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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 16 21:02:20 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by joe c on Fri May 15 20:23:43 2009.

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joe c, read my post again, carefully. thanks.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 16 21:03:23 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 16 08:28:28 2009.

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Bill, I clearly wrote "The info is not on the website."

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by 156n3rd on Sat May 16 21:05:23 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 16 21:03:23 2009.

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Why are you always the target of discontent?

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 16 21:18:21 2009, in response to Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 15 19:48:12 2009.

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:::sigh::: ... it seems that several/many of you totally screwed up the reading comprehension part of my post. Maybe it was partially my fault. I thought all of you would know what "bonus" means from last year's summer NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursions. But I guess I was wrong. "Bonus" in this context means the "extra" or "optional" or "alternative" portion of the trip that is available to participants who are more interested in additional RAIL RIDING than going on whatever culturally significant tour the NYTM offers at the end of the line (in this case, it's a trip to the Bronx Zoo, as the title of the excursion strongly implies).

So all your posts about the ToMC were ridiculous since I was only talking about the BONUS portion of this trip. Since I specifically said that the Lo-V cars were running on the BONUS portion of the trip, that should tell you that something else is running the rest of the trip. And that something else is the ToMC.

Others in this thread complained about the lack of info on the website, or in general. I clearly stated that the info wasn't on the website, and as for "in general", I just gave you the info!

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Take Pride,
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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 16 21:19:41 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 16 21:18:21 2009.

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Ummmmmmm , maybe your post wasn't as clearly written as you thought.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 16 21:20:18 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by 156n3rd on Sat May 16 21:05:23 2009.

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Why does it take you all afternoon to make a bowel movement?

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 16 21:21:06 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Train Dude on Sat May 16 21:19:41 2009.

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Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, maybe you just failed at reading comprehension AGAIN! Reread what I just wrote.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 16 21:22:30 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 16 21:21:06 2009.

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Ummmmmmmmm! I read the first 4 lines. That's about all I ever read of anything that you post. Most times you are just too annoying - but hey, that's just me.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 16 21:23:40 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 16 21:03:23 2009.

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Bill, I clearly wrote "The info is not on the website."

GOTCHA ! heh heh heh

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Ken S. on Sat May 16 21:23:57 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Train Dude on Sat May 16 21:22:30 2009.

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You and about 90% of the board.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 16 21:28:56 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Train Dude on Sat May 16 21:22:30 2009.

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And as I clearly wrote, you just failed at reading comprehension AGAIN! Reread what I just wrote.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 16 21:29:12 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 16 21:23:40 2009.

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:)

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 16 21:30:25 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 16 21:28:56 2009.

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There's really no need. I'm certainly not all that interested. Others just might be so, by all means, please re-post yur last comment per your new style.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 16 21:40:59 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Train Dude on Sat May 16 21:30:25 2009.

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It's not new and it's not a style. It's just right. And it's funny as hell that you can't understand what you read. That actually explains a lot though...

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat May 16 21:59:24 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat May 16 13:39:03 2009.

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Very nice pic, I got one, but it didn't show up too well.
I can understand them for wanting to reef the train if it is not worth maintaining, but the next car that should be repainted must have the Yankees and the Mets colors on the front of the trains.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat May 16 21:59:56 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by South Ferry on Sat May 16 04:34:45 2009.

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Your loss then :P

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 16 22:09:42 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 16 21:40:59 2009.

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What does it explain?

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat May 16 22:11:28 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by danny at 103rd street on Sat May 16 04:52:55 2009.

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I wouldn't mind the TOMC, as long as it runs above ground. Hopefully they would run it on the 6. I'd like to get a shot of it at the Whitlock curve.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by joe c on Sun May 17 00:20:35 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 16 21:02:20 2009.

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I read your post,i was just making a comment.




til next time

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 17 00:31:46 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat May 16 22:11:28 2009.

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wtf?? did you not read my post and click the links I provided?

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 17 00:40:52 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by joe c on Sun May 17 00:20:35 2009.

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I don't follow, but ok! Have a great Sunday!

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun May 17 01:03:59 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 17 00:31:46 2009.

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What? all I see is Lo V in your post. And I was making a comment to danny about the holiday train about rather than the R9's they should run the TOMC on lines like the 6 or the 7. I did not say anything about the Transit Museum sponsored trips.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Broadway Buffer on Sun May 17 01:18:36 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 16 08:21:25 2009.

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OTOH the repainted Rebirds are just there for more passenger capacity.

And also so that the train itself will "have a fighting chance" as I've heard. I've heard the "museum cars" have had some trouble, so the additional redbirds (of many colors) also serve that purpose. At least they won't need a rescue train or w/e that was for the Yankee Sta. Lo-V run.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 17 01:19:12 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun May 17 01:03:59 2009.

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k. my bad. didn't see the holiday train mention.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Edwards! on Sun May 17 01:24:55 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 16 21:18:21 2009.

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Thats enough...

mentally killed you are.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun May 17 01:25:28 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 17 01:19:12 2009.

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Ok, i'm glad that's cleared up then.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 17 01:28:28 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Edwards! on Sun May 17 01:24:55 2009.

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He fails to grasp that people don't have a reading comprehension problem ... he has a WRITING comprehension problem. His.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 17 01:36:13 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Edwards! on Sun May 17 01:24:55 2009.

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you were dead the day you stopped driving. dig your grave. put on the black veil.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 17 01:36:45 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 17 01:28:28 2009.

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You have a huge reading comprehension problem. And it looks like you're now holding Train Dick's dick.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 17 01:43:33 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 17 01:36:45 2009.

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Heh. Ah well ... one last flipoff for ya then ... don't HAVE to, I actually have my OWN. If you get off the IRT at 138th, I'm sure you can RENT one. :)

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 17 01:48:23 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 17 01:43:33 2009.

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That's even worse - you don't have to, but you still are holding his dick. That's F'ed up.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Train Dude on Sun May 17 03:25:37 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 17 01:36:45 2009.

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"And it looks like you're now holding Train Dick's dick."

Something that you've fantasized about doing yourself, many times.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by 33rd Street on Sun May 17 08:50:43 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by danny at 103rd street on Sat May 16 04:52:55 2009.

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You must love the TOMC, don't you? I wouldn't mind the TOMC only if they were to run them on the 6.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by 33rd Street on Sun May 17 08:53:30 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by joe c on Sat May 16 01:07:13 2009.

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Agreed. As I said to some people on Duke Ellington Day, if it wasn't for the Arnines and Low-V's, there wouldn't be no TOMC.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun May 17 10:50:35 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by South Ferry on Sat May 16 12:12:31 2009.

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"Radically changed interiors"..... what got changed?? (i's been outta the loop)

Perhaps radically should describe the GOH'd R 32-40. But as far as a changed interior, the addition of A/C, flip in vent windows replacing drop sashes, new linoleum floor, and replacement of fluorescent light fixtures. It would make it difficult to restore to as new appearance.

Bill "Newkirk"



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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun May 17 10:52:53 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 20:18:25 2009.

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was never fond of the IRT cars because of what they replaced, and sorta agree with you ... but then again, like I said, these junkers are what today's kids grew up with and have deep meaning to them. It's all good. :)

What ever floats your boat Kev ! LOL


Just kidding.

Bill "Newkirk"



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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun May 17 10:58:44 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Broadway Buffer on Sun May 17 01:18:36 2009.

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And also so that the train itself will "have a fighting chance" as I've heard. I've heard the "museum cars" have had some trouble, so the additional redbirds (of many colors) also serve that purpose. At least they won't need a rescue train or w/e that was for the Yankee Sta. Lo-V run.

In the beginning, the long displayed museum cars were stretching their legs for the first time since the mid 70's, so the Redbirds gave an assist 'just in case".

It been some years since the R-12,15,17,33S have been running as the TOMC so who knows how their reliability is. If the TA can dig up an R-22 for restoration that would make it a five car train, one more car than the Low-V has.

Bill "Newkirk"

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun May 17 11:10:59 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Jeff H. on Sat May 16 20:03:12 2009.

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I would think that at the turn of the last century, railfans of the time didn't care for the steel battleships which replaced the "character" of forney steam engines, wooden coaches and gas lamps.

Although your point mirrors that of Selkirk, which is okay, look at it this way.

That old 'steel battleships' that are around today are there for riding, if road worthy, or just just visiting at museums. Where are the old Forneys and steam coaches ? They exist on paper in books and photos. If there was an operating Forney engine with some era coaches, that would definitely generate interest.

The remaining 'steel battleships' are there in person. Not just on paper and photo. Wasn't an old Forney engine found some years ago abandoned in Alaska ?

Bill "Newkirk"









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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Fred G on Sun May 17 11:24:48 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by BMTLines on Sat May 16 01:34:56 2009.

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The TOMC reminds me of my childhood and in general times in my life that were happy, so I enjoy seeing them. The arnines do same, but I wanted to a different slant. Besides, nostalgia just isn't what it used to be :D

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by aem7ac on Sun May 17 11:29:53 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Fred G on Sun May 17 11:24:48 2009.

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nostalgia only works if it's something that YOU personally remember. i still don't care for NY cahs. i don't remember any of them. i can't even tell the difference between R-32's and R-38's.



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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun May 17 12:29:39 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by aem7ac on Sun May 17 11:29:53 2009.

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R-32s are fluted from top to bottom.
R-38s are fluted on the botton half only.


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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Ken S. on Sun May 17 12:31:44 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by aem7ac on Sun May 17 11:29:53 2009.

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Quick Guide to NYC Subway Cars.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by R-1-9 on Sun May 17 12:47:35 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by R-1-9 on Fri May 15 20:58:23 2009.

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As i have said before,be glad that you have "older/vintage" cars running.A lot of hard work is going into keeping the nostalgia cars working(Lo-V,R-1-9,TOMC,BU).Yes it would be nice to see the D types and A-B,s on the road(maybe soon?)....

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun May 17 16:43:02 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by R-1-9 on Sun May 17 12:47:35 2009.

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I hear that the two Triplexes that are stored at CIY are in very sad shape.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by R-1-9 on Sun May 17 16:44:23 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun May 17 16:43:02 2009.

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Sad shape is not the word-----------

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun May 17 18:08:32 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by R-1-9 on Sun May 17 16:44:23 2009.

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Deplorable?

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by 5119 on Sun May 17 23:38:44 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 20:09:47 2009.

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I agree SelkirkTMO. Rememeber those blue doors? I wished they would have went back to the R10/R16 seating pattern while being built

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 18 00:13:13 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by 5119 on Sun May 17 23:38:44 2009.

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The blue doors COMPLETED the look! What I really appreciated about them was how roomy the cabs were - much ilke arnines. And the bench seat for the M/M didn't shimmy like the other cars ...

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon May 18 01:10:21 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by 33rd Street on Sun May 17 08:50:43 2009.

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Agreed.

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Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion

Posted by Jeff H. on Mon May 18 04:32:20 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun May 17 11:10:59 2009.

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The railway preservation movement didn't get started until the 1920s,
and not in earnest until the WW-II era. By that time most of
the older equipment was gone. Besides the derelict Manhattan
forneys in Alaska, at least 2 Chicago forneys survive. And there
are several preserved examples of rapid transit wooden steam
coaches from that era.

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