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Posted by Alex L. on Fri Nov 26 15:22:57 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Fri Nov 26 11:35:07 2004. You'll never get a NYPD permit for a demonstration in that area - even the TWU is shoved off on the side streets. |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Fri Nov 26 15:39:29 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Alex L. on Fri Nov 26 15:22:57 2004. Well, don't stand still in that area, and don't make it look like a "parade". (If worse comes to worst, put banners on cars and drive past the HQ on a regular basis.) |
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Re: Vindicated! (Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban) |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Fri Nov 26 15:47:14 2004, in response to Re: Vindicated! (Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban), posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Nov 26 15:22:31 2004. The "socialism" part of the Nazis' name was a political gimmick, anyway. |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Fri Nov 26 15:54:08 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by BIE on Fri Nov 26 13:56:40 2004. If it happened to me my lawyers would hire the Crips to see about the eviction after the lawsuit got over with.Why the Crips? They aren't exactly complete adherents to the law themselves. Besides, there have been cases in which folks hired gangs for security, only to have the security backfire on them. In the late 60s, the Rolling Stones once hired Hell's Angels to do their security for them, and the Hell's Angels got drunk and committed nonsense. (I think history remembers this incident as the "Altamont" riots or something, go Google it). In more recent times, the USA hired Osama Bin Laden and his merry men to take care of the Soviets. Everyone knows what became of THAT arrangement. |
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Posted by BIE on Fri Nov 26 16:49:48 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Fri Nov 26 15:54:08 2004. True. |
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Re: Time to Focus Our Efforts Again |
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Posted by the joe on Fri Nov 26 16:56:52 2004, in response to Re: Time to Focus Our Efforts Again, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Nov 26 13:10:19 2004. But I ain't got your number... do I?! |
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Re: Vindicated! (Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban) |
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Posted by BIE on Fri Nov 26 16:59:00 2004, in response to Re: Vindicated! (Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban), posted by Dave on Fri Nov 26 14:58:39 2004. Hey, retard, the Krupps and Farbens set up hitler just like Corporate america set bu$h up. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Nov 26 17:28:24 2004, in response to Vindicated! (Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban), posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 25 17:23:54 2004. The chip inside your brain is malfunctioning again. Please re-boot it by walking through the supermarket scanner. |
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Posted by BIE on Fri Nov 26 17:31:08 2004, in response to Re: Vindicated! (Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Nov 26 17:28:24 2004. Hey, Chris, Did DHS "chip" Selkirk? 8-) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Nov 26 17:34:31 2004, in response to Re: Vindicated! (Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban), posted by BIE on Fri Nov 26 17:31:08 2004. Given their obsession with inconsequential "threats", I'd say yeah. |
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Posted by BIE on Fri Nov 26 17:36:38 2004, in response to Re: Vindicated! (Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Nov 26 17:34:31 2004. 8-) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 26 18:47:09 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Booge on Fri Nov 26 01:31:15 2004. I'm not going to try to make this "political" but everybody has to realize that "the fix is in" - this policy is coming from the Governor's office at the request of various police agencies as well as the federal government. There likely WON'T be any hearings (they're not required) but during the "comment period" WRITTEN comments to the MTA are possible. Do bear in mind that they don't have to READ them, but they DO have to file them.Tried to warn people earlier this year that once those pesky elections were out of the way, the hammer was going to fall ... :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 26 19:44:11 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Wayne on Fri Nov 26 12:04:56 2004. We ALL know it's CLINTON'S FAULT! :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 26 20:29:43 2004, in response to Re: Vindicated! (Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban), posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Nov 26 15:22:31 2004. Unca Dave only spouts what he hears from Rush ... not his fault. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 26 20:30:34 2004, in response to Re: Vindicated! (Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban), posted by Dave on Fri Nov 26 14:58:39 2004. And I'll bet you think you're "conservative" ... go read some Barry Goldwater some time. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 26 20:35:45 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Alex L. on Fri Nov 26 15:22:57 2004. Aw you're ruining all the fun ... let them find out about "fighting city hall" even if it's the state they're fighting who cares even less. Folks need the opportunity to PERSONALLY learn why those of us with some experience have the attitudes we have about our "sausage crafters" ... some time in detention might wise them up about the futility of all this. :)Some civics lessons as to where the "people" stand is in order here - I say let them have at it and LEARN. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 26 20:37:21 2004, in response to Re: Vindicated! (Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Nov 26 17:28:24 2004. Don't you have a pair of jackboots to polish? :-\ |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 26 20:41:17 2004, in response to Re: Vindicated! (Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban), posted by BIE on Fri Nov 26 17:31:08 2004. I'm a proud owner of a little wafer I found between my keyboard plug and my motherboard. Decided to keep it. That way they don't have to wake me up at 5AM. :) |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Nov 26 22:50:43 2004, in response to Re: Vindicated! (Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban), posted by Dave on Fri Nov 26 15:00:14 2004. Dad's a lawyer so ha. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Nov 26 22:51:19 2004, in response to Re: Vindicated! (Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban), posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 26 20:29:43 2004.  Unca Dave only spouts what he hears from Rush ... not his fault. :) Nah... He was NOT listening to Rush, or if he was he was not paying attention. Rush covered that on Wednesday, and Rush got it correct. You do not need to agree with his politics, but you can trust his facts. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 26 23:03:12 2004, in response to Re: Vindicated! (Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban), posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Nov 26 22:51:19 2004.  Nope ... when the light of truth is shone on old Rush, he scatters like a Bronx kitchen floor ... might want to check out this book:The Way Things Aren't: Rush Limbaugh's Reign of Error : Over 100 Outrageously False and Foolish Statements from America's Most Powerful Radio and TV host I can understand allegiance to those who you agree with, but that doesn't make their "facts" any more accurate. :( |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Nov 26 23:33:52 2004, in response to Re: Vindicated! (Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban), posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Nov 26 00:07:29 2004. 100%It happened. I believe there are three CSX cops assigned to Baltimore. There's a lot of CSX trackage to cover. Those two were just passing by, over-zelous and paid the price. CSX property, OK. They have NO RIGHT on private property. |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Fri Nov 26 23:39:46 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 26 20:35:45 2004. I'm pretty sure that a form of protest can be thought up in such a way that is at least technically and arguably legal. While a motorbike (bicycle?) gathering was busted by cops enforcing "anti-crowd" laws (did you hear about this one?), the cops DID allow people biking "in ones and twos"... in other words, a dispersed protest might work. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Nov 26 23:40:37 2004, in response to WAYNE READ THIS with photo ban, posted by BIE on Fri Nov 26 14:02:43 2004. What's really funny is that lots of the crews that work the trains that pass over us blow the horn and wave!!!They know who we are and what we do. What's also instresting is that the MTA cops drop in and say "hi" when we are there, so do the City cops from Northern and Central Divisions. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 26 23:47:08 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Fri Nov 26 23:39:46 2004. Back in the 1950's and 1960's, it was known as the "three on a corner" law - "inciting a riot." After that was ruled illegal in the New York courts, it got changed to "Conspiracy." All it takes is one MTA employee to pick up a phone ... now I'm not saying they will - but if they do, there's a bus garage on the west side that some folks have already visited just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.The ban IS going to happen though ... regardless of the sidewalk acts. :( |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Fri Nov 26 23:59:36 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 26 23:47:08 2004. And the ban is, of course, unconstitutional, which means thus: If the ban is inevitable, so are the lawsuits. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 27 00:30:10 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Fri Nov 26 23:59:36 2004. So far, the "Patriot Act" *has* held up to judicial scrutiny, and to make things a bit worse, so were the prohibitions on photography during WWII. After all, we're at WAR, right? It's not that I disagree with you or I somehow *believe* in this stupidity - I'm merely trying to point out what IS done in the people's name in "times like these." The outcome of the election PROVES that "we" are fully in favor of this by the largest majority EVER. End of story. :( |
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Posted by Mark on Sat Nov 27 00:59:41 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Nov 26 18:47:09 2004. Do bear in mind that they don't have to READ themThat's not true. They have to not only read them, but they have to respond to them too. What they DON'T have to do is consider them when it comes time to vote to adopt the rule. SAPA §202(5)(b). |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 27 02:00:51 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Mark on Sat Nov 27 00:59:41 2004. My fault - I tend not to go into the minutae of how it really works because it tends to bore people to tears. I'm quite familiar with the requirements although I didn't work for the MTA. I worked for the NYS Department of Public Service (erroneously referred to by the public as the "Public Service Commission" - the "Commission" is JUST the five commissioners, the department is the actual agency) which receives FAR more public comment than the MTA. However, it works the same at any agency in compliance with "Administrative Procedure" ...Here's how it *really* works ... prior to the meeting where the item is on the agenda, a bunch of us get dragged into a conference room along with the boxes of "comments" ... the "comments" get piled onto the conference table. We each grab a bunch of them, along with our yellow legal pad and our official BiC pens. A vertical line is drawn, "Pro" and "Con" ... we then SCAN each comment to determine "Pro" or "Con" ... we then strike off a mark for each in the appropriate column. When all of the "comments" have been "processed," a tally is made of "pro" and "con" and totals are arrived at. Specific comments from LEGISLATORS are put aside along with any "interesting" items to be read by supervision if they so desire. Usually however, they don't. Therefore, "SITING of power plant at Athens, NY: 1,244 *for*, 3,167 *against, damned liberals" ... count goes into "official minutes," comments themselves are trucked in their boxes over to "state archives" and the commissioners vote based on what they were going to vote anyway, comments or not. Any comments by LEGISLATORS or the 2nd floor ("Governor's office") are separated out and attached to a memorandum to the "secretary of the agency" who will then have someone write up an "executive summary" of the "thoughts of the special" (usually a single page) which is then forwarded to the Commissioners. So there's your SAPA and how it's actually done ... been there, done that too many times, public be damned. :( |
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Posted by BIE on Sat Nov 27 02:36:39 2004, in response to Re: WAYNE READ THIS with photo ban, posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Nov 26 23:40:37 2004. There are police officers who protect freedom and there are overzealous jerks like those CSX cops who need to find other non related employment. Good cops like to throw them in the back of the cruiser. |
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Posted by Wayne on Sat Nov 27 04:19:14 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by BIE on Fri Nov 26 13:35:52 2004. I always listen to Train Dude, for just like you he is clearly far superior to anyone else. I would particularly like to listen to his views regarding his dirty little secrets. Very unusually, he didn't have a smart-ass, ego-massaging answer for the poster of this Subtalk messgage. |
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Posted by BIE on Sat Nov 27 08:21:19 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Wayne on Sat Nov 27 04:19:14 2004. Scumbag, RSTN LIES just destroyed any respect I had for you. It is highly speculated that you are RSTN the one who REALLY brought SubTalk down. |
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Posted by TTC4549 on Sat Nov 27 09:47:18 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by willD on Thu Nov 25 14:23:28 2004. If i seem to recall correctly (and what everyone fails to remember, especially you anti-Bush people) is that England, Germany, FRANCE, Spain, RUSSIA, ISREAL, IRAN, and i believe EGYPT, were ALL convinced that iraq has such weapons. Do you think, that maybe, just maybe, he got them into Syria, (a country known to be supportive of terrorists), to get them out of the way? Do ya think that if that many nations suspected it, that maybe, just maybe there is something there? If Saddam had nothing to hide, and he didnt have such weapons, Why did he stonewall hans Blix?And if you are antiIraq war, let me ask you something - Are you for the systematic rape and degradation of women? They found "rape rooms", this is fact.Are you for the systematic slaughter of 100,000's of people? He killed (on the conversative estimate) enough people to fill the city of Pittsburgh... He used mustard gas on his own people, killing off kurds. And yes i know it happens in other countries too, mainly in africa, I am aware of that, cause i know that someone will point that out, but remember, none of those countries ever invaded another, none of them had the capability to produce WMDs - Oh and i havent forgotten about Iran and North Korea as well. They are also problems, however it is seeming like Iran is complying - and North Korea will continue to be a huge problem. Its nice to see that we are all very politically savy here, but you do know that this is for the posting of transit items, right? |
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Posted by R30A on Sat Nov 27 11:01:15 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by BIE on Sat Nov 27 08:21:19 2004. Maybe by you.Most people know thats not true. Now--- Maybe the RSTN who was here is Wayne. because the 2 RSTN's were different. |
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Posted by aem7 on Sat Nov 27 11:19:45 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Wayne on Sat Nov 27 04:19:14 2004. If that kind of allegations was about me, I wouldn't respond either. Whether true or not, my responding would not benefit my cause in any way. It's Press Management 101, people. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 27 11:42:38 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by R30A on Sat Nov 27 11:01:15 2004. Not likely. We know who was/were RTSN. |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Nov 27 18:35:43 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 27 00:30:10 2004. So far, the "Patriot Act" *has* held up to judicial scrutiny, and to make things a bit worse, so were the prohibitions on photography during WWII. After all, we're at WAR, right? It's not that I disagree with you or I somehow *believe* in this stupidity - I'm merely trying to point out what IS done in the people's name in "times like these." The outcome of the election PROVES that "we" are fully in favor of this by the largest majority EVER. End of story. :(So, in your opinion, we should do nothing, because, in your opinion, we could do nothing, on the grounds that the Government is the Borg and any resistance is futile? I don't go for that crap. This isn't about the people of this country. This is about the people of New York. The people of New York voted "against" this crap. The MTA belongs to NY State, right? If that's the case, then we might as well screw up the MTA's plans by referendum. If no such mechanism exists, then get candidates elected that would put such a mechanism in place. End of story. :) |
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Posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Nov 27 18:41:15 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 27 02:00:51 2004. Specific comments from LEGISLATORS are put aside along with any "interesting" items to be read by supervision if they so desire. Usually however, they don't. Therefore, "SITING of power plant at Athens, NY: 1,244 *for*, 3,167 *against, damned liberals" ... count goes into "official minutes," comments themselves are trucked in their boxes over to "state archives" and the commissioners vote based on what they were going to vote anyway, comments or not.Have there been ANY efforts to regulate authority commissioners by a public referendum in the State of New York? If there have been, and they have failed, then what were the causes of failure? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 27 18:47:02 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Wayne on Sat Nov 27 04:19:14 2004. Up pops Wayne the Weasel once again.More stupidity waynie? Show us what you got or show us what a weasel you are. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Nov 27 21:46:15 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 27 00:30:10 2004. I note that LOTS of NYC Subway, passenger and freight trains, streetcars and buses, interruban cars and trains photos were taken during WWII. The Government PAID photographers to take pictures all during the war years in dozens of American cities. Those photos have all been digized and can be downloaded. I currenly have 65 photos taken in Baltimore between 1942 and 1945, all showing streetcars, trolley coaches and buses in "Transit at work" shots and city background shots.This current NYCT photoban is just plain paranoia at work. BTW, we are NOT at War. The President cannot declare War, ONLY Congress can. Currently, Congress authorized military action in Afganistan and Iraq, but DID NOT declare war. Not now, not in Viet Nam, not even in Korea. The last time Congress declared War was December 8, 1941. |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Sat Nov 27 21:53:43 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Nov 27 21:46:15 2004. I couldn't have said it any better. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Nov 27 22:08:47 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Bingham C50 on Sat Nov 27 21:53:43 2004. Kevin is a friend, but some of his political postings seem right out of Monty Python.I majored in History, minored in PolSci. I LOVE history, and it's the signpost of the future. Politicians, by the way are no smarter or dumber than anybody else. NOBODY knows what's going to happen a half-second from now, let alone a day, a week or a month. Anybody who claims otherwise is blowing smoke. LIFE is what happens tom us while we are making plans. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 28 01:39:51 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Nov 27 18:35:43 2004. Wow ... ummm ... never said "do nothing" ... only said, "here's how it works, don't do anything STUPID." Throughout this past year, I've taken a lot of guff for reminding people that the photo ban was part of a larger policy brought about by politicians at the federal and state levels. That if this mattered, it had to be laid at the feet of people running for all sorts of offices other than mayor or governor. That at that time when politicians were actually VULNERABLE and were ready to pander, folks didn't make a loud noise like Ukrainians. Instead, *I* got blasted for being "off topic." OK, election's over - there's nothing for them to fear now. And only politicians can stop this. I'm sorry, I fail to see how this is now my fault. :-\Immediately following an election is when heads roll and when all the bad chit comes down. Why? Because it's two or four years until the affected can eek retribution against them in the voting booth. And people have the attention span of Sponge Bob - they'll forget all about it in time for the next election. Where was everybody when it MATTERED? :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 28 01:42:23 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Richard Rabinowitz on Sat Nov 27 18:41:15 2004. New York does not HAVE "referendum, initiative, or recall." There is no mechanism to do that in the NYS Constitution other than begging your elected to do something about it. I've explained how our government is three men in a room and your OWN legislator doesn't even get to SEE the bills that they've already been told which way to vote on - "or else."The answer, unfortunately, is NO. Election's over. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 28 02:31:18 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Nov 27 22:08:47 2004. With all due respect, this is New York. Not Monty Python, more like Ernie Kovacs - in particular the gorillas with bongos skit. MTA had sat on this after the adverse publicity and it looked like it was a dead issue. Publication in the Register though has set the process in motion. I'll say no more ... |
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Posted by Wayne on Sun Nov 28 09:58:20 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Train Dude on Sat Nov 27 18:47:02 2004. Still no explanation, Steve? Do you have something to hide? Are we to assume those allegations are true, then?And how, exactly, would you like me to "show us what you got or show us what a weasel you are"? |
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Posted by BIE on Sun Nov 28 10:06:49 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Wayne on Sun Nov 28 09:58:20 2004. hey, fuck boy what did I tell you about coming in here and spreading your shit. Train Dude couldn't have the most reliable cars on the system by being a bad boss, now go away and love your dog. |
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Posted by Wayne on Sun Nov 28 10:16:41 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by BIE on Sun Nov 28 10:06:49 2004. Sorry, John! Didn't mean to disobey you, you braindead prick. Still, his silence regarding these allegations is intriguing.... Anyway, now off to love my dog, like you said! Retard. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Nov 28 11:15:37 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 28 02:31:18 2004. A year from now probably the photoban will be a null issue.Intelligent cops (There are actually a lot, despite what's been said here.) will just ignore the photo taking unless a "Suit" is around. When the old photo ban was in affect, a lot of shots were taken. Even when NYCT (or the BOT, or TA) didn't allow it unless you were part of the "media", lots fans were snaping shots of Low-V's, Standards, Q's, and all the other stuff running. Even if there are a lot of tickets issued in the first months, the courts and the ajudication boards are going the get very tired of dealing with what are essentialy garbage charges and the word will be passed "Back off with these crap carges". It happened in the Thities, the Forties and the Fifties. It will happen again. |
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Posted by BIE on Sun Nov 28 11:20:26 2004, in response to Re: NYCTA moves forward with photo ban, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Nov 28 11:15:37 2004. there are a lot of intelligent cops but they will have DHS decoys taking pictures of trains, If they don't get hassled, the cop who didn't follow orders will be in hot water. |
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