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Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar

Posted by Nilet on Wed May 14 18:09:04 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon May 12 12:32:03 2014.

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What do you want Israel to do differently...

Not intentionally targeting civilians would be a start.

I've already explained why this is a false charge and how Israel isn't occupying anything (you can call them disputed if you would wish but occupation isn't accurate).

Calling the territories "disputed" does not change the physical facts of the occupation. Israel built a wall in the West Bank which cut off a chunk of Palestinian territory, thus effectively annexing it for Israel. Settlements go up on Palestinian territory. No matter what you call it, Israel is occupying it.

Sorry, but Israel is not an apartheid state at the present time.

It could have been built without cutting off farmers from their land in some cases, but it was necessary in order to maintain the safety of Israeli civilians.


You do realise that apartheid means "aparthood," right? Normally that means plain old segregation. Israel went for the gusto and built a giant wall.

However...

Israel might be a racist state (vis a vis the Arabs and even some Jews), but it is not an apartheid state.

Since you admit that Israel is racist, you've already conceded the point and quibbling over the semantic details is unnecessary.

I wasn't aware access to rocket building supplies is a human right.

No, but access to house building supplies is. Telling an entire population that they must be kept in poverty because otherwise they might be able to afford weapons is disgusting and it's a violation of human rights and international law.

If you sincerely believe all of those aspects of Israeli policy are not justified, you truly do not support Israel's right to defend itself.

Oh god, you're just as annoying as the American nationalists who declare that opposing America's policy of killing Pakistani children with drones or imprisoning and torturing innocent people without oversight is tantamount to opposing America's right to defend itself.

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