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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Aug 25 14:35:46 2006, in response to Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SilverFox on Fri Aug 25 14:31:04 2006. If it is by Lincoln Harbor or in that area, the 158 should help. Look here for the schedule. Fare is $2.30 one way. |
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Posted by SilverFox on Fri Aug 25 15:01:37 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Aug 25 14:35:46 2006. Thanks! Now that just leaves me with the best way to get to the PABT from what was formerly known as a "two-fare zone" in Queens. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Fri Aug 25 15:03:58 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SilverFox on Fri Aug 25 15:01:37 2006. The E train leaves you right downstairs from the PABT, or the 7 train leaves you one long block (underground or over-the-ground) from the bus terminal. |
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Posted by SilverFox on Fri Aug 25 16:51:55 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Fri Aug 25 15:03:58 2006. Yeah, I knew that much, but my problem with the whole damned thing is taking a bus to the subway, the subway to the PABT, and the PABT through the Lincoln Sphincter to Weehawken. Three transfers, an interminable ride, and too many permutations and combinations for there to be a problem somewhere, preventing me from getting to work on time or at all. If the 7 train derails, or there is yet another slow order on the Queens Boulevard line, or the Lincoln Sphincter is closed down for a terrorist investigation, or any one of a hundred other little breakdowns, multiplied by the number of transfers, and my commute is a wrap for the day. As it stands, it will take at least an hour and a half, if not two hours, for this whole commute each way, half of which will be waiting for the next vehicle, or walking to it to catch it. No thanks. Maybe the Railroad to Penn Station and either walk to the PABT or indulge myself in a one-stop subway ride if the weather is too inclement? But I am still over a mile from the RR station. What will that do to the commuting time? AK |
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Posted by P-rad M on Fri Aug 25 17:26:26 2006, in response to Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SilverFox on Fri Aug 25 14:31:04 2006. Just take the NY Waterway and take it to Port Imperial. Its really easy. I just tried riding the NY Waterway from Port Imperial to Pier 79 on 39th St. Mnahattan and its pretty good. And the light rail is right across the street from the Port Imperial Terminal, the only think is that you have to cross a highway because the overpass isn't done and won't be for a while. And their buses are free in Manhattan so its pretty good. Just wish that it wasn't 6 bucks for one way, 3-4 bucks would be great for the fare. But buses leave the PABT all the time and goes around Weehawken so you have wide options.P-rad M P-rad M |
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Posted by P-rad M on Fri Aug 25 17:27:40 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by P-rad M on Fri Aug 25 17:26:26 2006. Just go to NY Waterway website.www.nywaterway.com P-rad M |
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Posted by L Train on Fri Aug 25 18:03:07 2006, in response to Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SilverFox on Fri Aug 25 14:31:04 2006. I'm not 100% sure on this one (I know if I'm off by a little a certain member will have a temper tantrum) but I think the Hudson Bergen Light Rail serves Weekhawken. Perhaps you can take the PATH to Hoboken for the HBLR. |
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Posted by JohnL on Fri Aug 25 19:18:40 2006, in response to Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SilverFox on Fri Aug 25 14:31:04 2006. Citibank? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Aug 25 19:39:26 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SilverFox on Fri Aug 25 16:51:55 2006. If you leave early enough, drive to Hunters Point Avenue and park on 21st Street near the NYSDOT building. Spaces are usually available until about 7:15. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 25 19:42:12 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by L Train on Fri Aug 25 18:03:07 2006. I'm not 100% sure on this one (I know if I'm off by a little a certain member will have a temper tantrum) but I think the Hudson Bergen Light Rail serves Weekhawken.Not bad. Of course you could look at the map to become 100% sure... |
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Posted by P-rad M on Fri Aug 25 20:24:30 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by L Train on Fri Aug 25 18:03:07 2006. But the Weehawken stops are only Lincoln Harbor and Port Imperial on the HBLR. And plus you can take the HBLR from Pavonia-Newport PATH, its just the Journal Sq. train there only, and plus Tonnelle Ave. trains from West Side Ave. are faster.P-rad M |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Aug 25 20:50:08 2006, in response to Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SilverFox on Fri Aug 25 14:31:04 2006. One of the positions I am answering in my job hunt will involve a reverse commute from Eastern Queens to Weehawken, NJ.From the map, I see that Weehawken is just outside the mouth of the Lincoln Tunnel, but probably too far out of the reach of the PATH Hoboken line. If your near the LIRR and your place of employment is near Lincoln Harbour, then I'd suggest LIRR to Penn, walk to PATH, PATH to HBLR. From about August 2001 to June 2002, I used NJT's 126 to go to Hoboken and it skirted around Lincoln Harbour by about two blocks or so. It was so-so in the morning, but afternoons, it was just a pointless waste. Morning traffic can be bad and the buses will come late if there's a big delay with morning inbound traffic, but it didn't seem that bad. Afternoon traffic was just always horrible and it never moved. Personally, I'd rather take my chance on "three train monte" than the bus at PABT. If you position requires you go to Weehakwen proper, then you're sorta forced into taking the buses since the Lincoln Harbour and Port Imperial* HBLR stations aren't close enough to the town proper. I'd still give the edge to the LIRR to getting into Manhattan if it isn't going to ruin you financially. It's a bit more comfortable and the ride's faster in most cases. If you're cheap, you can walk to PABT since it isn't that bad a walk in most cases. *An elevator similar to the one constructed at 9th/Congress Streets should have been built at Port Imperial to make the station remotely useful to Weehawken residents. |
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Posted by P-rad M on Fri Aug 25 20:55:55 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Fri Aug 25 20:50:08 2006. Well, he can still take the HBLR to Bergenline Ave cause Weehawken Proper is right there, just buy a HBLR ticket with a bus transfer if its requires you to take the bus from the station.P-rad M |
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Posted by SilverFox on Fri Aug 25 21:17:47 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by P-rad M on Fri Aug 25 20:55:55 2006. Thanks for your suggestions and input. From the way this all sounds, I might just have to refuse any interview or offer at Weehawken that doesn't include helicopter service. LIRR to PATH to Light Rail? LIRR to a walk to PABT to a bus to light rail? LIRR to a bus to a ferry costing $11 each way, combined? A bus to the subway to either PABT, PATH, Light Rail and/or a ferry? Who needs that shit? Like I said, if any one of the links in this chain poops out one day, I may as well not go to work that day. And even if they don't, I'll spend too much time smelling bus fumes and steel dust than roses. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Aug 25 22:49:32 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by P-rad M on Fri Aug 25 20:55:55 2006. However, it isn't that close. Furthermore, an elevator, if put in there, could be the final coffin in the nail for the 23 route, allowing for it to be killed. (Former #23 Boulevard East customers could instead use the 128 instead from Port Imperial on Boulevard East---assuming that private property isn't in the way.)The buses from the #23 (which number about 6-8 in maximum usage) could then be redirected to other uses, such as improvements on the 2 route (or buses could be taken back and redeployed elsewhere in New Jersey, such as Camden). |
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Posted by P-rad M on Fri Aug 25 22:57:24 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Aug 25 22:49:32 2006. And also at the Port Imperial light rail station, the overpass isn't done, but when it is I believe it going to become a great combo, its going to connect the Port Imperial ferry terminal, the light rail station and into Weehawken Proper cause it looks like it has an extention after the staircase to the light rail.P-rad M |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Sat Aug 26 00:55:19 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SilverFox on Fri Aug 25 21:17:47 2006. Adam...fastest route would be LIRR to Penn...then Path to Hoboken. Then take the HBLR that is marked to Tonnelle Ave. That (I believe) is the stop in Weehawken.Don't forget....you can always move to NJ...at least you'd be paying less tax over there. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Aug 26 10:26:30 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SilverFox on Fri Aug 25 16:51:55 2006. Three transfers, an interminable ride, and too many permutations and combinations for there to be a problem somewhere, preventing me from getting to work on time or at all.If the 7 train derails, or there is yet another slow order on the Queens Boulevard line, or the Lincoln Sphincter is closed down for a terrorist investigation, or any one of a hundred other little breakdowns, multiplied by the number of transfers, and my commute is a wrap for the day. As it stands, it will take at least an hour and a half, if not two hours, for this whole commute each way, half of which will be waiting for the next vehicle, or walking to it to catch it. No thanks. Well heck. How long do you think it takes me to get from central Suffolk County to Houston Street in Manhattan? And I have to deal with the LIRR, which stumbles from one catastrophe to another. Lengthy commuting times are pretty much unavoidable in the New York area, and in most other large cities too. Be happy that the cost of commuting from Queens to Weehawken would be a lot more reasonable than if you had to make a long ride on a commuter train. My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by P-rad M on Sat Aug 26 11:33:06 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by BMT Guy on Sat Aug 26 00:55:19 2006. The Tonnelle Ave stop is 51st St. and Tonnelle Ave in North Bergen. Lincoln Harbor and Port Imperial are the Weehawken stops. And moving to NJ is a good idea too, saves you on commute. But the only places to live now in this area are condos.P-rad M |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Aug 26 13:45:02 2006, in response to Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SilverFox on Fri Aug 25 14:31:04 2006. You haven't mentioned if you're near an LIRR station.LIRR to Penn, NY Waterways bus to the ferry (walk in good weather - it's good for you) plus ferry is a reasonable trip. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Aug 26 14:02:39 2006, in response to Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SilverFox on Fri Aug 25 14:31:04 2006. As others here have posted. That commute is a lot easier than you think it is. |
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Posted by 7trainkrys on Sat Aug 26 16:01:09 2006, in response to Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SilverFox on Fri Aug 25 14:31:04 2006. If you took LIRR or an express bus from Queens to Manhattan, it would take half the problems away. I remember doing a similar trip to a job interview. It's too much to go through daily. |
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Posted by P-rad M on Sat Aug 26 16:01:53 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 26 13:45:02 2006. The fare could be a little lower, lets say 4 bucks and I'll take it everytime I go to Manhattan cause I really liked the trip when I tried it yesterday.P-rad M |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sat Aug 26 18:03:27 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Aug 26 10:26:30 2006. You do realize, I hope, that in terms of distance, your commute is much longer than his, and that you spend most of your time sitting on a train, while for his much shorter (in distance, not in time) commute, he will be spending much if not most of his time standing and walking or waiting for a train or bus.DISCLAIMER: This post was written in London, where the Sabbath ended at 8:50pm local time, or 3:50pm New York time. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sat Aug 26 18:10:26 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 25 19:42:12 2006. Maybe he's afraid that the map is wrong.DISCLAIMER: This post was written in London, where the Sabbath ended at 8:50pm local time, or 3:50pm New York time. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Aug 26 18:48:32 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Aug 25 19:42:12 2006. >>>>...a certain member....<<Heh, member, apt description. |
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Posted by SilverFox on Sat Aug 26 20:01:56 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by 7trainkrys on Sat Aug 26 16:01:09 2006. It's too much to go through daily. Thanks. It's what I've suspected. It's not the total time on the road (I'd figure about an hour and a half each way, which is a bitch in itself), but the number of different connections that has to be made. If one of those connections breaks down, or has a "sick passenger," or is "on strike," or falls victim to ice in the river or snow on the road, I can't get to work on time. Two to four different vehicles over two to four authorities over two to four different rights-of-way is too much to ask for it to all be choreographed properly day in and day out. And furthermore, it's not like I can just sink my suit-covered-anus into a seat and sleep for the hour-and-a-half. I will spend half of my time or more getting to or waiting for the next vehicle. Who needs that? This is not "railfanning." This is trying to get to a livelihood. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Aug 26 20:52:32 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by 7trainkrys on Sat Aug 26 16:01:09 2006. It all depends on how good the job is. If it's something you can really sink your teeth into, then it's worth some bullshit while you find a place to live a lot closer. If not, well you know the answer...your pal, Fred |
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Posted by 7trainkrys on Sat Aug 26 22:18:27 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SilverFox on Sat Aug 26 20:01:56 2006. What about driving and paying only one way toll on a hudson river crossing? Did you factor in parking costs? There's no way that will take longer than public transportation even if stuck in traffic. There's a lot of people who live in New Jersey and commute to Long Island as well. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Aug 26 22:44:20 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by David of Broadway on Sat Aug 26 18:03:27 2006. You do realize, I hope, that in terms of distance, your commute is much longer than his, and that you spend most of your time sitting on a train, while for his much shorter (in distance, not in time) commute, he will be spending much if not most of his time standing and walking or waiting for a train or bus.I'm not so sure that getting to sit on a train for over an hour each way as I do is always a good thing. I'd actually prefer more standing and walking. My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Aug 26 22:49:52 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Aug 26 18:48:32 2006. Does that make you horny? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Aug 26 22:52:22 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SilverFox on Fri Aug 25 21:17:47 2006. Yeah but you've been an unemployed bum for like years now, right? Shouldn't you just take this job and suffer for the benefit of society? |
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Posted by 7trainkrys on Sat Aug 26 23:10:54 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Aug 26 22:52:22 2006. How does the unemployed bum have a vehicle and then complain about the inflexibility of the MTA? |
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Posted by SilverFox on Sat Aug 26 23:15:56 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Aug 26 22:52:22 2006. you've been an unemployed bum for like years now, right? Short answer: Wrong. What crawled up your ass and died? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Aug 26 23:21:34 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by AlM on Sat Aug 26 13:45:02 2006. Yes he did. He said he was about a mile and a half, IIRC. |
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Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Sat Aug 26 23:55:04 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SilverFox on Sat Aug 26 23:15:56 2006. No offense but you did kinda sorta give that impression in that other thread where you were looking for employment. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Aug 26 23:56:04 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Sat Aug 26 23:55:04 2006. Thank you. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Aug 27 00:37:43 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SilverFox on Sat Aug 26 23:15:56 2006. He can't help it. When he starts up like that just let it go and reply to some other post in the thread (or start a new thread). He's a slow learner... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 27 00:43:40 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Aug 27 00:37:43 2006. YOU SHOULD ROT IN HELL SCUMBAG ASSHOLE. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Aug 27 02:04:50 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Aug 26 18:48:32 2006. Ugh, nothing could be further from the truth. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Aug 27 02:07:09 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 27 00:43:40 2006. There's the true Brian. All nice and rested up. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Aug 27 02:12:05 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Aug 26 22:49:52 2006. Ugh, nothing could be further from the truth. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 27 02:19:46 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Aug 27 02:12:05 2006. You seem to be enjoying a certain member. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Sun Aug 27 02:24:22 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Aug 26 22:44:20 2006. You do have the option, of course, of standing up and walking around on the LIRR.You don't have that option while walking from bus to train or from train to bus. I just find it a bit strange that you think that the price one pays to commute should depend on how much time the commute takes, not on how much distance it covers. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Aug 27 11:26:24 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by David of Broadway on Sun Aug 27 02:24:22 2006. I just find it a bit strange that you think that the price one pays to commute should depend on how much time the commute takes, not on how much distance it covers.I don't quite follow. LIRR prices are high not so much because of time or distance, but rather because it's a commuter rail line as opposed to an urban mass transit system. My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by SilverFox on Sun Aug 27 15:26:43 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Sat Aug 26 23:55:04 2006. So that justifies him in making a very sniveling and false accusation? What does the mere fact of looking for employment have to do with someone's uncouth and rather envious comment? |
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Posted by SilverFox on Sun Aug 27 15:42:58 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 27 00:43:40 2006. And then you have the unmitigated chutzpah to go to Shul on Saturday. Fucking hypocrite. Typical. I have renewed respect for myself. I know it's not the Shul, the keeping Kosher, the Torah. It's the neshumma. If you are just an evil son-of-a-bitch, all the Torah and Kosher and Shul in the world can't make you a mensch. Take that to Gehenom with you. |
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Posted by BIE on Sun Aug 27 15:44:29 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Aug 26 22:52:22 2006. Brian.Walk a mile in Adam's shoes. I have (cluephone rings) IT AIN'T EASY. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Aug 27 15:44:36 2006, in response to Re: Reverse Commute From Queens To Weehawken, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Aug 26 22:52:22 2006. Low blow. B7 yu0 |
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