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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 5 16:43:42 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 5 16:39:58 2006. As I said, there are businesses, and there are businesses. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Dec 5 17:44:14 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 5 13:36:40 2006. She is HOTT!!! But what does this have to do with NASCAR. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Dec 5 17:45:11 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 5 13:41:00 2006. So do I but I like to look at pretty blondes too. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Dec 5 17:45:18 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 5 13:36:40 2006. Oh hell to the yea. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 5 17:47:29 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 5 13:41:00 2006. Sorry |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Dec 5 17:49:09 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 5 12:25:51 2006. Islip on Long Island hosted nationally televised FIGURE 8 RACES for years. ***S*U*I*C*I*D*E***R*A*C*I*N*G*** NASCAR IS FOR PUSSIES. My brother used to look forweard to the ISLIP races on Wide World of Sports when we were kids back in the days of ERIE LACKAWANNA. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Dec 5 17:55:13 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Dec 5 13:58:26 2006. TRUTH. Mortgage slaves are the #1 source of NIMBYISM. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Dec 5 17:56:28 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 5 16:30:39 2006. A Mature response. but most single family homeowners would disagree with you. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Dec 5 17:57:07 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 5 17:47:29 2006. She's HOTT!!! too. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 5 18:00:05 2006, in response to New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Dec 5 10:31:26 2006. pleeeeeze! When I bought this house in 1984, I regretted it the first saturday night we were here. The noise from Islip Speedway was nerve-wracking. Fortunately, Islip raceway ceased operation in that year and now it's been relatively tranquil for the last 20+. The last thing we need is a raceway - unless you enclose it and sound-proof the building. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 5 18:05:51 2006, in response to New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Dec 5 10:31:26 2006. King of the Irrelevant. Try getting out of the house more—even though it's cold outside . . . (you didn't do it when it was warm) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 5 18:51:22 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by BIE on Tue Dec 5 17:49:09 2006. When I bought my current house in May, 1984, I regretted it the first saturday night we were here. The noise from Islip Speedway was nerve-wracking. Fortunately, Islip raceway ceased operation in that year and now it's been relatively tranquil for the last 20+. The last thing we need is a raceway - unless you enclose it and sound-proof the building. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Dec 5 19:47:11 2006, in response to New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Dec 5 10:31:26 2006. How's this ? A NASCAR track opens up in Staten Island with race cars fitted with M-7 seats driven by alpha males. That would change you mind!Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 5 21:40:59 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 5 13:55:25 2006. And not even CREATIVE anachronisms. :) |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Dec 5 23:41:44 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by BIE on Tue Dec 5 17:56:28 2006. A NASCAR track isn't a "bad neighbor" because it isn't used that much. You only get the big Nextel Cup crowds once a year.My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Tue Dec 5 23:53:09 2006, in response to New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Dec 5 10:31:26 2006. Peter I often agree with many of your postings, but on this issue I have to take umbridge.First, of all you need to get a grip on yourself....the fanancial fate of New York City (still the greatest in the World IMHO) does not rest on Staten Island getting a NASCAR track or the opening of a Wal-Mart store. There are enough reasons for people to come to our city....one of which is the famous subway system, Empire State Building, Wall Street, Central Park, etc., etc. If it comes down to NYC needing NASCAR to stave off fanancial ruin.....then that would be a VERY SAD situation indeed with bacially all hope lost. And I doubt there will ever be such a scenerio. Relax and enjoy a good seegar...it'll help you mellow out. That's my motto. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Dec 6 00:02:05 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by BMT Guy on Tue Dec 5 23:53:09 2006. He needs to get himself a hookah. :) |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Dec 6 00:30:40 2006, in response to New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Dec 5 10:31:26 2006. New York is doomed?because you build a ''race track'' for auto racing ? i dont see the gloom and doom in that !! maybe a lot of noise !! ! |
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Posted by American Pig on Wed Dec 6 03:39:23 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 5 13:30:24 2006. NASCAR cars suck. Anybody who's really into cars would realize that it's a poor excuse for auto racing. |
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Posted by American Pig on Wed Dec 6 03:43:32 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Dec 6 00:30:40 2006. You're an imbecile. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Dec 6 04:14:47 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by American Pig on Wed Dec 6 03:39:23 2006. would you prefer rthe indy 500or formula european type racing vehicles ?? |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Dec 6 08:42:19 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Dec 5 23:41:44 2006. Wrong, Peter.You don't build a 80,000 seat arena for just a single event. The down side to an 80,000 seat arena are the horrendous traffic problem that accompanies events, plus the massive land that is used just for parking (the mall parking syndrome, more land is used for parking than the stores). |
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Posted by BMTlines on Wed Dec 6 09:59:04 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Dec 6 08:42:19 2006. You don't build a 80,000 seat arena for just a single event.What about that stupid tennis stadium in Queens? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 6 11:05:36 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by American Pig on Tue Dec 5 12:01:06 2006. Los Angeles lacks an NFL franchise. Do you feel this makes it a second class city?And of course, neither does New York. We have the New Jersey Jets and the New Jersey Giants because friggen NY can never get it's act in gear. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 6 11:09:00 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by American Pig on Tue Dec 5 12:01:06 2006. Los Angeles lacks an NFL franchise. Do you feel this makes it a second class city?Haha, and LA has to do the NY thing like having the nerve to call the Jets and Giants, "New York Jets or Giants" instead of the East Rutherford Jets or Giants..... just like Los Angeles has the ordacity to call the Anaheim Angels the "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim", which would be akin to calling something in Suffolk county the "New York XXXXX of Babylon" |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 6 11:13:48 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 5 18:00:05 2006. pleeeeeze! When I bought this house in 1984, I regretted it the first saturday night we were here. The noise from Islip Speedway was nerve-wracking. Fortunately, Islip raceway ceased operation in that year and now it's been relatively tranquil for the last 20+.No offense, but you DID know it was there before you bought the house, no? I find a problem when people complain about something that was there before they move in. Such as people in Cedarhurst complaining about the trains rumbling through their community, trains that have been rumbling through for 100 years. Or the people in Yaphank in fancy new subdivisions complaining about the shooting range that has been there from day one, or the people out east in fancy subdivisions complainging about the irrigation sprinklers going on in the middle of the night, or the tractors starting up at 4:00 in the morning on farms that have been there for long before they were. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Dec 6 11:17:33 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by American Pig on Wed Dec 6 03:39:23 2006. NASCAR cars suck. Anybody who's really into cars would realize that it's a poor excuse for auto racing.Doesn't matter. NASCAR is a hugely popular sport. Anyway, the lameness of a sport has little to do with its popularity. Look at the NFL, the world's richest and most successful sports league. A typical NFL game, according to people who've timed them with stop watches, has about 12 minutes of ball-in-play action, yet spans 3+ hours. My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by mambomta on Wed Dec 6 11:21:01 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 6 11:09:00 2006. just like Los Angeles has the ordacity to call the Anaheim Angels the "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim", which would be akin to calling something in Suffolk county the "New York XXXXX of Babylon"New York XXXXX of Babylon would be completely accurate unless Babylon or Suffolk County succeeds from the State of NY. I'm not familiar with California so I cannot comment on the Angels thing. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 6 12:03:45 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by mambomta on Wed Dec 6 11:21:01 2006. Los Angeles is a city, and Anaheim is a "city". Anaheim is Both are in California, but they are named for the city. The New York Giants and Jets are named for New York City, just as the Buffalo Bills are named for their city in New York State.The "New York XXXX of Babylon" is akin to saying the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. Anaheim is about 35 miles (give or take) from Los Angeles, like Babylon is to New York City (give or take). |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Dec 6 13:00:18 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 6 11:05:36 2006. New York stuck New Jersey with the costs of "subsidized sports" and that's a DOWNSIDE? :)If ONLY we could get STEINGRABBER to move to Vermont. Heh. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 6 13:32:13 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by American Pig on Wed Dec 6 03:39:23 2006. It was explained to me that while the cars do use a lot of old technology, the engineering involved to maximize the potential of that old technology for each specific track, while staying within the applicable rules, is interesting and a big part of the draw, perhaps for the more engineering-inclined fans. |
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Posted by Scrabbleship on Wed Dec 6 14:22:39 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Dec 6 13:00:18 2006. If only M. Donald Grant didn't basically bar the Jets from playing home games in September back during his mid-70s reign of terror that nearly killed the Mets. |
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Posted by BIE on Wed Dec 6 16:28:01 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Train Dude on Tue Dec 5 18:51:22 2006. You can hear a racetrack for MILES. When they are racing at the Fairgrounds, I can hear it 3-1/2 miles away. |
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Posted by zdeno on Wed Dec 6 18:30:54 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Dec 5 13:56:10 2006. It also probably has the worst dental state in the union and highest incest rate. |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Wed Dec 6 18:35:05 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Dec 6 00:02:05 2006. Oh....BEHAVE!!!!! :-o |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Wed Dec 6 18:47:09 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Charles G on Tue Dec 5 12:50:43 2006. LOL! |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Wed Dec 6 18:48:44 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Dec 5 13:44:20 2006. Where's THE PROFF?!Or to borrow a quote from Tom Cruise: "SHOW ME THE MONEY!" |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Dec 6 18:49:27 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Dec 6 08:42:19 2006. That's why I advocate parking garages. Besides, those things get used more than once a year, depending on what you can bring in. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Dec 6 18:51:28 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Dec 5 14:14:34 2006. I always had a feeling that any greater good was irrelevant in land use decisions. Now I see it spelled out. |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Wed Dec 6 20:11:11 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Dec 6 04:14:47 2006. Naa...I prefer to watch REAL car racing: demolition derby on the Belt Parkway! LOL! NOW THAT'S ACTION! |
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Posted by American Pig on Wed Dec 6 20:19:21 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 6 11:05:36 2006. No, those count as New York teams, the Meadowlands is close enough to the city. Just as a team from Anaheim would count as an LA team. The fact that the Meadowlands is in a different state can't be compared with anything in LA because LA is hundreds of miles from the nearest other state. |
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Posted by American Pig on Wed Dec 6 20:24:03 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 6 11:09:00 2006. There is no particular requirement that a team named after a city play within the city limits. The Miami Dolphins do not play in the City of Miami. |
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Posted by American Pig on Wed Dec 6 20:29:58 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by American Pig on Wed Dec 6 20:24:03 2006. And if you give me the technicality that the Dolphins at least play in Miami-Dade County (as if any team is named after its county), the Washington Redskins do not play in Washington, they play in Maryland. Also, the Detroit Pistons do not play in Detroit. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 6 21:29:03 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by American Pig on Wed Dec 6 20:24:03 2006. There is no particular requirement that a team named after a city play within the city limits.I didn't say there was. I only brought it up because it's sort of funny that New York couldn't keep either of it's football teams in not only the city, but not even the state! The Los Angeles Angels was only brought up as a comparison, because it too sounds funny if you ask me, "The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim" is their official name (not that there's anything wrong with that). |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 6 21:33:11 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by American Pig on Wed Dec 6 20:19:21 2006. I was more making fun of the fact that they recently changed the name of the Angels to the "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim". The big joke in New York is that it's the "New Jersey Giants and the New Jersey Jets" (not that there's anything wrong with that), as yes, the Meadowlands, just as a lof ot New Jersey is a suburb of New York City, just as Anaheim is basically a suburb city of Los Angeles. |
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Posted by American Pig on Wed Dec 6 22:47:07 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 6 21:29:03 2006. The fact that it's in a different state doesn't matter. New York is located on the border with a different state. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Dec 6 23:18:38 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 6 21:29:03 2006. I don't understand why the Angels dropped their original "California" name. The current name is ridiculous.My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by Market-Frankford on Wed Dec 6 23:38:04 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Dec 5 10:43:26 2006. Even though New Yorkers are more hostile towards everybody. |
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Posted by Market-Frankford on Wed Dec 6 23:38:51 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by Peter Rosa on Tue Dec 5 10:43:26 2006. And you don't need a car to get around the 3 other places mentioned either. |
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Posted by Market-Frankford on Wed Dec 6 23:42:46 2006, in response to Re: New York is doomed - more proof, posted by BMT Guy on Tue Dec 5 23:53:09 2006. Who in their right mind would come to New York because of Central Park? |
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