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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 10 09:49:46 2008, in response to Air Train question, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Feb 10 09:38:18 2008. I would think not, so long as you did not exit fare control. Since all terminals must be served by trains that go to Howard Beach and Jamaica (to give all passengers access to either one) you can catch either train - which means if you get off one at the airline terminal, you can catch the other as well. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Feb 10 09:59:19 2008, in response to Air Train question, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Feb 10 09:38:18 2008. Yes, $5 to enter Jamaica, and $5 to exit Howard Beach. |
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Posted by metropod on Sun Feb 10 10:00:50 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 10 09:49:46 2008. 1. he'd be paying to swipe out unless he got on the B15 at lefferts or terminal 4. so it's $20 round trip.2. from some past experinces, the train entering the loop coming from Jamacia will leave as a Howard Beach train and vice versa. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Feb 10 10:02:13 2008, in response to Air Train question, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Feb 10 09:38:18 2008. Osmosis Jones is correct. $20 round trip. Actually $16.67 at the moment in real money. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Feb 10 10:04:48 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Feb 10 09:59:19 2008. Thanks, I guess I'll drive. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 10 10:26:21 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by AlM on Sun Feb 10 10:02:13 2008. Yeah, what a freakin ripoff. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sun Feb 10 10:45:13 2008, in response to Air Train question, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Feb 10 09:38:18 2008. Take the Airtain to Federal Circle, then the HBbound car to Lefferts Blvd. It's a good walk to Aqueduct (20 minutes) but you pay only $5 for the Jamaica entry, no fare is collected at Lefferts because it is the Long Term Parking area. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Feb 10 11:45:20 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 10 10:26:21 2008. A.T. was not meant for through riders from Jamaica to H. Beach. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 10 11:48:51 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by italianstallion on Sun Feb 10 11:45:20 2008. But if the fare barrier at HB was free, or a free metrocard transfer, then this issues wouldn't exist. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sun Feb 10 11:53:09 2008, in response to Air Train question, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Feb 10 09:38:18 2008. I wonder if there are in fact any riders who regularly use AirTrain to commute between H. B. and Jamaica? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 10 12:10:46 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by metropod on Sun Feb 10 10:00:50 2008. So in other words, stay on the train. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 10 12:11:29 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sun Feb 10 10:45:13 2008. Thanks, David. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 10 12:12:29 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 10 09:49:46 2008. Never mind; forgot about the $5 exit fee... |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Feb 10 12:14:45 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by italianstallion on Sun Feb 10 11:53:09 2008. $40 for a 30 day unlimited, I'd assume there are. |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Sun Feb 10 12:35:57 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Feb 10 12:14:45 2008. Employees at JFK use it too. |
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Posted by FarRock on Sun Feb 10 12:41:25 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Feb 10 09:59:19 2008. Isn't it just $5 to enter and free to exit at another terminal unless you enter the subway system which would charge you an extra $2? |
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Posted by aaron on Sun Feb 10 12:48:13 2008, in response to Air Train question, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Feb 10 09:38:18 2008. Actually, it would be $20 + the swipes to the "A" train at Howard Beach and Aqueduct-North Conduit. I like the idea of walking from Lefferts AirTrain Station. You could walk on the roadway that crosses the Belt Pkwy and goes directly into the track. Probably would take less than 20 minutes... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 10 12:57:28 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by FarRock on Sun Feb 10 12:41:25 2008. Nope. Costs you $5 to enter and $5 to exit, no matter what, at Jamaica and Howard Beach, the latter being a huge ripoff. |
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Posted by FarRock on Sun Feb 10 13:21:10 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 10 12:57:28 2008. So I guess the turnstyles to enter the system take $7. |
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Posted by FarRock on Sun Feb 10 13:21:21 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 10 12:57:28 2008. subway system* |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 10 13:23:19 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by FarRock on Sun Feb 10 13:21:21 2008. right |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 10 13:24:37 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 10 12:57:28 2008. clarification - it is free to exit to the parking lot. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Feb 10 16:52:50 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Feb 10 12:14:45 2008. $40 for a 30 day unlimited, I'd assume there are.Probably not as many as there should be, as IINM that doesn't allow a bus transfer on beyond Jamaica. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 10 16:55:11 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Feb 10 16:52:50 2008. "Probably not as many as there should be,"Should be? Who says there "should be?" How many "should there be?" |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Feb 10 17:30:42 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 10 16:55:11 2008. "Probably not as many as there should be,"Should be? Who says there "should be?" How many "should there be?" Who: businesses a bus ride away from Jamaica. How many: some. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 10 18:27:09 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Feb 10 17:30:42 2008. Air Train's Jamaica station is near a lot of businesses, so I suppose people traveling from Howard Beach (a mostly residential community) could use it to go there. I do't know how much demand there would be from that particular commute. |
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Posted by Andy on Sun Feb 10 18:28:59 2008, in response to Air Train question, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Feb 10 09:38:18 2008. As other posters noted, can't be done. Both Jamaica and Howard Beach are entry & exit pay stations; other stations are all free.You can take the J from Suthphin westward (southbound) to 111th St. (two stops) and then the Q37 bus; or the J four stops to Woodhaven Blvd. and then then Q11 bus. $4 round trip. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Feb 10 18:51:40 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 10 18:27:09 2008. I don't think people from Howard Beach tend to patronize Jamaica's businesses, but that's just a wild guess. They'd probably be more likely to drive to one of the malls near Howard Beach. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 10 18:53:26 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Feb 10 18:51:40 2008. I'd guess you were right. |
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Posted by caine515 on Sun Feb 10 21:28:57 2008, in response to Air Train question, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Feb 10 09:38:18 2008. it would cost u $10 because u have to pay at both stops. My suggestion. Take the train from Jamaica around the loop to federal circle and catch either the Q10 or B15 bus. It would only be $5 instead and would be cool to see the sights of the line. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Feb 10 22:22:24 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Andy on Sun Feb 10 18:28:59 2008. Or what about the Q53 over the Q11? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Feb 10 22:24:10 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Grand concourse on Sun Feb 10 22:22:24 2008. The Q11 goes closer to the racetrack. |
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Posted by GIS Man on Mon Feb 11 11:47:49 2008, in response to Air Train question, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Feb 10 09:38:18 2008. Been there! Done that! It does cost $10.Bob |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Mon Feb 11 12:53:39 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 10 18:27:09 2008. There is a slight chance that somebody who reverse-commutes to LI uses the Airtrain. It's cheaper and faster than the bus and/or subway. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 11 19:32:29 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Feb 10 18:51:40 2008. ["I don't think people from Howard Beach tend to patronize Jamaica's businesses, but that's just a wild guess. They'd probably be more likely to drive to one of the malls near Howard Beach."]No, but i bet there are people that would use the LIRR at Jamaica rather than going to ENY if AirTrain wasn't double fare for them.
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Feb 12 18:37:20 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Jeff Rosen on Mon Feb 11 19:32:29 2008. It may be double fare for the occasional shopper but if one commutes from Howard Beach to LIRR stations, the 30 day unlimited Airtrain Metrocard at $40 is cheaper and faster than backtracking to ENY. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 13 22:41:32 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 10 13:24:37 2008. Which makes the $5 not a fare but rather a pedestrian toll. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Feb 13 23:08:04 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 13 22:41:32 2008. yes. a pedestrian toll to cross an imaginary line. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 13 23:14:10 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Feb 10 11:48:51 2008. They didn't want people using AirTrain to commute between Howard Beach and Jamaica via AirTrain. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 13 23:15:30 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Feb 13 22:41:32 2008. Here we go again.... "Pedestrian Toll".... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 13 23:17:59 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Feb 10 16:52:50 2008. "Should be" is a wrong phrase. The stipulations in building airtrain was a surcharge put on airline tickets. I believe there's something that said it's to be used strictly for travel to and from the airport. That's also why there isn't any intermediate stations outside either. That would also include using it to travel between Jamaica and Howard Beach.....but don't quote me on that, I think I read that here once, so that may or may not be fact. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Feb 13 23:19:23 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 13 23:14:10 2008. that's not a reason to do what they did! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 13 23:19:34 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Feb 10 18:27:09 2008. Even if there was a demand, the cost of the montly ticket (which any regular commuter would no doubt buy) would make it quite attractive. It's not expensive at $1 a ride. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Feb 13 23:20:08 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 13 23:15:30 2008. it is. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 13 23:20:49 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 13 23:19:34 2008. The $1 a ride comes from $40 for a montly ticket which most people taking about 20 round trips a month would come out to about $1 a ride, give or take. HARDLY expensive. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 13 23:25:01 2008, in response to Air Train question, posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Feb 10 09:38:18 2008. Correction. It would cost $16. You buy two $10 Metrocard which gives you $12 on each card. All done, you have $4 left on the card(s) to use for the subway, meaning the travel cost you $16. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Feb 13 23:26:50 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 13 23:25:01 2008. He said he was coming via the LIRR, not the subway. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Feb 13 23:28:34 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 13 23:25:01 2008. You could spend $20 and really feel good about yourself.After you complete your travel, go to the nearest bus stop, get on the first bus you see,, dump $4 worth of quarters into the farebox, shout "Long Live the Queen" or something else of your choosing and then get off the bus, knowing you just cut the MTA deficit by an infinitesimal amount. 8-) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Feb 14 00:10:18 2008, in response to Re: Air Train question, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Feb 13 23:26:50 2008. Why would he not buy Metrocard using the "Get $12 for ever $10 you spend" card? |
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