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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 7 13:27:10 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Dec 7 13:16:27 2008. You know very well what I meant... |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Dec 7 13:33:13 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 7 13:27:10 2008. That's not what you said. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 7 15:13:59 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Dec 7 12:40:16 2008. Irrelevant. The last few posts in this subthread are not talking about in-service buses. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 7 15:15:45 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Dec 7 12:59:05 2008. No, I get pwn3d the same way. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 7 15:17:31 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 7 13:27:10 2008. Yes, we all do. Don't mind SUBWAYSURF. He's just trolling. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by DaRidgewoodBusbuff on Sun Dec 7 16:07:06 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by The TransitMan on Sun Dec 7 04:00:08 2008. Yes, I saw 9523 with the B46 sign going into Fresh Pond. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Dec 7 18:18:44 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 7 15:13:59 2008. And buses not in service MUST display that sign.Remember the bus DOES NOT belong to the operator but is assigned to him, thus HE MUST obey all directives and regulations in regards to operation of the bus! |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Dec 7 18:34:56 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Dec 7 18:18:44 2008. exactly |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Dec 7 18:37:32 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 7 15:17:31 2008. Ahhh, your catch all accusation for anyone that has your numbe abd dares to disagree with you. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Dec 7 18:37:57 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Dec 7 18:18:44 2008. What about the Next bus plaese sign? I see a lot of OOS buses use that sign, and when the bus is so crowded to the point that no more people can't fit inside. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Dec 7 18:38:06 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 7 15:17:31 2008. Ahhh, your catch all accusation for anyone that has your number and dares disagree with you. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 7 19:07:03 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Dec 7 18:18:44 2008. I understand what you are saying the rules are. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Dec 7 19:38:10 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Dec 7 18:37:57 2008. When a bus is too crowded the operator must put up the "Next bus please" sign via the farebox. This will register that the bus is full and will assist planning/schedules in looking into the problem.Being the tradegy occurred I understand what the operators are doing and I won't write an operator for doing it but I will verbally warn the operator. Under any other cirsumstances I would warn an operator several times before writing them up, however a bus in service with a not in service sign would get the operator an immediate violation no warning. Doing route compliance Friday night I did write up an operator for the B46 sign but only because he was pulling in off route as well. I did catch another operator but he was a TA operator and he looked like a nice young guy. He apologized and I gave him a verbal. But he also had a B46 sign up and was off route pulling in. In a mega depot like MTV with 600+ operators, 275 buses, 73 QC buses you have to run the depot by the book or will quickly lose control and the operators will not respect you. Then the boss will have a problem with me! |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Dec 7 20:19:03 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Dec 7 19:38:10 2008. Nice post. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by TheHat on Sun Dec 7 21:12:10 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Dec 6 23:35:48 2008. Oh very good. This is my bus. There are many like it, but this one is mine. Without it I am useless, my bus is useless without me. Me and my bus act as one :) |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by TheHat on Sun Dec 7 21:30:36 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Dec 7 13:33:13 2008. Stop splittin' hairs, I know what he meant. Stop trollin' geez. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by TheHat on Sun Dec 7 21:35:25 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by dontwalkhand on Fri Dec 5 11:44:33 2008. Well the MTA could care, the GS at my depot is trying to stop us from sending a bus to the funeral. How about that for a tribute.The PD has a black band (mourning band) that goes around the shield. The MTA doesn't even consider that. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Dec 7 22:02:50 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by TheHat on Sun Dec 7 21:30:36 2008. Excellent post. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by FutureKBArticOP on Mon Dec 8 01:27:50 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Dec 6 05:09:58 2008. You're a dick. If you wrote me up and I had a because I had a B46 Limited Sign up after an incident like this I would tell you about you about yourself and then let everyone at the depot know that your dumbass wrote me up for, trying to pay respect to someone who died in the line of duty. What if I don't have the seniority to make the viewing or funeral? You're a jerk. My uncle's been at Manhattanville for 10-12 years I wonder how he deals with someone like you. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Dec 8 01:37:34 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by FutureKBArticOP on Mon Dec 8 01:27:50 2008. What does displaying the route a man died on have to do with his memory?Why not hang the knife he got stabbed with around your neck too! And if I caught you doing something wrong I'd write your ass up too. I bet if you was a dispatcher some operator somewhere would think your were a dick also. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by FutureKBArticOP on Mon Dec 8 01:51:39 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Dec 8 01:37:34 2008. I'm only 22 years old but I also hold a supervisory position where I work. I get everything done effectively without being a dick. Displaying the route he was operating on is the only thing a b/o can really do while they are working you heartless idiot. I saw a B8 signed as B46 Limited today. While I was at work several ulmer Park MCI's were signed B46 Limited. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by JAzumah on Mon Dec 8 02:02:56 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by FutureKBArticOP on Mon Dec 8 01:51:39 2008. I don't think you understand. Let me put forward a scenario for you.Operator is deadheading on Route Q46. QV driver is paying his respects to Mr. Thomas by displaying a B46 sign. Old lady waiting for a bus sees a B46 blow by her. She calls customer information and reports that bus 64xx blew by her in service on Union Turnpike. Driver is yanked into office. 1) If the driver says that he was "Not In Service", the report will state that 46 was on the sign and he'll be written up for a wrong sign or flagging a passenger. 2) If the driver says that he had a "B46 sign" up, he'll be written up for a wrong sign. 3) If the driver plays dumb, a spotter will be out there to catch him. If they catch him with a "B46 sign" on the street, he could get two writeups and time to think about it. All that could happen over a sign tribute. I wish I was being farfetched, but our population makes a habit of looking at the route number only. If a M15 said that it was going to Hell, it would have a standing load going there. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Dec 8 02:03:44 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by FutureKBArticOP on Mon Dec 8 01:51:39 2008. Wait a minute!?You mean you don't work for NYC transit!!?? How dare you speak to me about such matters you mere mortal! You have offended GOD! Better to be a dick than have one up my ass! |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by FutureKBArticOP on Mon Dec 8 02:46:18 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by JAzumah on Mon Dec 8 02:02:56 2008. I understand you. Never at any point did I not understand, It's just that right now that's definetly not the focal point. I have had buses with signs other than what they were supposed to be drive past me, I then saw....nobody was on the bus and I waited for the next one, |
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Posted by FutureKBArticOP on Mon Dec 8 02:49:49 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Dec 8 02:03:44 2008. Mortal? You're beneath me bitch and lets watch how we use the word god. Yeah but plain and simple you're a heartless lowlife that gets a kick out of getting B/O's in trouble. Why don't go back on the street and worry about that M4 that runs two to three buses at a time since you're the super dispatcher aka god. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Dec 8 02:58:52 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by FutureKBArticOP on Mon Dec 8 02:49:49 2008. CRIPPLE FIGHT!!! |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Dec 8 06:51:05 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by FutureKBArticOP on Mon Dec 8 01:51:39 2008. I saw a B8 signed as B46 Limited todayIn service? If so that's going too far, especially since it intersects with the B46. |
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Article and photo from wake (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 8 10:09:42 2008, in response to Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Railman718 on Mon Dec 1 13:30:00 2008. MTA employees walk to Andrew Torregrossa & Sons funeral home for the wake of Edwin Thomas who was fatally stabbed while driving a bus. Bus drivers mourn slain colleague BY ERICA PPEARSON AND BILL HUTCHINSON DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS Monday, December 8th 2008, 12:49 AM Fevelo for News City bus drivers by the thousands braved the blustery chill of winter Sunday night to mourn a hardworking colleague stabbed to death by a fare-beater on his Brooklyn route. A somber line that included Mayor Bloomberg stretched from Edwin Thomas' coffin out the front door of the Andrew Torregrossa & Sonsfuneral home in Brooklyn. Fellow drivers at the wake expressed grief and anger at the death of Thomas, and a few revealed their own fears of meeting a similar fate. "It was an unfortunate tragedy that could have happened to any one of us in this line," said driver Luis Santiago, 41, who was waiting to get into the packed chapel to pay his respects to Thomas' family. Thomas, a 46-year-old father of two teenagers, was slain last Monday when he got into a beef with 20-year-old Horace Moore, who had sneaked aboard the B46 bus in Bedford-Stuyvesant without paying. Cops said Moore stabbed Thomas in the chest and stomach when the driver denied his request for a free $2 transfer. Moore, a paroled ex-con recently released from a prison stint for attempted murder, was captured when he was turned in by a man who regularly buys marijuana from him, police said. "It's a shame that it takes something like this to show the dangers of our job," said driver Ty Johnson, 42, wearing an armband in memory of Thomas. A funeral will be held at 11 a.m. Monday at the Sacred Heart Church in Cambria Heights, Queens. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Dec 8 10:21:02 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by FutureKBArticOP on Mon Dec 8 02:49:49 2008. I worked the road for 5 years before picking inside. Its where I got my nickname "The Bulldog" because I was a very agressive road man and tried many things other dispatchers would have been scared to try.And let me tell you something else. Once I write a violation and turn it in to my boss its our of my hands. I'm not one who begs the boss to burn the operator and in fact I never have asked a boss what he did with my violation. A violation is just that. A report to the boss that an operator violated a operational rule, nothing else. When an operator comes back to me and tells me he got off easy thats fine with me, because did my job and the operator gets in no serious trouble. On the same hand if an operator gets a serious penalty I don't like it but the operator violated the rules, not me. If I were to violate the rules my manager would have no problem writing me up. MTA is a cold hearted business but as a buff in the heart I love my job. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Dec 8 10:23:26 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Dec 8 06:51:05 2008. Thats why its a serious issue. I understand the majority of operators have good intentions with what they are doing. However, you will a few bad apples who will use this tradegy as an excuse to bend the rules. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Dec 8 11:01:14 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by FutureKBArticOP on Mon Dec 8 02:46:18 2008. You are not typical. The sign could say in very large letters, in every possible language, that is is going to (Destination A). STILL the first person in line on a rainy day at a stop with no shelter will ask if the bus is going to (Destination A) |
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Posted by FutureKBArticOP on Mon Dec 8 13:28:31 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Dec 8 06:51:05 2008. Yes it was on Foster Ave. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Mon Dec 8 13:41:08 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Dec 6 05:09:58 2008. You all need P/R signs... |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Mon Dec 8 13:44:46 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Dec 6 05:09:58 2008. Or at least P/R signs where operators can choose to cheer for the team and whatnot. But at least you are primarily giving verbal warnings...It's tough to keep things in check without coming across as unnecessarily overbearing/heartless. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Dec 8 14:10:00 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by The Flxible Neofan on Mon Dec 8 13:41:08 2008. Those are annoying for other reasons, but having one for situations like this wouldn't hurt. It might be a good compromise between allowing the drivers to salute the fallen and also showing proper signage. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Dec 8 15:34:36 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Dec 8 10:21:02 2008. Damn, you sound like you're a great and well experienced employee. |
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Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed) |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Mon Dec 8 17:29:13 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Dec 8 15:34:36 2008. He's actually one of the better ones. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Dec 8 19:42:16 2008, in response to Re: Destination sign tributes (Was: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed), posted by Bingham C50 on Mon Dec 8 17:29:13 2008. a |
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