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Posted by Nilet on Thu May 15 12:30:17 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu May 15 12:12:45 2014. I'm sorry, but Israeli policy is not one of apartheid.Yes, it is. You do a great injustice to those who did suffer under apartheid in South Africa by trying to label Israeli policy as such. So I'm not allowed to point out something is bad simply because an even worse example of it exists? It's hard to keep track of all the imaginary debate rules you made up. It does matter what the security fence was built to do. Nope. Annexing part of the West Bank is not justified, sorry. If you understood that, you might be able to be critical of some aspects of how the project was undertaken without dismissing Israel's need to build it. I'm pretty sure I was being critical of the fact that they annexed part of the West Bank and divided communities when they built it, which, last time I checked, are some aspects of how the project was undertaken. This is an example of the nuance that you lack. Says the person who can't be bothered to even understand half of what I say before going on long rants about what he assumes I believe. You don't give a damn about what Israel was trying to do from its perspective, and only care about one aspect of the result. It's pretty clear that what Israel was trying to do (in part) was annex part of the West Bank. If you and a neighbor are fighting, so you build a fence between your properties, except you build in thirty feet over the property line in his yard, then it's clear you're trying to take over part of his property— the act speaks for itself. Israel is not the governing power in Gaza. When will you come to understand that? Perhaps you should rise up in anger at Hamas, which prioritizes building bombs over homes. Israel is "occupying" land that no other country has ever maintained sovereignty over, and therefore, the "occupation" is not illegal under international law. Palestine has never existed as a nation, therefore, Israel cannot occupy it. Ah. Israel's occupation is legitimate because Palestine is not a country and has no government of its own, but it doesn't need to provide services and citizenship because Palestine is its own country and Hamas is its legitimate government. Like Israel, you're trying to have it both ways. You don't get to have it both ways. Either Palestine is a country or it isn't. You need to make up your mind. For all the burden you place on Israel in its posts for this and that, you seem to be giving a large free pass to the Palestinians for not entering serious peace negotiations in years. We've been through this. Several times, in fact. Would you please stop beating up straw men labeled "Nilet gives free pass to Hamas" already? If you understood that aspect of what was going on, you might understand how Israel can "occupy" yet not want to provide services to places in the West Bank such as Area A. I understand what's going on better than you do, since you seem to be insisting that Israel is the purist of nations that just wants to be left alone and is being attacked by mean bully Palestine for absolutely no reason. Or to put it your way, for all the burden you place on Palestine, you seem to be giving a large free pass to the Israelis for not entering serious peace negotiations in years. |
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