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Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 01:35:19 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 20 01:30:16 2010. Not right now. Me, Vincent and Max are heading over to Fever and will be hooking up with Annie later. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 20 01:39:00 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jun 19 23:03:19 2010. That's because it basically is considered "foreign" here, they don't need to make it "seem" like that.Wow, and I thought that is was just Olog being stuck in 1957. I guess golf, tennis and boxing are all foreign sports too. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 20 01:43:55 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jun 19 23:09:51 2010. It's not mainstream here, it's mostly first generation immigrants that love it, and less as much, by second generation immigrants.These people are all immigrants?? Good thing it wasn't in Arizona or they would have had reasonable suspicion according to you. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 20 01:45:14 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 19 23:12:56 2010. That's becasue NYC has a disproportionate % of immigrants. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 20 01:53:28 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 19 23:09:41 2010. I can't imagine playing soccer in such heat. That was my point.Unfortunately, because of extreme winters in most of the US, we play a Spring-to-Fall season instead of the Aug-May seasons played almost everywhere else. Scandinavian countries and former Soviet countries do the same. The TB Rowdies used to be the main rival of the Cosmos in the NASL Era. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 20 02:00:21 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 19 21:47:48 2010. I wonder how the Brits will cope being eliminated from such an "EASY" group?Have you noticed that Fytton, Deaks and KGT have disappeared from OTChat? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 20 02:02:24 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by Easy on Sat Jun 19 22:36:28 2010. The sightlines seem good for baseball. Why so few people? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 20 02:08:38 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jun 19 22:48:14 2010. It was THEFT! REEF The REF!! |
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Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 20 02:09:30 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by Easy on Sat Jun 19 23:59:05 2010. They should send that ref back to Timbuctu.Wait...he IS from Timbuctu! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:22:01 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jun 19 23:12:56 2010. I remember going to games at Metropolitan Oval. Most of the adults spoke Italian or German, or Yugoslavian(in later years). Whenever I was on an M train leaving Fresh Pond going to Met in the summer, I always observed that soccer had taken over the park. Actually, that's not Metropolitan Oval, that's Farmer's Oval, if I am not mistaken. Isn't Metropolitan Oval the soccer field in Mapeth, next to the NY Connecting RR tracks, just north west of where Forest Ave and Metro Ave meet? That's the soccer field my friend used to play at when we were kids: http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qsk4h88v70y1&scene=52594659&lvl=1&sty=b&where1=Metropolitan%20Ave%2C%20Forest%20Hills%2C%20NY%2011375 |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:24:14 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 20 02:02:24 2010. It's never good to watch a baseball game in the middle of a huge football stadium. The stadium is even large for football. The sidelines of the football field are also much farther from the seats than other football stadiums I have been in. The baseball field is completely lost in the field of that stadium. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:24:48 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 20 01:35:11 2010. Yes, you are correct. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:27:52 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 20 01:43:55 2010. Cool, they managed to get all the people that care in one spot. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:28:35 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 20 02:08:38 2010. Didn't help soccer's cause in this country. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:29:18 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 20 02:00:21 2010. Probably because they actually care about Soccer in places like England. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:34:48 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 20 01:39:00 2010. Golf no. There is no doubt golf is mainstream in this country. But not necessarily because people like to watch it, but because many like to play it. In fact, it's more popular than ever. It probably is more mainstream to watch though though too than soccer is. Tiger Woods has done wonders for that (although he may have done wonders to twart it too, lol). Tennis? probably also more mainsteam than soccer, but still a lesser sport. People tune in to watch the Williams sisters, or years ago when Sampras or Agassi used to play, or the Jensen brothers when they used to play, but it's not something that holds the country like football, baseball, or basketball here. I used to go to the US Open a lot in the 90's when I used to get free tickets from a cousin I had that played in the open from Europe. Most of the audience were rich older people, or "foreigners".Boxing? It's gone down and down in popularity. I think it was much more popular decades past. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:38:25 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by SMAZ on Sun Jun 20 01:53:28 2010. Unfortunately, because of extreme winters in most of the US, we play a Spring-to-Fall season instead of the Aug-May seasons played almost everywhere elseMany European countries have "extreme" winters too, in addition to the Scandanavian countries. Granted there are a lot of warm weather countries too that hold soccer dear. LOL, "the Cosmos". I used to know a few people that used to go to Cosmos games at Giant Stadium.....the were all foreign born. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:40:30 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:34:48 2010. And why do people that like to soccer feel the need to have to make it seem so popular when it really isn't here? It's okay. People in foreign countries make fun of American football too. No bid deal. You enjoy soccer....and your connections to "the old country" are higher than most in this country. Nothing wrong with that. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:43:03 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:40:30 2010. ...and to add, when Europeans make fun of american football, they aren't quite as "kind" as Americans that make fun of soccer.My relatives in Europe laugh their asses off at NFL Football, calling them a bunch of fat American pigs walking on the field. They consider Americans fat slobs to begin with, and their perception of NFL football fits right into that. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:44:10 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by Easy on Sat Jun 12 15:36:41 2010. Yeah especially when the whole ref thing was rigged against the Americans. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 09:15:02 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:40:30 2010. Who is making it more popular than it is? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 20 09:30:56 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:22:01 2010. Yes.I was unclear. First sentence is me agreeing with you that immigrants like soccer. Second sentence was my observation at Farmer's Oval. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 09:50:34 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 20 09:30:56 2010. Ahhh, yes, now I understand. I got what you meant (meaning the metro oval), but then when I reread it and was going to comment, I noticed the Fresh Pond thing which confused me. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 09:51:21 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 09:15:02 2010. People like Smaz posting a video trying to prove how much "Americans love soccer" trying to show one event. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 10:40:27 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 09:51:21 2010. I think that you underestimate how many Americans (immigrant or not) like soccer and overestimate the rest of the world. Soccer is the most popular sport in the world, but it's not the most popular sport in many countries. For example:China - table tennis Japan - baseball, sumo Canada, Russia(?) - hockey Croatia - basketball(?) India, Pakistan, much of the Caribbean - cricket South Africa, Ireland(?), New Zealand(?) - rugby Isn't speed skating almost as popular in the Netherlands as soccer or is that somewhere else? Norway? |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 20 10:57:26 2010, in response to WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010. That new Red Bull Arena over in Harrison seats all of 25,000 people and their Venezuelas. It is right in the middle of the so called "hot bed" of American soccer - New York City, Newark, Kearny, Union City, and the surrounding areas. 25,000 capacity. College soccer draws tens of people to the NCAA Division 1 Championship game. Of course, the teams are usually Philadelphia Textile against Indiana University - Purdue University Fort Wayne. I'm sorry but soccer is a joke. B7 soccer from the American pitch above the high school level. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 20 11:15:26 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 10:40:27 2010. Yes, the Netherlands is the speed skating country. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 11:31:31 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 20 11:15:26 2010. I thought so. They know their speed skaters like we know the best baseball and basketball players.Is soccer the most popular sport in Russia or hockey? Any idea? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 20 11:57:31 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 11:31:31 2010. I honestly don't know. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 12:06:52 2010, in response to WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010. "That's all it takes. A little tug. You go down...if you're Italian you gotta go down. It's the law."Alexi Lalas describing the foul to give the Azzurri a penalty kick. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 12:34:22 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 10:40:27 2010. That doesn't prove anything though. Americans love both Baseball and Football. Many Americans are fanatical about both. Doesn't lessen the fact that those two are still the most popular US sports.And Canada is most definitely hockey. They like American Football more than most other countries too. I never considered Canada a big "soccer" country either. And whether the Netherlands has speed skating as more popular than soccer (which I can't verify, it may or may not be true), they are still quite fanatical about Soccer. I was there when the late 90's World Cup was going on. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 12:35:56 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 12:34:22 2010. My point is that there's room for soccer in the US. It may never be the most popular sport here, but there's no reason to be afraid of it. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 12:40:50 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 12:35:56 2010. I never said there wasn't. Of course there's room. And people aren't "afraid" of it. Most just think it's a funny sport, no different than Europeans (and other Soccer countries) that find American football hilarious. They aren't "scared" of it either. As I said somewhere else here, my European relatives think NFL is hilarious. They already think that Americans are fat pigs, and aren't afraid to let that be known, and that NFL football is a bunch of fat American pigs running around, which fits right into their stereotype of how they feel about Americans. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 12:50:37 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 12:40:50 2010. They are afraid of it. That's why the go so far to disparage it and start getting patriotic.Europeans only make fun of football with Americans. It would never come up otherwise. Like with us and cricket. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 16:35:47 2010, in response to WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010. Likely the worst nickname in sports history.Sent of with a second yellow card when the defender made the type of dive that soccer haters love to hate. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 16:37:56 2010, in response to Kaka (Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 16:35:47 2010. Klinnsmann just called African teams "very emotional". |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 16:45:41 2010, in response to WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010. France refuse to practice in preparation for tomorrows match.link |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 20 16:46:04 2010, in response to Kaka (Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 16:35:47 2010. Wonder if anyone was yelling "Dudu" or "Pupu" from the stands . . . |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 20 19:23:45 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 20 10:57:26 2010. Steroids have found their way to soccer. Steroids make you bigger, faster, and strong. They make your fast twitch muscles respond faster. They make you recuperate faster.I wonder how many airline pilots are on the juice to look good for the stewardesses? Especially the ones I see at Virgin. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 20 19:27:38 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 20 19:23:45 2010. I wonder how many airline pilots are on the juice to look good for the stewardesses? Especially the ones I see at Virgin.No. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 20 19:42:27 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 20 19:27:38 2010. Well the stewardesses at Virgin are hot. I remember seeing a young blond taking Air Train from Jamaica to JFK, and she really looked like the glamorous young ladies of the 70's and 80's.Back to business, things are fucked up here in Tampa. Clouds tops at 40,000+ and planes are in danger. Link Here |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 20 19:52:35 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 20 19:42:27 2010. ... things are fucked up here in Tampa. Clouds tops at 40,000+ and planes are in danger.Excellent post. Thanks for the update.  |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 20 19:56:34 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 20 19:52:35 2010. I'm trying to help. Doing the best I can. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 20 19:59:47 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 20 19:56:34 2010. Yeah. Those pilots need to turn around and go someplace else. The storms down there are up to 50,000'. I am sure the passengers are frightened... |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Jun 20 20:08:07 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:24:14 2010. Yeah, well to accommodate the baseball field, the stands had to be moved back. After the Marlins leave in 2012, plans are to move the stands back in to make it a more intimate setting. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 20 20:13:01 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 20 19:59:47 2010. Yeah. Those pilots need to turn around and go someplace else. The storms down there are up to 50,000'. I am sure the passengers are frightened...For some reason, I don't think they'll be serving food and beverage tonight. Pilots are reporting turbulence. I'm going up to the airport in a few. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jun 20 20:35:37 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread, posted by cortelyounext on Sun Jun 20 19:59:47 2010. A DC-3 just made an emergency landing in Berlin. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 01:20:44 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:34:48 2010. Golf no. There is no doubt golf is mainstream in this country. But not necessarily because people like to watch it, but because many like to play it. In fact, it's more popular than ever. It probably is more mainstream to watch though though too than soccer is.Wrong on both counts. If you go by participation rates, soccer blows golf away. If you go by TV viewership rates of big events for both sports, soccer still blows golf away. The Slovenia game (a mere First Round match played early in the morning on a weekday) blew away the ratings of anything golf. It destroyed Stanley Cup ratings (which were in primetime) and is right up there with NBA Finals ratings (also in primetime). Of course many people (like me) watched both the WC Game and the NBA Game 7. I used to go to the US Open a lot in the 90's when I used to get free tickets from a cousin I had that played in the open from Europe. Most of the audience were rich older people, or "foreigners". That's because the tickets are very expensive for ordinary plebes. Boxing? It's gone down and down in popularity. I think it was much more popular decades past. That's true. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 01:31:36 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:43:03 2010. My relatives in Europe laugh their asses off at NFL Football, calling them a bunch of fat American pigs walking on the field.They are just ribbing you because you are there. They probably don't give two shits about American football one way or the other. If I had a relative from Pakistan or India, I would probably make fun of cricket or field hockey just for the hell of it even though I have no opinion of those sports and since I like baseball, I would actually probably actually like cricket. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 21 01:32:14 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 01:20:44 2010. Speaking of NBA Game 7, it did a record rating.Boxing PPV's do big business in the US, but UFC on average is bigger. In Mexico, boxing is still doing well on free tv. Sometimes it beats most soccer games. |
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