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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 27 17:14:52 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 17:08:18 2006. LMAO. You nailed it here, John. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 27 17:21:33 2006, in response to Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by aem7ac on Mon Feb 27 09:45:15 2006. You need to edit my positions. I'm pro-choice, pro-stem cell research, I'm for smoking in public, and my view on gay marriage cannot truly be labelled as "against". Except for legalizing drugs, I'm a social libertarian. Interesting that you didn't include some other controversial issues, like the war in Iraq, torture and the R44. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 27 17:26:47 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Peter Rosa on Mon Feb 27 10:00:01 2006. Here's my official rundown: Stem cell - pro Gun control - pro, with significant restriction Abortion choice - pro, though I support some limits Federal healthcare - anti, and it's NOT possible I could be convinced otherwise Port sale - anti Social Security reform - More pro than you Morning after - pro, but not OTC Gay marriage - anti, I support domestic partnerships Public smoking ban - anti Patriot Act - pro Creation in schools - anti Motorcycle helmets - pro (where's the cops when the OCC boys test ride their new choppers?) |
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Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 27 17:40:22 2006, in response to Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by Andrew Kirschner on Mon Feb 27 12:50:14 2006. Reform akin to the current administration's proposals are inevitable. Polls consistently show that the strongest support for these proposals comes from Gen-X'ers. The strongest opposition comes from the WWII and Baby Boomer generations. They're all gonna die eventually. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 27 17:46:16 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Peter Rosa on Mon Feb 27 13:09:24 2006. On the other hand, it is not at all difficult to imagine the Emirates succumbing to Taliban-style fundamentalism, most likely in Domino Effect fashion following the fall of Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is already ruled by Taliban-style fundamentalists. |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 17:51:35 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 27 17:26:47 2006. OCC probably is the biggest employer in Montgomery. Woe to the cop who hassles them. |
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Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance) |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 17:52:32 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 27 17:40:22 2006. Interesting truth. |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 17:53:01 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 27 17:46:16 2006. More interesting truth. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 27 17:56:09 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 17:51:35 2006. I don't think they have more than 20 employees. |
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Posted by JPC on Mon Feb 27 18:03:15 2006, in response to Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by aem7ac on Mon Feb 27 09:45:15 2006. Stem Cell Yes, absolutely. Cloning (human or animal), for therapeutic and for reproduction as well. I see no inherent problem with it (although problems could be raised by the development of said fetuses, this is better dealt with as a research/medical ethics issue than a legislative one - I don't want politicians dictating my own research, so I don't want them dictating any of my colleagues' research).Gun Control No. Gun control means you can hit your target. Gun education is key, and groups like the NRA should be commended for their efforts toward this end (e.g. Eddie Eagle). Automatic weapons, yes, those should be restricted (they have been since 1934), as should rocket launchers, hand grenades, nuclear bombs, and things of that sort - anything you'd see Arnold Schwarzenegger or Rambo running around with probably isn't a legitimate civilian device for self defense or food acquisition. As far as handguns/rifles/shotguns, any federal legislation is blatantly unconstitutional vis a vis the 2nd Amendment. At state and local level it's a little tricky. I have no problem with registration, as long as it's local and pretty disorganized (organized and efficient registration is the penultimate step to confiscation). Carry permits should be issued on a "shall issue" basis - that means you get one *unless* there is a specific reason not to (past suicide attempts, past criminal record or history of violent mental illness, etc. I have no problem with, and am in fact in favor of, requiring a gun safety class and passage of a practical firearms test for receipt of a carry permit.) Discretionary systems (as in NYC and most big cities) are rife with corruption and racist discrimination (I can cite examples) and it is imperative that every one of them be abolished. Abortion Choice Yes, with limitations, as we have discussed here. No late-term abortion on demand unless sufficient medical cause exists to necessitate termination. Federal Healthcare In general, no. I have no problem with the government paying for healthcare for the destitute, or with taking over payment in cases of catastrophic loss not covered by insurance (that almost certainly would be defaulted anyway), but the primary system of health care payment would ideally be private health savings accounts (HSAs) to cover routine costs, backed up by private insurance pools (pay a small amount now so that on the off chance you incur a large expense later it will be covered), then finally backed up by state and local governments (NOT federal). Port Sale What's the problem? So they're Arabs. Isn't the UAE one of the "good" countries? Soc. Sec. Reform Yes. The system should be shifted to private savings accounts similar to the system in Chile. I don't have a problem with *requiring* workers to pay in a given percentage, since when this system fails (i.e. people outlive their money, or catastrophe strikes, or the severely disabled/institutionalized), state and local governments would take over, and it is in the interest of the rest of the taxpayers that you pay your fair share into your retirement before living off of everyone else. Public assistance should be only for the destitute, and those who are in this situation because of circumstances beyond their control. Otherwise you are better served by your own money (even if it takes a little coaxing to get you to save your own money). Morning After Yes, absolutely. EC and available access to conventional contraception is one of the surest ways to reduce demand for late term elective abortion. Gay Marriage Yes, absolutely. It is an absolute disgrace that gays do not have the same marriage rights and protections as heterosexuals. It is one of the greatest faults of this era, akin to the Jim Crow laws of decades past. There are no second class citizens, only citizens. And they're not likely to have abortions either :) Public Smoking Ban N ot in general. On private property the decision should be up to the owner (or his/her designee). This includes private homes, apartment buldings/condos, bars, restaurants, etc. At most it could be required that a sign be posted at the entrance indicating whether smoking is allowed at a given establishment. On public property, in publically accessible areas, I have no problem with limiting smoking, although I'd like to see designated smoking areas are provided. Patriot Act - As far as the more provocative proposals, no, absolutely. They're right up there with the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798, the Sedition and Espionage Acts of 1917 and 1918, and a number of other despicable pieces of legislation passed throughout our history. The rest of it is mostly harmless window dressing (small technical changes to procedure, etc.), and nobody talks about that stuff. Creation in Schools Public schools, in science class, absolutely not. Creationism/ID/whatever you call it is not science. Let me say it again. Creationism/ID/whatever you call it is not science. And as such it does not belong in science class. In a comparative religion or philosophy class, maybe - if it can be integrated into a meaningful curriculum, sure. Private schools, being private, can do what they want, but if they're going to teach non-science in science class, then their accreditation should be pulled. Sure, they can still operate, but that diploma isn't going to mean squat. Motorcycle Helmet Req In principle, no. There should be no law to protect a head too willfully stupid to protect itself. But since these jackasses ride around and put a strain on EMS and police resources when they make organ donors of themselves... screw em, still no. Ride around all you want, dumbasses - I might need a liver someday. Yours will do quite nicely, and Mr. Darwin is on my side here. And I'll throw in one more: Drug Legalisation Yes. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 27 18:10:32 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by JPC on Mon Feb 27 18:03:15 2006. Port Sale What's the problem? So they're Arabs. Isn't the UAE one of the "good" countries? The only good country in that area of the world is Israel. |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 18:12:17 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 27 17:56:09 2006. closer to 30-35 skilled, 5 office slugs. |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 18:17:28 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 18:12:17 2006. And I forgot the store- maybe 8 more unskilled. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 27 18:23:35 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 18:17:28 2006. I had forgotten about the store. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 27 18:34:23 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 27 17:26:47 2006. As long as everyone else was jumping on this bandwagon....Here's mine: Stem cell - pro Gun control - pro Abortion choice - pro, though I feel underage girls should have their parents aware. I also don't like to see it used as a form of "birth control". Federal healthcare - pro Port sale - anti Social Security reform - pro (And probably more than usual, as I just had my taxes done). I think there are too many people taking advantage of the system. Yesterday I found myself completely annoyed as I was waiting in line at the deli to get my bacon/egg/cheese sandwich made, and this woman throws about 10 Little Debbie cakes, 5 bags of potato chips, and various other junk food on the counter, and pays with a "benefit card". It annoys me that my hard earned money goes to crap like that. And then another one came in, and was also paying with some sort of subsity card for similar trash items. And the attitude on these people's faces is "like it's coming to them". I work too hard for my money to see my tax dollars wasted on people that have no intention of working, and feel handouts are a given. They can't speak English often times, yet somehow they know how to get welfare relief. < /rant > Morning after - pro Gay marriage - anti I don't agree with it being marriage. I do feel there should be some allowable common law status however, perhaps for the sharing of health benefits, etc for people like this. Public smoking ban - anti - I find it absurd. If people want to smoke in designated areas, I have no problem with that. i think it's insane that they did away with smoking sections in restaurants and bars. At least in ones where they had seperate enclosed areas. Patriot Act - pro Creation in schools - anti School is no place for religious beliefs, at least not in public schools. Motorcycle helmets - don't care - if someone wants to kill themselves, that's their problem. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Feb 27 18:38:38 2006, in response to Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by aem7ac on Mon Feb 27 09:45:15 2006. As long as everyone else was jumping on this bandwagon....Here's mine: Stem cell - pro Gun control - pro Abortion choice - pro, though I feel underage girls should have their parents aware. I also don't like to see it used as a form of "birth control". Federal healthcare - pro Port sale - anti Social Security reform - pro (And probably more than usual, as I just had my taxes done). I think there are too many people taking advantage of the system. Yesterday I found myself completely annoyed as I was waiting in line at the deli to get my bacon/egg/cheese sandwich made, and this woman throws about 10 Little Debbie cakes, 5 bags of potato chips, and various other junk food on the counter, and pays with a "benefit card". It annoys me that my hard earned money goes to crap like that. And then another one came in, and was also paying with some sort of subsity card for similar trash items. And the attitude on these people's faces is "like it's coming to them". I work too hard for my money to see my tax dollars wasted on people that have no intention of working, and feel handouts are a given. They can't speak English often times, yet somehow they know how to get welfare relief. < /rant > Morning after - pro Gay marriage - anti I don't agree with it being marriage. I do feel there should be some allowable common law status however, perhaps for the sharing of health benefits, etc for people like this. Public smoking ban - anti - I find it absurd. If people want to smoke in designated areas, I have no problem with that. i think it's insane that they did away with smoking sections in restaurants and bars. At least in ones where they had seperate enclosed areas. Patriot Act - pro Creation in schools - anti School is no place for religious beliefs, at least not in public schools. Motorcycle helmets - don't care - if someone wants to kill themselves, that's their problem. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Mon Feb 27 19:10:05 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 27 17:26:47 2006. Morning after - pro, but not OTCThe thing with the morning after pill is that unless it's available without prescription (OTC), the whole point behind it might be lost. It has to be taken with about 72 hours of the Dirty Deed in order to be effective. It can be very difficult for a woman to get a doctor's appointment and a prescription in that limited time frame, especially on a weekend (when the need for the pill probably is most likely to arise). My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 19:12:46 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Peter Rosa on Mon Feb 27 19:10:05 2006. OTC is needed to break the Church's grip on our country. |
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Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance) |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 19:31:35 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 27 17:40:22 2006. The fact is. I am 47 years old and have been told that I will not get hired for the Job that I have been training for because of my age and the fact that I was never in the military. (veteran's set asides) so you and the rest of the nazis can go to hell. I will do the best I can and have busted my ass all of my life so the nazis can take it away and give it to some silver spoon cumstain piece of shit woho never filled a shovel in his life. Well, you know what, when the troops' indoctrination wears off, and they see what a mess you nazis have made of this FORMERLY great country, they will come around. bu$h's port deal will GO THROUGH, frist has ordered the nazi drones to rubber stamp it. Yeah, you asshole pieces of shit, fuck me totally. Hopefully, someday, another country will rise but this one's fucked for good. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Mon Feb 27 19:35:03 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 10:09:25 2006. Here go mine:Stem cell - pro Gun control - anti for small handguns and hunting rifles / pro for assault weapons Abortion choice - pro Federal healthcare - used to be anti - now undecided. Port sale - undecided Social Security reform - Social security taxes should be DEDUCTIBLE from your federal income tax - aside from that leave as is. Morning after - pro Gay marriage - only if people into threesomes can marry multiple spouses. All sexual fetishes and preferences should have equal rights! Public smoking ban - anti Patriot Act - ANTI Creation in schools - anti Motorcycle helmets - anti Seatbelt and other Nanny state laws - ANTI!!!! Legalized marijuana - pro Reduce drinking age to 18 - pro Casino gambling in the Rockaways - Texas hold em here I come - ALL IN!! |
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Posted by Line 13 on Mon Feb 27 19:56:07 2006, in response to Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by aem7ac on Mon Feb 27 09:45:15 2006. Stem cell - proGun control - pro Abortion choice - pro Federal healthcare - anti Port sale - anti Social Security reform - undecided Morning after - pro Gay marriage - anti Public smoking ban - don't care Patriot Act - pro (some sections only) Creation in schools - anti Motorcycle helmets - don't care |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Feb 27 20:07:08 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 17:04:46 2006. Politics make strange bedfellows, doesn't it? :) |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 20:09:15 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Feb 27 20:07:08 2006. Charles likes to pull my chain but he is a decent sort actually. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Feb 27 20:10:59 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 19:31:35 2006. I'm 26 years old or something. I'm not sure if America's fucked just yet, but I DO think Agism is a problem and a big problem. I'm pretty sure that older folks have skills and knowledge just as younger folks do, and I think some of the people out there oughta think about hiring them. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Feb 27 20:13:34 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by r7 torresdale express on Mon Feb 27 16:27:48 2006. Fiat Homo, Fiat Lux, Fiat Voluntuus Tua, and Walter Miller's "A Canticle for Liebowitz" came outa Miller's arse. Or maybe not. |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 20:16:07 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Feb 27 20:10:59 2006. It's just gonna get worse from here on out. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Feb 27 20:21:01 2006, in response to The below item has nothing to do with anything, posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Feb 27 20:13:34 2006. Someone was making a nonsense response to my nonsense statement, so I said the first thing that popped in my head: the chapters to A Canticle for Leibowitz. "Nucular" refers to the subject matter of the book: civilization gets ruined in a nucular war, and then grows back up from a base or two in Texas or Arkansaw or something (yikes!), and goes on to ruin itself again in another nucular war. The central character is essentially the Catholic adherent order of the Blessed (later Saint) Leibowitz and its participants, although the Wandering Jew shows up as a character at various points. There was a semi-sequel entitled Leibowitz and the Wild Horse Woman. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Feb 27 20:22:12 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 20:16:07 2006. (shrugs) that's what they were saying in the 1970s. |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 20:23:49 2006, in response to The below item has nothing to do with anything, posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Feb 27 20:13:34 2006. Fiat Spyder, Fiat Barchetta, Fiat Topolino, Fiat Siecento. |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 20:26:11 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Feb 27 20:22:12 2006. You were'nt even a sperm then, I lived through those times, This is worse. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Feb 27 20:27:27 2006, in response to Re: The below item has nothing to do with anything, posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 20:23:49 2006. Buick Lesabre, Buick Roadmaster, Buick Century! |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Feb 27 20:27:54 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 20:26:11 2006. If you say so |
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Posted by JPC on Mon Feb 27 21:29:58 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 27 18:10:32 2006. Point well taken. What I meant was that the UAE was cooperating in the war on terror. It is, after all, one of the most progressive Arab nations. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 27 21:34:12 2006, in response to Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by aem7ac on Mon Feb 27 09:45:15 2006. Stem Cell........ForGun Control.......Against Abortion Choice.......For Health Care.......Need More Info Port Sale.......Need more Info. Social Sec. Reform.......For Gay Marriage.......Against Smoking Ban.......For Patriot Act.......For Creation in Schools.......For Motorcycle Helmets.......For Salaam Allah.......Against |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 21:42:18 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 27 21:34:12 2006. That last one causes HOWLING in me. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 27 21:47:23 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Brooklyn IND on Mon Feb 27 13:41:28 2006. Translated: "I have no justification for my answer." |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Feb 27 21:47:28 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Charles G on Mon Feb 27 12:24:14 2006. Social Security "reform" - For. I don't see how anyone but an ostrich could be against some type of reform (doesn't mean you have to agree with the administrations proposal, but the numbers don't lie...)I may disagree with the Bush Administration's Social Security "reform" scheme, but had it been in place, my family probably would have benefited from it. Last May, my aunt passed away with no spouse or children. Currently, all of her social security money would remain in the hands of the federal government. Under the Bush Administration's plan, whatever she contributed would be returned to the executor of her estate to disperse as fit in her will. Admittedly, yes, it sounds like a good idea from the, but the staggering costs of conversion and government indebtness make it much less appealing. La Grande Anse |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 27 21:48:23 2006, in response to Re: SubCHAT politics: at a glance, posted by American Pig on Mon Feb 27 16:34:06 2006. Several others outdo me in that area. I'm just mildly pedantic. |
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Posted by Brooklyn IND on Mon Feb 27 21:50:37 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 27 21:47:23 2006. Nope. Incorrect as usual, troll. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Feb 27 21:50:45 2006, in response to Re: Subchat politics: at a glance, posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Feb 27 11:33:18 2006. Didn't understand the graph but here's how I weigh in on the issue's:Stem Cell-For Gun Control-No-(Except high power/caliber people killing weapons.) Abortion-For Federal Health-No Port Sale-Yes Social Security Reform-Yes Morning After-Yes Gay Marriage-Yes Public Smoking-Against Patriot Act-Against Creation in School-Against Motorcycle Helmets-Against |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Mon Feb 27 21:51:42 2006, in response to Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by aem7ac on Mon Feb 27 09:45:15 2006. Hehe....under the rader again. Like a master politician here. :) |
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Posted by Brooklyn IND on Mon Feb 27 21:55:22 2006, in response to Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by aem7ac on Mon Feb 27 09:45:15 2006. Chris R16: AgainstAEM7AC (Alex Lu): Against Joe Saitta: Against Olog-Hai: Against Mitch45 (Mitchell Pak): Against Jersey Mike (Mike Brotzman): Against RoninBayside (Ron Aryel): Sometimes Against DaDouce Man (Russell Doucette): Tired of taking pity Subway-Buff (Peggy Darlington): Against |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Feb 27 21:56:24 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 21:42:18 2006. I calls em as i sees em !!! |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Feb 27 22:15:01 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance (UPDATE), posted by Brooklyn IND on Mon Feb 27 21:55:22 2006. Against what? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 27 22:15:32 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance (UPDATE), posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Feb 27 22:15:01 2006. Exactly, against what? |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Feb 27 22:19:19 2006, in response to Subtalk politics: at a glance, posted by aem7ac on Mon Feb 27 09:45:15 2006. Stem Cell: We should be researching this to determine if there's any use for them.Gun Control: Useless fact...my paternal grandfather was a gun owner back in Haiti. Obviously, there's no need for cop killer bullets and the like, but we obviously need minimum federal standards for gun purchasing. But, frankly, I am against any ban on guns. As for the Second Amendment nuts, the military has Apaches, F-16s, et alia. Your pissant weapons will do nothing. Abortion Choice: Pro-choice, no parental notification, and abortions paid for by medicaid. Federal Healthcare: This is a dicey proposition. Obviously, health care costs are spiraling out of control here in the States. Canadian style single-payer, single-tier system works for basic care and medium level services, but not expensive needs. One option would be to emulate the French system which as been ranked by the WHO as one of the best in the world. Essentially, everybody is covered, but private insurance and hospitals are availible to those who want to pay for it. Shortages aren't common (except in rural areas), and the people seem to be rather content. It's paid for with taxes taken from withholding (like Medicaid/care) and co-pays that are taken at each visit. Admittedly, I'd like to see what becomes of Mitt Romney's proposal to force uninsured citizens of Massachusetts to purchase health insurance. Port Sale: I'll duck this one. Let's just say I'm weary of a State-owned company doing this. Soc. Sec. Reform: See here:. Morning After: It should be availible OTC. Gay Marriage: Legalize it. Marriage is a state contract. If heterosexuals are stupid enough to get married, why shouldn't gay people? Public Smoking Ban: I really couldn't be bothered. I don't smoke, but I hang around smokers. Patriot Act: Again another dicey one. I think that we need a means of looking for terrorists, but it should be as close to proper legal guidelines as possible. To bend the Constitution to round up people on serious charges damages the credibility of the State, and makes us no better than terrorists. Creation in Schools: It doesn't belong in a science class no matter what the peasants think. Motorcycle Helmet Req: Go ahead and not use your helmets. Just make sure that your family members don't sue. La Grande Anse |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Feb 27 22:30:47 2006, in response to Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance (UPDATE), posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 27 22:15:32 2006. Judging from some other posts, against certain Subchatters.For the record, as for me: Terp: okay BIE: Okay, except when he's in a bad mood, in which case, occasionally against (depends if he's directly targeting me) Salaam Allah: kinda neutral, unless when he's feuding with Train Dude and SubwaySURF SubwaySURF and TD: same thing - this time, the feud would be with Salaamallah Unca Selkirk:for Olog: okay Rail Blue: for Fytton: for WMATAGMOAGH: for aem7ac: okay, unless he's pissing me off, in which case, against AMoriera: okay RoninBayside: okay (used to be "for", but downgraded to "okay", because he had some issues concerning knowledge of the NYC transit system) Larry: for |
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Posted by Brooklyn IND on Mon Feb 27 22:31:53 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by BIE on Mon Feb 27 19:31:35 2006. This wouldn't be a problem if you hadn't lost your first job. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 27 22:34:38 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by Brooklyn IND on Mon Feb 27 22:31:53 2006. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Feb 27 22:35:15 2006, in response to Re: Social Security Reform (Re: Subtalk politics: at a glance), posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Feb 27 20:27:54 2006. He's right. Listen instead of talking. |
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