 2 19:56:42 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 2 17:40:30 2011.

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His post doesn't "sound" like that, that is actually what he was saying! At first Easy and I thought it must be the way he wrote it, but he really meant that!

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 2 19:58:56 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Jan 2 18:36:57 2011.

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No. The law states it's based on conditions on the road. For example, a cop can pull you over for going 50 (in a 55) on a snow covered road where driving like that would be reckless.
Similarly, you obviously aren't going to get pulled over for going "20" in traffic conditions in a Minimum 40.

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 2 20:01:18 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 2 17:51:35 2011.

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LOL, yes, that is what he was trying to say, and it's ridiculous.

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car within NYC limits?

Posted by N6 Limited on Sun Jan 2 20:03:43 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car within NYC limits?, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 1 22:45:02 2011.

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*high five*

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car within NYC limits?

Posted by N6 Limited on Sun Jan 2 20:04:34 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car within NYC limits?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 1 07:44:09 2011.

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I do 70 on the JR Parkway except by the cemetary.

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car within NYC limits?

Posted by N6 Limited on Sun Jan 2 20:06:46 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car within NYC limits?, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 1 22:46:16 2011.

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Wow that's true, there really is no place for them to hide on the BQE.

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jan 2 20:27:47 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Jan 2 18:39:14 2011.

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on sunrise h`way.in lynbrook .E&W/B 40 mph.sunrise h`way valley stream w/b 45mph[down from 55mph in the last few months]to the city line.e/b from city line to lynbrook 40mph.both are posted.

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Taken That Hill at 96th St on the SB HHP?

Posted by gOlD_12tH on Sun Jan 2 20:48:56 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Taken That Hill at 96th St on the SB HHP?, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 2 18:16:06 2011.

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you should hump at a car.

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?

Posted by gOlD_12tH on Sun Jan 2 20:50:11 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jan 1 22:34:05 2011.

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drama whore

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Taken That Hill at 96th St on the SB HHP?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jan 2 21:26:15 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Taken That Hill at 96th St on the SB HHP?, posted by gOlD_12tH on Sun Jan 2 20:48:56 2011.

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?

Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jan 2 21:46:10 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Dec 31 15:18:28 2010.

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That must have been pretty loud!

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 2 21:59:25 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 2 18:28:15 2011.

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If Tunnelrat is wrong then everyone here can't be right because he is included in "everyone here."

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 3 06:08:31 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jan 2 21:59:25 2011.

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He is the exception to the rule. There is almost always one.

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car within NYC limits?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 3 06:17:14 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car within NYC limits?, posted by N6 Limited on Sun Jan 2 20:03:43 2011.

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*down low*

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car within NYC limits?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 3 06:17:36 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car within NYC limits?, posted by N6 Limited on Sun Jan 2 20:06:46 2011.

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Yep.

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 3 06:18:10 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Jan 2 21:46:10 2011.

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Nah.

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jan 3 07:59:09 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by Fred G on Sun Jan 2 12:38:48 2011.

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Here they're just not around at rush hour. When they are it's a mess from everyone stomping on their brakes to avoid being caught.

Staties should never be visible at rush hours. It pisses me off when the Mass. troopers are camped out on the side of I-95 or 128 at 6 a.m., and everyone slows from 40 to 25.

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by Fred G on Mon Jan 3 08:03:27 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jan 3 07:59:09 2011.

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Exactly they do more harm than good.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?

Posted by Howard Fein on Mon Jan 3 11:11:58 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Jan 1 08:13:58 2011.

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NY135 and NY27 east of Babylon could also easily be 60 or 65. Back in the late 60s or early 70s before the energy crisis mandated the nationwide 55 limit, 135 allowed 60. The LIE allowed 60 throughout Nassau County.

Pennsylvania Turnpike's Northeast Extension allows 65 between Scranton and Allentown. That seemed excessive, as there are only two lanes in each direction and the two carriageways are separated by a very narrow median. That seems to be the case on the mainline Turnpike as well.

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?

Posted by Howard Fein on Mon Jan 3 11:21:44 2011, in response to What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Dec 30 17:27:35 2010.

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Guess I'm a wimp compared to the rest of you. The fastest I can recall driving was 80-85 in my 2002 Honda Accord on a steep downgrade on southbound I-83 about to cross the state line from Pennsylvania to Maryland. This fact was called to my attention by a passenger.

Back in the early 70s my Dad noticed he was hitting 90 in a rental car on I-25 somewhere south of Albuquerque. Other vehicles were passing us freely.



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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?

Posted by Howard Fein on Mon Jan 3 11:26:19 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?, posted by AlM on Fri Dec 31 16:36:38 2010.

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Whenever I drive NY440 a/k/a the West Shore Expressway at 60, other vehicles blur past me. The Belt between Sheepshead Bay and Howard Beach used to be very good for speed at those rare times when there wasn't much traffic or construction.

The Clearview, Korean Vets Parkway (formerly Richmond Parkway), the elevated Gowanus straightaway, and possibly the Bronx River Parkway north of Pelham/Fordham are really the only other stretches of limited access highway within city limits to offer good speed- traffic conditions notwithstanding.

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?

Posted by Howard Fein on Mon Jan 3 11:29:07 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Dec 31 13:56:23 2010.

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Casino buses along the NJTP, Garden State and Connecticut's I-95 seem to routinely exceed 80. I believe buses are allowed in the left lane of certain New Jersey highways, but not in NYS or Connecticut. The drivers routinely ignore this regulation.

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car within NYC limits?

Posted by N6 Limited on Mon Jan 3 11:43:15 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car within NYC limits?, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 3 06:17:36 2011.

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Do they do the ride-along patrols on that road?

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 3 11:45:27 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?, posted by Howard Fein on Mon Jan 3 11:26:19 2011.

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Yes. Even the Cross Bronx is easy to get good speed on, but of course, that's only on that rare occasion when there isn't as much traffic.

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Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 3 11:46:50 2011, in response to Re: What is the Fastest You Have Traveled in a Car?, posted by Howard Fein on Mon Jan 3 11:29:07 2011.

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Buses are allowed in the left lane on the LI Expressway, but that's because they are also allowed in the HOV lane.

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by tunnelrat on Mon Jan 3 12:31:03 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by monorail on Sun Jan 2 15:04:35 2011.

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as fast as the POSTED sign sez.

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by tunnelrat on Mon Jan 3 12:34:04 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jan 2 17:51:35 2011.

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yup.

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 3 12:44:59 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by tunnelrat on Mon Jan 3 12:34:04 2011.

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But it's not.

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Re: passing at speed

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 3 12:45:48 2011, in response to Re: passing at speed, posted by tunnelrat on Mon Jan 3 12:31:03 2011.

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Incorrect. It would be dangerous and stupid to only go the posted speed limit when passing on a two lane road. So you are wrong.

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