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Posted by 3-9 on Thu May 8 11:23:36 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu May 8 09:09:12 2014. Nice job trying to equate two completely unrelated concepts and hoping I won't notice.Nope, they're 2 very related concepts. And they're related in that Israel is the only country that has a completely open door policy towards Jews, a concept you find unimportant. Only the Jews have actually succeeded in having a country purpose-built for them. Again, why don't you try looking for Yugoslavia, Czeckslovakia, etc. As an extra assignment, why don't you try looking at the predominant populations in the countries that replaced them. Remind me how Jews are so oppressed again? Again, at the time they just suffered through a Holocaust partly because the nations of the world closed their doors to them. There were other Jewish populations around the world and anti-Semitism was alive and well. Would you still leave your fate in the hands of those very same countries? Or would you take action to make sure there will be one place that would never close their doors to your demographic? Your view is like from someone who has never known what it's like to have the world turn their back on you. You're nitpicking. "Exclusive use" is a deliberate exaggeration for dramatic effect. Hey, you're the one who stated it, not me. Any other deliberate exaggerations? Muslims, Arabs, and Christians are allowed to live there, but their right to do so is curtailed so as to preserve a majority population of a decidedly unpopular religion. How are the non-Jewish citizens of Israel curtailed? Forced birth control? Forced abortions? Limits on number of children? Apples to oranges. In all of those cases, two demographics living in one geographical area didn't like each other, so they drew a line down the middle of the area to create one country for one demographic and a second for the other. Gee, that sounds awfully familiar! It sounds just like - the creation of Israel! Of course, I think it's safe to assume the "line down the middle" is figurative. Israel is a geographical area set aside for an entire demographic's worldwide population— a house party to which all of Demographic A is invited, not merely a line down the middle of the house to prevent disputes between its two residents. It's more of a country than a geographical area, but yes. I'm rolling my eyes, given that I just had to point out that the Republican party was a terrorist organisation and/or that they're supporting a Christian theocracy to people on your side of this very argument. (Possibly you yourself, I can't be bothered to check.) And the fact that they (d)evolved into what they are now is a sign of historical progress? Refugees from genocide are still more likely to be accepted. If not, there are plenty of other countries to try— France, South Africa, Australia, Israel, Canada, take your pick. Except for one of them, none of them have a guarantee that you will be allowed into the country. Except for Israel (which didn't exist at the time) and maybe South Africa (which was still a colony), all of them have blocked your demographic at least once. But you'd still trust them to take you and your family if your demographic found it necessary to pack up and leave en masse? That's very trusting. *rolls eyes* If you're really worried that other countries will shut their doors, you should agree with my opposition to exclusive birthright citizenship. Or you can make sure that there is one place that will never shut their doors to you and your demographic. The "genuine need" for said Jewish state is the supposed oppression faced by Jews. If you can buy and build enough property to make your own country and convince politicians to take up the issue right through recognising the sovereignty of said country, then you're clearly not being oppressed. So they should wait until the next oppression and genocide before they discover they're all alone again? Or maybe depend on the United Nations to save them? *guffaw* Maybe Israel should open its doors and welcome demographics facing enough oppression that they can't go build their own country. Why should they? |
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