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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jan 29 19:32:52 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 17:48:28 2011. "He did well with the photo though."I agree-- at first blush, it certainly looks plausible, enough to get one to read further. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 19:34:39 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jan 29 19:32:52 2011. as soon as I saw the photo,as well as other quotes I knew it was bogus. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 19:37:00 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 19:34:39 2011. The car paint did it for me on the first shot. Didn't even have to notice the bulkhead sign. :) |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 19:37:54 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 19:37:00 2011. still,a great joke. |
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Posted by Randyo on Sat Jan 29 20:10:54 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jan 29 19:03:54 2011. I agree. However, since As I pointed out in my post regarding the April Fools photoshop pic, 76 was never intended to be a terminal and there were no provisions for switches to allow for it to be used as such since it was intended to build the line to the area of 106 St just east of the Aqueduct race track. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 20:14:42 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by BMTLines on Sat Jan 29 18:52:31 2011. And that post is highly suggestive that nothing was built:The drawing states "Traffic Control between Euclid Avenue and Future 76th Street Interlockings and Pitkin Avenue Yard Interlocking for Tracks A5, A6, A7 and A8." |
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Posted by Randyo on Sat Jan 29 20:15:50 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 17:52:41 2011. If that were the case, it could be possible, therefore that the portion of Pitkin Av under which the station is reputed to be was built by the city to accommodate the route in much the same way as 6 Av in Manhattan was extended south from w 3 St to Canal St to meet Church St. However, if Pitkin were not a through street, where did it end since the Fulton St el structure was over Pitkin Av until Euclid where it turned north to Liberty Av. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 20:18:28 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 19:30:20 2011. You have done more research than [perhaps anyone here, but none of the results prove it was there, only that it was planned. No one is disputing that it was planned. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 20:21:07 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jan 29 19:03:54 2011. Exactly. That was what I was trying to say. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 20:23:02 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Randyo on Sat Jan 29 20:15:50 2011. In the other thread on 76th St, someone posted historical photos from the NYC historic site, from the 1920's, and it shows the old alignment still in use. By the 50's, which is the next image available, the Pitkin we know is in. |
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Posted by Randyo on Sat Jan 29 20:23:52 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 15:52:07 2011. Well, I actually had read about the photoshop product a few years earlier. What does surprise me is that with the documentation that IS out there both as photos of the Euclid model board and signal drawings how anyone could be fooled by the Brennan article. Regardless of what we may or may not eventually find there, I would think that anyone interested enough in the existence of the station shell would by now have a relatively encyclopedic knowledge of the area as we know it exists and what was proposed and why. |
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Posted by Randyo on Sat Jan 29 20:27:39 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by BMTLines on Sat Jan 29 19:26:09 2011. As I mentioned in many of my post on this subject, I was shown what was supposed to be the ends of yd leads A7 and A8 at street level in 1959 and was told about an actual visit there on a train in 1962. That was long before the current rumor mill started. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 20:29:48 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 20:23:02 2011. Here's 76th St and Pitkin Ave in 1924:Pitkin Ave ended at Ruby St (one block from 76th St), then went up to the South Road Alinment for about 3 blocks, and then down to what is now Putkin Ave in Queens. There was no road at Pitkin and 76th. http://gis.nyc.gov/doitt/nycitymap/?z=8&p=1022868,185836&c=GIS1924&s=i:PITKIN+AVENUE,76+STREET,QUEENS |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 20:43:23 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 20:29:48 2011. Shame on you! LOOK what you DID! You just dug the big hole!Take a look at that shot ... if it was anything still like that during the war when this was supposedly done, there would be nothing in the way of the digging, and the layout would have the work ending right at the next cross street, which would fit perfectly with the description of where the work ended. GO to your room, you're GROUNDED! :) |
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Posted by Randyo on Sat Jan 29 21:28:15 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 20:43:23 2011. As I mentioned in my other post, the city may well have extended Pitkin in the same way it extended 6 Ave in Manhattan for the specific purpose of extending the subway. That may also explain why early plans for the IND east of Rockaway Av call for the subway to go either straight out Fulton St under the Jamaica Line or curve under Liberty at Penna Av instead of going all the way to Pitkin as it does now. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat Jan 29 21:31:57 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by Sand Box John on Sat Jan 29 19:27:02 2011. But you kept insisting that it started with the April Fools Joke even after people started telling you that the controversy came first.Unfortunately access to MTA records is currently restricted ACCESS RESTRICTIONS: Restrictions on this collection apply to drawings or photo-prints of facilities that are currently active. Drawings and photo-prints pertaining to facilities that have closed are available to the public. Since 76th Street would be accessible from a currently active line they are not releasing anything to the public. All Transit museum tours of abandoned facilities except for City Hall were also canceled post 9-11. For that matter they will not confirm or deny the rumors and we all know what governments mean when they do not address an issue. AFAIAC that in itself is an admission that something exists. As for records - I have this in my collection which dates to 1948. Unfortunately all it proves is that the station was definitely planned. Whether or not it was actually constructed is open to debate  |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 21:33:04 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Randyo on Sat Jan 29 21:28:15 2011. Could be ... what I find amusing, since Chris doesn't believe in the IND Santa Claus is that if I were a subway planner, that big vacant lot sure does look like a great place to dig a really big hole and drop in a subway station while I'm at it. The photo doesn't appear to help the cause and besides, Chris needed a smack anyway. Heh. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 21:36:41 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 20:18:28 2011. Yes, I remember some of his other interesting conclusions. |
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Posted by Randyo on Sat Jan 29 21:38:52 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 29 20:23:02 2011. Since it's obvious that the alignment of Pitkin into Old South Rd was changed sometime in the period between 1924 and circa 1950, that could explain a lot behind the mystery surrounding 76 St station. I think now it might be time to look into the city archives for street construction in the area that may not necessarily be directly related to the subway construction. Since the extension of 6 Av in Manhattan south to Canal St coincided with the construction of the IND subway in the area, it could be possible that the construction of the area S/O Euclid, namely 76 St station, might have been done as a part of a larger project to straighten out Pitkin/Old South Rd as part of a single project to improve travel in the area and depending on when that was done it could mean that it was all done at the same time. |
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Posted by Randyo on Sat Jan 29 21:39:23 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 21:33:04 2011. See my next post. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 21:45:22 2011, in response to 76st what happened?, posted by tunnelrat on Fri Jan 28 13:58:35 2011. Okay, I have done some research and I now have photographic evidence of another station on Hillside east of 179th, never served by subway trains. They even got as far as building a station house, which stood until December 2004. I will post pictures of this station when you post pictures of the interior of 76/Pitkin station. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 21:51:57 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Randyo on Sat Jan 29 21:38:52 2011. Fascinating new angle on all this from Chris' photo there. And the refusal of the MTA to release any information due to 9/11 only suggests that 76th Street is being used as a replacement for GITMO. Heh. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 21:55:05 2011, in response to PROFF Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 21:45:22 2011. 185th is not news. But the platforms are extremely narrow. :) |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 22:01:13 2011, in response to Re: PROFF Re: 76st what happened?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 21:55:05 2011. No, it's further east than that. It's a genuine passenger stop with regular platforms. And yes, they laid tracks, installed signals and third rail, and even built (and later demolished) a surprisingly ornate station house, but still it hasn't ever had subway service. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 22:02:27 2011, in response to Re: PROFF Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 22:01:13 2011. Interesting! I know the upper pair of tracks were supposed to go out to somewhere around Carnation Ave ... assuming this isn't a hundred metre leg pull, I'd be interested in hearing more ... |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 22:14:19 2011, in response to Re: PROFF Re: 76st what happened?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 22:02:27 2011. assuming this isn't a hundred metre leg pull, I'd be interested in hearing more ...No, every word I've posted about this station is literally true. Spider-Pig knows where it is too. But I am holding the pictures to ransom for tunnelrat's pictures of inside 76th St station. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 22:24:30 2011, in response to Re: PROFF Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 22:14:19 2011. Damn! You drive a hard bargain ... I'll see if I can get a bench warrant. Heh. |
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Posted by Randyo on Sat Jan 29 22:45:31 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 21:51:57 2011. I've been trying to get some historical maps on line of that part of Queens from about 1940 to find out exactly when Pitkin Av was through routed with Old South Rd but I can't seem to find any. It seems that even historical street maps of the area are as hard to find as proof of 76 St station. |
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Posted by f179dj on Sat Jan 29 22:48:52 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jan 29 16:51:42 2011. Is that the one with the row boat ride at the end? I've been there, Luray, Shenandoah, and one in Ireland. It's hard to keep them distinct. But Luray and Howe were exceptional, being so geared up for the tourista trade. Marketing brings bucks and helps improve the property, which brings more bucks usw. |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Sat Jan 29 22:49:26 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Randyo on Sat Jan 29 22:45:31 2011. I may have, but am not positive, some maps of that area. However, it'll take a little time to search. If I can find anything worthwhile, I'll let you know by e-mail. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 22:53:05 2011, in response to PROFF Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 21:45:22 2011. nothing was ever ever built past 184st& hillside ave,period.you have just shown this board you are a fool. |
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Posted by Randyo on Sat Jan 29 23:00:13 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Joe Saitta on Sat Jan 29 22:49:26 2011. OK, thanks. As I mentioned in my earlier posts It sounds like the city rerouted Pitkin/Old South Rd similarly to the extension of 6 Av Manhattan as a joint project with subway construction. The time line for that street rerouting may give us some more info regarding the existence of 76 St station. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 23:05:43 2011, in response to Re: PROFF Re: 76st what happened?, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 22:53:05 2011. Nope, I have pictures. Several Subchatters have visited this station. Now fair's fair. Or are you a coward? |
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Posted by f179dj on Sat Jan 29 23:06:17 2011, in response to Re: PROFF Re: 76st what happened?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 22:02:27 2011. I grew up on 187th just south of Hillside. It is a bona fide hoax. (Just as 76th Street?)But there were empty lots on strategic corners into the 1960's where either speculators or TA kept the property vacant anticipating the extension of the subway: (187 and 188; 197 [just recently built over]; also note the property setbacks in some of those areas on the southside of Hillside, which do not prevail in "non-station" areas. Somewhere I have a BOT signal instruction manual that uses 179th Street Station to 187th Street Station as their basis for training in a hypothetical way. I worked with a Bus Operator who was formerly a Trackman. He swore the work train he was on once went out to Springfield Boulevard, because the trip past 179 took so long. Either the T/O was really dogging it, or the Trackman nodded off (too many diesel fumes). |
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Posted by Randyo on Sat Jan 29 23:10:58 2011, in response to 76st what happened?, posted by tunnelrat on Fri Jan 28 13:58:35 2011. Where to put this in the thread, I don't know but here is as good a place as any. While trying to find a street map of Queens from sometime between 1924 with the old alignment and 1950 with the new one, I came across some article, one of them on Wikipedia which indicate that the area in the 70s near the location of 76 St station was referred to as the "hole" where most of the homes in the area were below street level. Sometime in the 1930s, the city built sewers in the area not by digging under the street but by elevating it. The city offered to elevate the homes of the residents at city expense and all but a few homeowners had their homes elevated. The remainder of the homeowners declined and the result was that their first floors became basements and their second floors became first floors. That bit of knowledge about the area seems to add another air of mystery to the whole legend of the station.. Keeping that in mind and knowing that Pitkin dips at that point makes one wonder how far down Pitkin did dip before it was elevated to build the sewers. It also may answer the question as to approximately when Pitkin was through routed with Old South Rd. It may have been done at that time or it may have been done as I said in another post when the subway was being built. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 23:12:15 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Randyo on Sat Jan 29 22:45:31 2011. It'd be curious indeed if that work was done *after* the subway construction. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 23:14:03 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 21:36:41 2011. wow,9 years ago that was posted.looking at it I see where doug left out some parts&didn`t post exactly what I wrote.since I gave him a "laundry list"of other stubs,stations& tunnels this is understandable. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 23:15:06 2011, in response to Re: PROFF Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 23:05:43 2011. post them,or are you a coward? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 23:18:06 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by f179dj on Sat Jan 29 22:48:52 2011. Indeed it is! :)
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 23:18:28 2011, in response to Re: PROFF Re: 76st what happened?, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 23:15:06 2011. I will post them when you either post suitable proof of the existence of the station at 76/Pitkin or admit that you are a liar and a fantasist. That is the challenge I made to you. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 23:18:34 2011, in response to Re: PROFF Re: 76st what happened?, posted by f179dj on Sat Jan 29 23:06:17 2011. he`s stretching the truth a bit .I have conclusive proof that nothing was built past 184st. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 23:20:17 2011, in response to Re: PROFF Re: 76st what happened?, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 23:18:28 2011. take your medication,lay down& you`ll fell better in the morning. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 23:22:35 2011, in response to Re: PROFF Re: 76st what happened?, posted by f179dj on Sat Jan 29 23:06:17 2011. Well ... I've taken the relay back there a couple of times, so I know we're good for about 184/185ish before that pesky wall. And the catwalk does sorta qualify as a platform, at least for those with a pass. :) |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 23:28:44 2011, in response to Re: PROFF Re: 76st what happened?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 23:22:35 2011. FYI:the 4 uppertracks do not have a concrete wall at subways end.its a 12 by 12 timber wall put in as a temp.wall to facilate future construction. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 23:37:03 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 23:14:03 2011. What did he leave out? Were there even more outlandish claims? Did you see how the claims he left in were evaluated at the time? Your credibility was shot with the community here before you even bought a computer:Posted by David Pirmann - Web Site Host on Fri Jan 10 15:11:15 2003 Dontcha know that engineers who screw up ALWAYS commit suicide? (Sinking Library Syndrome). Seriously, that part reeked of urban legend to me; it casts a bad light on the rest of the story. I'm with Sparky, show us the pictures.... Posted by Paul Matus on Fri Jan 10 13:42:20 2003 THe BkEgl has a full-page story in 1916? Give us a date. This would be an easy one to check, Doug. [It was, of course, never found.] Posted by Paul Matus on Sat Jan 11 00:01:45 2003 I wrote to Joe Brennan, who said: "This was the IRT tunnel heading, not station, into 4 Ave off the present day IRT line. Very dramatic here. Not an error, a change of plans by the PSC. "I guess the rest of this is as accurate." Posted by jt_bklyn on Fri Jan 10 14:01:56 2003 One more thing - a 600 foot subway tunnel under Bedford Ave?? Sorry, I don't buy that either. I know that there a pieces of tunnel beneath other lines with the intention to be built (like at the IND Utica Ave) but 600 feet is 3 blocks - I've also never heard of any plan to build any subway under Bedford Ave, esp. the IND (since it is claimed to be below the G line). I am thinking that this post is mostly legend.... Posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jan 10 15:06:39 2003 Hmmmm .... Steve Krokowski? Sounds a little too much like "crock," if you catch my drift. Posted by J-TrainTony on Fri Jan 10 20:19:14 2003 Whether 76th St. or the BMT Pacific St. or any of that stuff exists or not, I don't know, I have no proof either way. I will tell you one fact, however- all of that post is complete hearsay. Think about it- BMTman is posting a letter form someone else, with no signature or proof that Steve wrote it. In fact, one can't contact Steve without going through BMTman. Also, in this letter from someone else, all the pieces of information are all told to Steve by unnamed people. "Eyewitness accounts" are not eyewitness accounts if unnamed person A tells person B who tells person C. Person C has NOT received an eyewitness account, he has received hearsay. An eyewitness account is if person A tells person C what he saw. I am sorry, I am not calling anyone a liar, or saying that BMTman is purposely presenting untruths, or Steve, for that matter. Number one, because Steve didn't present it, BMTman did, so no one can challenge it. It's all third and fourth hand information. In a court of law, all of that post would be dismissed as complete lack of any hard evidence. Actually, to be honest, rather than clearing up any doubts, it solidified my doubts. In all due respect, I will no longer even discuss 76th St. with any of you, because now we have entered the realm of UFO talk. All the "proof" is based on hearsay, uttered by people that "can't be named". Again, I'm very sorry, but this is beyond silly. Posted by American Pig on Fri Jan 10 21:37:21 2003 The fact that you called it a "myth" says something about how truthful this all is. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 23:38:48 2011, in response to Re: PROFF Re: 76st what happened?, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 23:18:34 2011. You only have conclusive proof of your own inability to read. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 23:49:22 2011, in response to Re: PROFF Re: 76st what happened?, posted by tunnelrat on Sat Jan 29 23:28:44 2011. Best I remember is that it was dark and cruddy ... if it wasn't concrete, couldn't tell ... |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Jan 30 00:02:58 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 23:37:03 2011. Kew Gardens: Thank you for those interesting links that go back to 2003. I see that I was active in that discussion as well.76 Street is a great subject to talk about especially when you have about three feet of snow in your yard and no place to go. I try to keep an open mind on this thing but as I said way back then what we are lacking is any hard evidence. Again thank you for your research. Larry, Redbirdr33 |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Jan 30 00:03:47 2011, in response to Re: Time to put this myth to rest Was: 76st what happened?, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sat Jan 29 23:37:03 2011. Kew Gardens: Thank you for those interesting links that go back to 2003. I see that I was active in that discussion as well.76 Street is a great subject to talk about especially when you have about three feet of snow in your yard and no place to go. I try to keep an open mind on this thing but as I said way back then what we are lacking is any hard evidence. Again thank you for your research. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Jan 30 00:07:27 2011, in response to Re: 76st what happened?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jan 29 23:18:06 2011. Selkirk: So they now have rowboats in the 76 Street Tunnel?Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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