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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 29 18:23:10 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 29 17:26:11 2020. LOL so predictable. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 29 18:26:30 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 29 17:52:59 2020. I listed for-profit healthcare for reasons that will be horrifyingly apparent in about three weeks or so. Our society is about to learn, brutally, why our healthcare delivery system is so dangerous. The short version is:1. It's designed to prioritize money over human life. 2. A person's social status (wealth, race, prominence, sexual orientation, gender identity) decisively determines the level of care they receive, and how much care they receive. 3. The system actively discourages its use. We're gonna learn real soon. (I am aware that I myself have little or no social "value" in the scheme of things. As a gay, average-income, mixed-race man over 50, my coronavirus survival probability where patients > available medical resources, is close to zero.) |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 29 18:31:35 2020, in response to Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 29 16:13:04 2020. 1) Pandemic2) The census |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 29 18:34:33 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Mar 29 18:09:20 2020. Where are garden centers, parks, and BBQ's in full swing? Not in NYC and Long Island which is a ghost town |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 29 18:36:34 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 29 18:26:30 2020. Pitifully predictable rationale.In otherwise sexual reassignment surgery should be free. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 29 18:38:34 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Mar 29 18:09:20 2020. I hope that the rumors about 3000 ventilators in storage in NY while patients are doubled up, is just a rumor. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 29 18:42:17 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 29 18:36:34 2020. You know what? As the number of coronavirus patients continues to skyrocket, there will come a time when the patient population exceeds the number of available medical personnel and equipment by several factors. At that point, social triage will become a reality. Senior citizens will be among the first to be denied lifesaving resources, right along with the marginalized segments of society.You're in just as much trouble as I am, if you contract this virus and need critical care. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 29 18:48:37 2020, in response to Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 29 16:13:04 2020. I'd change a few, like :1. Pandemic. Not only because it’s happening, but the fact that we were unable to do anything proactive about this one. 2. Environmental catastrophe. The loss of land to rising sea levels, climate change due to warm increasing desertification and the disruption to agriculture pose a greater threat to humainty's survival including disruption due to migration,.famine and... 3. War 4. The re+emergence of fascist and reactionary groups and their finding their way into government. That's not just domestic, it’s happening in spots all over the Western world. 5. Foreign source terrorism. Just my two cents. Your priorities aren’t entirely hitting the right notes. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 29 18:54:15 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 29 18:42:17 2020. Don't waste your time with the troll. Risk-boy denies he’s high risk, and thinks it'll never happen to him. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Mar 29 19:04:52 2020, in response to Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 29 16:13:04 2020. 1. Facebook2. Cell Phones 3. Electric cars 4. Steven Colbert 5. Certain Subchat Posters |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 29 19:07:05 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 29 17:15:15 2020. "40% of the country thinks that the most disgusting human being ever to be President of the United States is doing a great job"More like 60% according to Gallup. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 29 19:21:53 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 29 18:31:35 2020. I was joking about the census as no.2 because of Salaam. But in reality my ranking is:1) Pandemic 2) Man made global warming 3) Foreign terrorism (domestic terrorism is a threat but not a big enough national threat) 4) Education failures |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 29 19:23:53 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Mar 29 18:09:20 2020. Pinellas County us one of the strictest quarantine counties.They are even closing boat launches and fining boaters who aren't 10 feet apart in the Bay. Gotta raise revenue and find ways to incarcerate people. That how they think. Most chin up bars and swings have yellow tape everywhere in the country. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 29 19:31:08 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 29 18:42:17 2020. I didn't refer to you nor do I worry about your visions of my potential risk factors. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 29 19:35:47 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by bingbong on Sun Mar 29 18:54:15 2020. On the contrary, I'm limiting my risks but you underestimate yours. Remember, the term, cancer survivor, is only based on a statistic of long-term remission. Remission is not the same as cure. You, my overweight love interest are at a statistically higher risk than I am. But I pray for you. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Mar 29 19:44:44 2020, in response to Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 29 16:13:04 2020. Currently (as in, this week):(1) Pandemic. This has subsections: (a) Social isolation triggered suicide / domestic violence (b) Media generating fear and societal unrest (c) China actively trying to undermine the west's response to position themselves better economically. In the next few months: (1) Economic unrest triggering riots and looting (already happening in Italy). This will force us down one of two equally bad paths. Path 1: (a) Crimes committed by the thousands of criminals released to de-crowd prisons. (b) Right wing extremism dealing with the above [street militias] Path 2: Martial Law (2) Calls for socialism by the ignorant. (3) Cold War with China. I am not worried about international terrorism after ISIS issued a directive to not Jihad in Europe due to the virus. I assume since that article was written that directive has been expanded to the US. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 29 19:48:55 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 29 18:26:30 2020. 1. It's designed to prioritize money over human life.I agree. It ain't volunteer work. And who wants healthy patients? The system wants more sick than healthy people. That's a big part of the reason why advice on cholesterol and fat intake is embraced by doctors, big pharma, and blood labs. 2. A person's social status (wealth, race, prominence, sexual orientation, gender identity) decisively determines the level of care they receive, and how much care they receive. Like Steve Jobs and Luke Perry? It's lower income areas that are getting a disproportionate amount of emergency clinics and pharmacies and meds. Several middle-class people here listed all the fucking drugs they're on for metabolic disease. 3. The system actively discourages its use. We're gonna learn real soon. (I am aware that I myself have little or no social "value" in the scheme of things. As a gay, average-income, mixed-race man over 50, my coronavirus survival probability where patients > available medical resources, is close to zero.) ? Gays have higher value than ever. If you are likely to die from COVID because you're gay it's because your immune system is already weakened. And it makes sense that it would be. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Mar 29 20:12:30 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by rkba on Sun Mar 29 17:05:48 2020. And That is the fucking problem with you.The Need to divert Real shit for the country wide bullshit you fucktards love to keep going. KNOWING FULL WELL none of your political blathering makes One fucking ounce of sense RIGHT Now! You Know, sunshine boy, if I Were a "liberal", you'd surely know it. But, since this is your fucking smoke and mirrors trick...have at it. Show Me how much of a "Liberal" I am. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 29 20:15:54 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Edwards! on Sun Mar 29 20:12:30 2020. he didn't call you a "liberal". He called you a LEFTIST.AlM is a liberal Scrabbleship is a leftist |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Mar 29 20:16:14 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Mar 29 17:52:25 2020. What you figure?I'm not some fucking sheep to go along with the business of political spin? NO thanks! You Devils fucked up the World enough as it is. Fucked it Up! You! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Mar 29 20:18:32 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Mar 29 18:09:20 2020. And You would know this, like how?You barely venture out of your basement. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 29 20:21:28 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Edwards! on Sun Mar 29 20:18:32 2020. he lives in Pinellas county. They don't have basements. What kind of an idiot would build with basements in Florida? Especially Pinellas. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 29 20:28:56 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 29 16:49:35 2020. No, they don’t. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 29 20:30:34 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 29 17:07:21 2020. LOL! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 29 20:36:17 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 29 20:30:34 2020. I know. You have to LOL! because the points I make are so valid you can't debate them.Bill Ayers is a domestic terrorist and becomes a University professor. The Left can do fucked up shit and be accepted into the mainstream when it's over. Especially if it's Leftist activity. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 29 20:48:45 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 29 20:36:17 2020. The Left runs academia and the Right runs the government. Yeah, the right got the raw end of that deal. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 29 20:53:55 2020, in response to Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 29 16:13:04 2020. 1) Terrorist attack2)Economic collapse/depression 3)Voters buying into Bernie Sanders/AOC type leadership 4)Political Correctness overtaking our culture 5)Nationwide Amazon strike (don't laugh) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 29 22:48:22 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 29 19:21:53 2020. Thank you for finally including global warming. I disagree about foreign terrorism because I think it’s a minor threat. You’re more likely to drown in a toilet.Not sure what you mean by 4. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 29 22:49:58 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Mar 29 19:04:52 2020. What do you have against electric cars? |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Mar 29 23:00:58 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 29 22:49:58 2020. You realize the whole list is a joke. I had a feeling you’d say something about electric cars though. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sun Mar 29 23:20:23 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 29 18:26:30 2020. "As a gay, average-income, mixed-race man over 50, my coronavirus survival probability where patients available medical resources, is close to zero."boy oh boy. knowing you personally must be a painful experience. is that how you go through life? "hey. by the way, i'm a gay, average-income, mixed-race man over 50,..." let's see if i can swim through that pile of cotton: 1. why would you think anybody on this planet besides yourself wants to know what gets your dick hard? 2. who gives a flying phuck about your income?? 3. what does your "race" or "races" have to do with ANYTHING regarding this affliction-that-seperates-the-men-from-the-weaklings? seriously, you can't sutmise how elitist you sound? "hey, i'm a gay, average-income, mixed-race man over 50,..." see, forget the pussy virus scare...knowing that you go about your life thinking "hey, i'm a gay, average-income, mixed-race man over 50,..." is a huge part of the reason most people hate being associated with fags. you can't be a regular guy, if for some reason someone asks you what you are you can't just say something like well, mainly, i'm just a dude trying to make it. oh no, with you it has to be "i'm a gay, average-income, mixed-race man over 50,...". as if any of that means anything. how boring you must be. it's no wonder you go for other self-absorbed twits like yourself. what woman worth her salt would EVER feel attracted to such a mess? knowing that there are "men" like you roaming the streets makes me want to literally vomit. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 29 23:32:15 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Mar 29 18:26:30 2020. 2. A person's social status (wealth, race, prominence, sexual orientation, gender identity) decisively determines the level of care they receive, and how much care they receive.Wealth: True Race: True only if black. Prominence: You mean how tall a person is? 😂 Sexual orientation: Maybe although I don't recall this ever coming up. Gender identity: Believable. I think that you left off a big one, ability to speak English is important depending on where you are. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 29 23:36:53 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Mar 29 23:00:58 2020. Well, yeah, but still. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 30 01:50:35 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 29 20:53:55 2020. Nationwide Amazon strike (don't laugh)Why not laugh? Where are Amazon workers unionized? |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 30 01:54:35 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Mar 29 20:53:55 2020. 3) is terrifying because of how likely it is, especially if 2) happens.I actually think 4) is moving in the other direction. Between comedians ignoring PC norms, "get woke go broke" being true more often than not, and this virus making all that PC nonsense seem petty, Political Correctness is on its death bed. Another big part of this is "woke" media outlets going bankrupt and failing... it was on a downward spiral before, but now that advertising revenue has plummeted any that were still on venture capital are underwater and will be bankrupt by June. The irony is that because so many brands refused to advertise on politically incorrect right wing news/commentary sites, they were forced to develop paid subscriber revenue streams and thus are largely insulated from the sudden drop in ad prices. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 30 01:56:48 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 30 01:54:35 2020. 3 is not as likely as the media wants you to believe. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Mar 30 02:25:37 2020, in response to Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 29 16:13:04 2020. Carnies. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Mar 30 02:57:37 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Mon Mar 30 01:54:35 2020. I"m "woke" when it comes toWomen Diet and nutrition Romance and relationship Exercise Aviation |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Mar 30 03:42:22 2020, in response to Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 29 16:13:04 2020. 1. Agenda-driven media2. Everything else |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Mar 30 04:39:40 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 29 23:32:15 2020. "Prominence" = celebrities, elected officials, major religious leadersSexual orientation: there is still plenty of anti-LGBTQ bias in the US healthcare system. For example, gay men are stilbilitil prohibited from donating blood if they've had sex with another man in the past year. This is still in effect, despite today's extensive blood screening and testing capabilities. LGBTQ patients in general often encounter judgmental doctors and nurses, and the value judgment of these providers can and does impact their care. (How do doctors and hospitals find out if you're LGBTQ? If you're gay or lesbian, you might list a same-sex partner as your emergency contact. If you're trans, it's part of your medical history. ) Language barriers are way down the list, because they are common, especially in big cities like NYC. Before that becomes a decisive factor in your care, the other five criteria I mentioned, will have already decided your fate. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 30 05:32:09 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Mar 30 04:39:40 2020. You want to risk contracting HIV via blood transfusion, I sure as hell do not. No test can 100% correctly screen for it. The limitation is necessary to prevent infected blood from being used on a patient. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Mar 30 05:49:44 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 30 05:32:09 2020. 1. Gay men aren't the only people that get HIV.2. Bloodborne pathogen (BBP) screening procedures have made four decades of progress since this policy went into effect, and all donated blood undergoes multiple checks before it ends up in the blood bank. The only thing the current ban on blood donation from non-celibate gay men dies today, is reinforce the false stigma that gay men are "dirty" and "diseased". |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Mar 30 06:22:22 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by JayZeeBMT on Mon Mar 30 05:49:44 2020. IV Drug users and other “at risk” categories can’t donate so it is not just Gay men.Procedures have improved but until they are 100% certain I am fine with making it impossible for it to reach blood bank |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Mar 30 06:57:47 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 29 20:21:28 2020. he lives in Pinellas county. They don't have basements. What kind of an idiot would build with basements in Florida? Especially Pinellas.High water table or flood zone ? Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Mar 30 07:14:43 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Mar 29 18:34:33 2020. You got 56 other states. Locally I see gripping everyday. I see people complaining five to six hundred miles away too in other states.And, unlike Europe, or China, no one is telling you to stay in New York. I see a lot of griping of New Yorkers coming to Florida, and doing everything but self-isolating for 14 days. Hence the reason why the US may be the epicentre longer than other 1st world nations. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Mar 30 07:19:40 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Train Dude on Sun Mar 29 18:38:34 2020. Last night I saw yet another criminal Airline mistake.An infected couple was released from the quarantine center outside Atlanta and allowed to go to the airport and board a plane to wherever. They were still positive. This has happened I don't know how many dozens of times now. Maybe hundreds of times as I've heard that when the outbreak first started, people were flabberghasted that there was no screenings for travelers from China. These are your employees who absolutely cannot think for themselves and double-check and question their bosses. If they screw up,they're just following orders. I can totally see 3000 ventilators in storage, and a lot of people having seen them and just moved on. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Mar 30 07:20:36 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 29 23:36:53 2020. I have no issue with electric cars. They’re very impressive. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Mar 30 07:22:41 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Mar 29 23:00:58 2020. It's a joke? It looks pretty accurate as per experts in the field. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Mar 30 07:24:15 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by AlM on Sun Mar 29 16:47:39 2020. "Left wing extremists are incompetent - what do you actually fear from them?"Good thing there's "social distancing". I usually use this as a place to post 5 of this weeks left-wing murdering terrorists, so you can ignore it, hide and cry in the shower, and post this garbage yet again. AIM - the most pwn3d!!! poster of the board. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Mar 30 07:27:39 2020, in response to Re: Rank our biggest national threats, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Mar 29 19:44:44 2020. Terror groups from Turkey have called for jihad in Europe to spread the virus as a weapon.No left-wing commies are a problem? Just riots and looting in Italy? They have cops fighting cops in China, and unrest in 3 other countries. All of this focus on Italy and Italians singing on balconies is a glaring example of the media's white supremacy. Stuff is happening everywhere. And I'm glad someone else sees the major China kiss ups. Their flags are everywhere now. |
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