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Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 16:59:32 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 15:35:59 2014. Of course it is. But it's Breitbart so the editing is likely heavy handed. I didn't hear the whole speech. LOL Breitbart.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 17:02:32 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 16:59:32 2014. LOL, Cspan. I linked it. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 17:04:38 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 17:02:32 2014. What's so funny about CSpan? They don't edit a guy's speech. Or falsely advertise it like Breitbart did with this one. That headline is crazy.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 17:07:09 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by David Fairthorne on Fri Sep 5 16:51:48 2014. That's even more absurd. That's like it's geared to children.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 5 17:18:29 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 16:41:46 2014. The other idiots, though, tended, to use religion like a club; e.g., homosexuality is a sin, thus gays and lesbians are not allowed to marry. I don't think many people would complain if it was stated that religion says we should help our fellow man. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 17:19:49 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 17:04:38 2014. Same speech. Kerry still claims that he has a responsibility under God, since before God created Man, he created the Earth, clearly stated in the Book of Genesis in Scripture, and that his God given responsibility is especially pressing in Muslim majority countries. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 17:23:03 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 16:41:46 2014. We usually gripe about somebody like Pat Robertson telling us how we're going to be punished for gay marriage or some such rot. I rolled my eyes at Kerry's words but thought it was tame comparatively.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 17:23:40 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 5 17:18:29 2014. No different. If one group can reference Scripture for their actions, or responsibility, or beliefs, so can an other. You can't hand pick that you like what Genesis says, but others can't quote Scripture for other things in their agenda. Kerry is USING scripture to support his claim that he "has a God given responsibility mandated in Genesis" to go after Climate change in Muslim counties, yet some other nut can't use wherever it says "man can't lie with man" in the Bible to push their agenda. An agenda using scripture in both cases. How come you defend one and criticize the other? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 17:26:14 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 17:23:03 2014. But you see, it's the same thing. Pat Robinson is a nut, but so is Kerry. You can't hand pick when you want to use something stated in Scripture for one idea, but condemn when Scripture is used for an other idea. And I roll my eyes at Pat Robinson and call him a religious nut too. (I can't stand religious nuts or those that use Scripture in this way). At least I am consistent. |
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Posted by David Fairthorne on Fri Sep 5 17:27:10 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 17:23:40 2014. In a secular nation, religion should never be the basis of policy making. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 17:29:14 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 17:26:14 2014. I think being told we're going to be punished for gay marriage is wackier than we should help our fellow man, don't you?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 17:29:51 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by David Fairthorne on Fri Sep 5 17:27:10 2014. It's not, unless you can point out where it is.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 17:30:29 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by David Fairthorne on Fri Sep 5 17:27:10 2014. Exactly. Yet as usual, the hypocritical left defends (or doesnt attack) this use of Scripture. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 17:31:35 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 17:29:14 2014. It doesn't matter the agenda. It's hypocritical to say that Scripture shouldn't be used in government, but then turn around and use Scripture for another agenda. Both are agendas. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 17:32:12 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 17:29:51 2014. "God given responsibility given to him by God based on Genesis"? Please. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 5 17:35:55 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 17:23:40 2014. Because one is using religion is restrict a group's (arguably) basic freedom, another one is using it promote environmentalism. To put it more simply, one person is using it constructively, the other is using it destructively. I'll have to agree with AlM and say that for Kerry to bring it up as a religious matter is not that good, particularly if he makes it sound like that's how govt policy is determined. Otherwise, I don't see anything wrong with believing in God, it's what he gets out of that belief that concerns me. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 17:39:42 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 17:32:12 2014. And the government policy part?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 17:43:23 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 17:31:35 2014. The agenda does matter because I'm more outraged over substance than just the mention of God. I don't like the mention of God in a speech but it doesn't outrage me as much as what exactly is said.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 5 17:45:28 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by David Fairthorne on Fri Sep 5 16:51:48 2014. I still find the interpretation to be gobbledygook. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 17:48:53 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 16:11:12 2014. Breitbart : 1 minute 25 secondsCSPAN : Kerry speaks for about 15 minutes. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 5 17:51:47 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 17:48:53 2014. Breitbart : 1 minute 25 secondsCSPAN : Kerry speaks for about 15 minutes. Too long for the American public's attention span. :-) |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 17:53:05 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 5 17:51:47 2014. The minute and a half ? yeah LOLyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Sep 5 17:59:37 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 17:48:53 2014. I'm sure Breitbart's excerpt was completely representative of the entire speech. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Sep 5 18:31:01 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 16:12:04 2014. What's the big deal? Taken in the context of the entire speech, this is nothing. Living according to one's morals isn't unconstitutional. Making religious dogma law is. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Sep 5 19:16:38 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 17:23:40 2014. The operative question here is....What variety of legislation is the Secretary of State proposing in order to reach this alleged biblical goal? All these RWers seek to legislate their RW religious dogma AS LAW. That's very very different than saying religious belief is personally guiding their enforcement of what is sound secular, science based policy. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 19:37:00 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 17:31:35 2014. There's a difference between referencing the Bible in connection to an "agenda" that stands up on its own merits, and supporting an agenda because you think the Bible tells you to. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Sep 5 20:41:11 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by 3-9 on Fri Sep 5 17:35:55 2014. Again...you can't pick and chose when to use religion in govt. Either you can or you can't. That's the point. Its not okay some of the time but not okay others just because you don't like the agenda being pushed. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Sep 5 20:42:51 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 17:43:23 2014. Again....its either right or wrong to use religion in govt. Don't complain about it for one idiot but claim it's okay with the other idiot based on his political position |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Sep 5 20:43:32 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 5 17:48:53 2014. Yes. And what is different? |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Sep 5 20:49:06 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Sep 5 20:43:32 2014. About 13 minutes and 35 seconds? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 5 21:51:14 2014, in response to Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by David Fairthorne on Fri Sep 5 14:37:37 2014. If only it was. |
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Posted by David Fairthorne on Fri Sep 5 23:22:26 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 5 21:51:14 2014. If only it was. (satire)You might think that the Secretary of State would have more pressing matters to be concerned about, such as the NATO summit and the threat of the terrorist Islamic caliphate (ISIS). |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 5 23:27:06 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?, posted by David Fairthorne on Fri Sep 5 23:22:26 2014. Those have already been dealt with. Check out the REAL news. |
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Posted by displaced angeleno on Fri Sep 5 23:39:17 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Sep 5 16:03:17 2014. When you're wrong, I'll point out that you're wrong, but when I'm wrong, I'll point out times when you've been wrong.A man's got to admit when other people are wrong. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Sep 5 23:48:03 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?, posted by David Fairthorne on Fri Sep 5 23:22:26 2014. If he was concerned about matters of state, he would. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Sep 6 01:06:05 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?, posted by David Fairthorne on Fri Sep 5 23:22:26 2014. Considering that 90% of his speech, as well as the appointment of Shaarik Zafar, is directly related to ISIL/ISIS, I would say he considers it a fairly pressing matter. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 01:13:02 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?, posted by 3-9 on Sat Sep 6 01:06:05 2014. And Putin's ceasefire in Ukraine is better than 90% of Poroshenko's original plan from back in June. Looks like with all the deals set in motion, Kerry can afford to kick back for a few days. He's a crappy golfer, so this will have to do. :) |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Sep 6 01:13:35 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by bingbong on Fri Sep 5 18:31:01 2014. IAWTP |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 01:13:47 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State … is this satire?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 01:13:02 2014. Iran and "say what? Nope" is next up. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 01:14:50 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by 3-9 on Sat Sep 6 01:13:35 2014. Desertification is heavily in progress over there, and major wars are caused when folks run out of water and resources. Strategically, anything that can ease that issue will prevent war, or at least hold it off for a while. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Sep 6 01:57:40 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Sep 5 20:41:11 2014. Again...you can't pick and chose when to use religion in govt.But we've been doing that since, well, the Declaration of Independence! The things that the left doesn't like are a) having the govt support a single religion above all others, b) using religion to justify a hateful, oppressive, or discriminatory policy. Kerry has done none of these. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sat Sep 6 02:03:20 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 01:14:50 2014. I've always considered some of the uglier places in Africa and Yemen to be a glimpse of what could happen to society in general if we were to run short on water and arable land. :-( |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 02:17:32 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by bingbong on Fri Sep 5 19:16:38 2014. How many fucking times are you going to use the expression, "The operative ..........." tonight? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 02:34:06 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by 3-9 on Sat Sep 6 02:03:20 2014. Desertification is already in progress right here. Another reason to be concerned, and hoping to find a way to minimize or better yet prevent it. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Sep 6 02:36:00 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 02:34:06 2014. Desertification? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Sep 6 02:59:46 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by AlM on Fri Sep 5 17:59:37 2014. Lol Breitbart!Hence my original point. Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Sep 6 03:00:53 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Sep 5 20:43:32 2014. Parts of the speech that Breitbart didn't want you to see.Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 6 07:39:25 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by 3-9 on Sat Sep 6 01:57:40 2014. ???? Uh no.....They are both using religion and the scripture. Kerry claims Genesis gives him a responsibility by God....and the nuts that quote man should not lie with Man or whatever religious quote to push an agenda are both doing the same thing. You can't claim you shouldn't be using scripture for one yet say its okay for the other. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 6 07:42:37 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by bingbong on Fri Sep 5 19:16:38 2014. Kerry and the left want legislation too to try and support theiragenda. Now they even admit the Book of Genesis also stating God first created the earth and then created man.... and a responsibility by God mandates them. Sick religious freaks. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Sep 6 07:44:36 2014, in response to Re: Your Secretary of State .. is this satire?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 6 02:34:06 2014. And a mandate by God.....who first created Earth and then created man......the Scripture and the book of Genesis says so after all. |
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