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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 13:29:41 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 13:28:11 2014.

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That is the issue, people are just using anything to grasp at it. There's lots of money to be made from it.

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 13:29:57 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 13:07:53 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You smack just the dems, makes me smack the GOP. THIW.

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Sep 6 13:30:11 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 13:26:35 2014.

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Bad taxidermy. Leave it to you use to use a picture of a duck. The rest of the audience is free to imagine their own punchlines.....

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 13:30:16 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by bingbong on Sat Sep 6 13:27:22 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That is correct.

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 13:30:20 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 13:28:11 2014.

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Are you disputing that he was "banging the pots" over the predictions of global cooling in the 70s?

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 13:30:55 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 13:29:57 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Nope....I attack the Right too. I did in this very thread no less.

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 6 13:32:16 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 13:28:11 2014.

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Actually, he was an engineer. Extrapolating existing data into the future without questioning it is a fine engineering practice. :)


(Smiley indicates unpublished disclaimer.)


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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 13:32:27 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 13:09:10 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
But I never had to ... Breitbart, you and several others already wrestled that one to the ground. By the time I arrived on scene, it was all over and they were hosing it down. :)

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 13:33:12 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by bingbong on Sat Sep 6 13:30:11 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I couldn't find one of a doughnut with the same caption, for you.

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Sep 6 13:34:43 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 13:15:24 2014.

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So?

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Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 6 13:35:14 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 13:30:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Heh, the imaginary "right". Try and find for us a single mainstream politician that wants to actually breach the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, and then you might have found "the right".

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 13:36:32 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 6 13:32:16 2014.

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Excellent.

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 13:37:00 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 13:32:27 2014.

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Just as you and your irk do the other way..... :)

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 13:37:04 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 13:32:27 2014.

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Yes and as we all know, you are never wrong !






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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 13:37:19 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by bingbong on Sat Sep 6 13:34:43 2014.

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LOL.

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Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 6 13:37:36 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 13:28:11 2014.

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Since when are any of the globull-warming-pushing politicians scientists? Is Barack "Suckitt" Obama one?

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Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 6 13:38:32 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 6 13:18:24 2014.

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There is conclusive evidence of global warming

Such as?

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Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 13:39:36 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 6 13:37:36 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You have to look under Liberal rule #27B: Double Standards

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Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 6 13:40:01 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 13:29:04 2014.

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He said there's "conclusive evidence of global warming". There isn't. A supposed average of a single degree from various instruments of differing calibration over a period of a century (when technology was still evolving) is not "conclusive evidence" by far.

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Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 13:41:20 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 6 13:38:32 2014.

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Its hot today



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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 13:41:29 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 13:14:37 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Have at it, have fun ... if this is the big winning score for the GOP, forgive me if I giggle. The way I look at it, when Biden runs for President, he's going to have to ramp up the stupid to beat THIS. :)

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Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 6 13:41:56 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 13:15:24 2014.

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It's called blasphemy and twisting the scriptures. Kerry's a liberal, remember.

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by Fred G on Sat Sep 6 13:42:23 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 12:48:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Mos def is true.

Your pal,
Fred

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Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 6 13:43:14 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 13:41:20 2014.

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I've heard of that. I remember it was called "weather". It sure ain't a chicken-little scenario.

Average highs by me have been in the mid-70s this summer, with lows in the mid-50s sometimes dipping into the 40s. (In August!)

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 13:44:58 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by AlM on Sat Sep 6 13:18:24 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
When the threat was global cooling (only republicans remember that one) the gas of concern was Sulphur Dioxide and others which reflected solar energy away ... with China and India burning coal to beat the band, there's a lot of SO2 up there again. It's quite possible that might have something to do with it.

DISCLAIMER: I am not an atmospherics or chemical scientist ... nor do I play one on tardchat. :)

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 13:45:01 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 13:30:20 2014.

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No, I'm disputing that it is in any way comparable to modern concerns about climate change.

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Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 13:45:49 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 6 13:37:36 2014.

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Who cares?

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 13:46:30 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 13:41:29 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Do you mean like Biden thinking that Africa is a country?


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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 13:50:33 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 13:45:01 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And exactly how much has the climate changed in the last 150 years and what proof is there that it will continue to trend upward or downward into a catastrophically dangerous condition?

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 13:55:49 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 13:50:33 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
There is a scientific consensus that the climate is changing and that such change is influenced by human activity.

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 14:00:14 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 13:37:04 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Plastic trip cocks ... what oh what is the world coming to? :)

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 14:00:50 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 13:37:00 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Ah well ... hopefully there'll be a better canard tomorrow. Chin up. :)

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 14:01:04 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 13:55:49 2014.

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I don't doubt that. Do you want to take a shot at answering my question now? Your comment certainly does not come close to answering the question that I asked.

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Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 14:01:40 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Sep 6 13:43:14 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And the world was created and reformed thousands of times over on the weather. It won't change that cycle just because we are here.

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 14:01:48 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 14:01:04 2014.

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Who said anything about catastrophe?

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Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 14:02:44 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 14:01:40 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yes, it will. Humans can influence the world more than any other being that has ever lived on or had influenced on the earth. Humans are the first species capable of destroying the world.

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 14:02:53 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 13:41:29 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Just to see the rationalizations by the extreme partisan leftists here was worth the debate. It's been comical actually the rationalized defenses that have come up.
My work is done here.


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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 14:03:56 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 14:01:48 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The extremist liberals who are making climate change a growth industry.

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 14:04:56 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 13:55:49 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
The earth has cooled and heated many times over, long before humans ever came here. You expect that to change just because we are here now? Remember, Long Island, Great Lakes, and shape of the continents in general wouldn't even be here if not for the Ice age and subsequent warming.
We are the blink of an eye in the earth's existence.

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 14:05:11 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 14:03:56 2014.

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I don't dispute that there are irrational liberals.

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 14:05:39 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 13:46:30 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Daily Wail ... lulz.

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 14:06:13 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 14:03:56 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
There's lots of money to be made on it. That's why many defend it to the death, no matter the weather. They even had to change to name to "climate change".

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 14:07:03 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 14:05:39 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That wasn't Biden speaking?

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 14:07:13 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 14:04:56 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
So what? The existence of natural phenomena does not mean that similar phenomena can't be man-made. The existence of natural floods and fires doesn't mean that man can't cause floods and fires.

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by AlM on Sat Sep 6 14:08:20 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 14:01:48 2014.

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You didn't, but lots of scientists do talk about catastrophe. And they often do so in ways that are not helpful to understanding what is proven and what is just a consequence of models that often don't agree with observations.

My fear is that a catastrophe really might be underway, but by overstating their case many scientists are looking too much like the boy who cried wolf and are discarding their credibility.



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Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 14:08:23 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 14:02:44 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
They are. But that doesn't mean that every natural (yes natural) disaster is man made. Everything is "man made climate change" to the extremists. They even had to change the name as "global warming" didn't cut it anymore.

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 14:08:57 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 14:06:13 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
They changed the name to climate change because of idiots who claimed that the LOCAL weather being cold somehow disproved GLOBAL warming.

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 14:09:07 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 14:07:13 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
There's no evidence that they have either. And what little there is is inconclusive.

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 14:09:30 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 14:02:53 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Don't forget to turn out the lights on the way out. :)

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Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Sep 6 14:10:01 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Sep 6 14:08:57 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No they changed it because the skewed data didn't back it up anymore. Also, they can add everything to it now, ""global warming" wasn't as inclusive. They had to do something to expand it.

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