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Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Dec 1 13:30:00 2008 Another Reason why i feel for some Bus Operators and what they go through or went through...I have heard the Stories from NETO as well as my brother who is a Bus Operator. Link Here |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Mon Dec 1 14:15:02 2008, in response to Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Railman718 on Mon Dec 1 13:30:00 2008. I just got the text from a coworker whos friend was on the bus when it happened. I just went to my old neighborhood(Utica Ave) and observing the B46 buses going up and down Utica Ave. According to the text, the B/O died, but the newslink says otherwise. Im glad I was called for C/R before B/O(passed both with flying colors).My thoughts and prayers with the B/O and his family..... |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Mon Dec 1 14:18:33 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Mon Dec 1 14:15:02 2008. http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/89842/bus-driver-stabbed-in-brooklyn/Default.aspxI guess the text was right. Sad. I know that stop and area since I used to transfer from the B46 to the B52 to go to relative's house in Bushwick...... |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Dec 1 14:28:53 2008, in response to Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Railman718 on Mon Dec 1 13:30:00 2008. On the WNBC Channel 4 web site, they are reporting the driver is in very critical conditon. To the right of the story is a captioned picture of people getting onto an M15 bus on Dec. 23, 2005, the first day of regular service after the strike. Pretty tasteless at a time when one of my union brothers is fighting for his life. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Dec 1 14:38:15 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Dec 1 14:28:53 2008. At this time, NY1 reports the bus operator has died, but channels 2/4/7 are reporting he is in very critical condition. |
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Posted by dontwalkhand on Mon Dec 1 14:52:53 2008, in response to Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Railman718 on Mon Dec 1 13:30:00 2008. All this over a Transfer slip? What has this society come to? |
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Posted by mci guy on Mon Dec 1 15:12:08 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by dontwalkhand on Mon Dec 1 14:52:53 2008. it happened before in 1981. all operators should issue transfer. harvey shild was killed over this. you do not know what these individuals are capable of. ta says do not argue about fare. |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Mon Dec 1 15:53:47 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Mon Dec 1 14:18:33 2008. That is why I stopped question anything anyone gave me. I stopped after a B/O I know got stabbed in the hand with a needle in the hand. He had to get tested every 3 mouths for over 4 years to find out if he got HIV/AIDS. After that you could ride my bus no question asked. You have no money fine, transfer no good keep it moving. I wanted to get though my day without getting into trouble or a fight with anyone. I gave them no reason to harm me in any way. |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Mon Dec 1 15:57:57 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by mci guy on Mon Dec 1 15:12:08 2008. But then they will wright you up if you get cought not question a fare. It Happened to me once or twice after what happen that I said in my other post. I told them my life is more importent then there money. You don't want me fight but questioning can be taken as the start of a fight to me. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 1 16:01:27 2008, in response to Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Railman718 on Mon Dec 1 13:30:00 2008. That's terrible. My condolences to his family, friends, and coworkers. |
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Posted by R 36 ML 9542 on Mon Dec 1 16:24:59 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Dec 1 16:01:27 2008. What a damn shame Jeez this is just unaccetable. |
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Posted by Pelham R62A on Mon Dec 1 16:38:37 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Dec 1 14:38:15 2008. NY Daily News is just reporting that he has died. |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Mon Dec 1 17:19:37 2008, in response to Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Railman718 on Mon Dec 1 13:30:00 2008. Terrible news ... thoughts and prayers to the family and friends as they deal with this senseless tragedy. |
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Posted by catfish 44 on Mon Dec 1 17:28:25 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by RailBus63 on Mon Dec 1 17:19:37 2008. Awful. The operator will be in my thoughts and prayers along with the family. |
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Posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Mon Dec 1 18:09:44 2008, in response to Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Railman718 on Mon Dec 1 13:30:00 2008. I hope that the sick b*****d that did this is found and made to account for what he did. My thoughts and prayers for the B/O's family and friends - and this couldn't have been a worse time of the year for this to happen. |
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Posted by DaRidgewoodBusbuff on Mon Dec 1 18:43:50 2008, in response to Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Railman718 on Mon Dec 1 13:30:00 2008. That's awful, I hope they catch the asshole who did this. B/O's don't deserve such abuse a this. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Dec 1 18:45:02 2008, in response to Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Railman718 on Mon Dec 1 13:30:00 2008. Condolences to the family of the bus operator. I really wonder if bus operator shields (as is often in place on buses in parts of the United Kingdom) would be worth it for the safety of both drivers and their customers. |
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Posted by catfish 44 on Mon Dec 1 19:03:39 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by catfish 44 on Mon Dec 1 17:28:25 2008. What happened to the man or woman operating that bus has just really sunk into my mind. I hope that motherless fuck is strung up. This is outrageous. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Mon Dec 1 19:25:33 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by dontwalkhand on Mon Dec 1 14:52:53 2008. Exactly. Years ago, if you were a nickel short the operator would tell you and ask for the difference. Now apparently they are afraid to say anything even if you don't pay at all. What a shame! |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Mon Dec 1 19:29:57 2008, in response to Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Railman718 on Mon Dec 1 13:30:00 2008. You know what, I could really say what I truly feel right now but I think at this time...we ALL (bus fans, bus operators and other transit friends on this site) need to come together for a prayer. Please bow your heads (or just read):Friends, Today we celebrate the life of this bus operator. None of us (as far as I know) know him but we will certainly remember him as a bus operator who was dedicated to his job. Who stood up and not give up a transfer to someone who thought could "Beat The System". I salute the late bus operator. He's a hero in my book! I would like to extend my heart-felt condolescenes to the family, friends and the fellow bus operators, supervisors, mechanics, etc. at the Flatbush Bus Depot. Who now have to come to work knowing that one of their own...a bus operator...a fellow co-worker...and most importantly...a friend will no longer be there. However, he will ALWAYS be with you all. He'll just be watching you all from above. Amen. I'm sorry if this prayer was offensive to some of you but I just had to do that. My prayers are with the family at this time. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Dec 1 19:43:28 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by The TransitMan on Mon Dec 1 19:29:57 2008. Amen to that. |
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Posted by Massbusmark on Mon Dec 1 19:50:51 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by The TransitMan on Mon Dec 1 19:29:57 2008. The TransitMan: Well said!!My thoughts and prayers are with the family, friends and co-workers of the deceased driver. I hope the NYPD finds and brings the person who committed this senseless act to justice swiftly. Mark |
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Posted by mci guy on Mon Dec 1 20:04:39 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Massbusmark on Mon Dec 1 19:50:51 2008. indeed very well said. unfortunately this is the second bus operator lost to violence of thugs. as i said harvey shild was killed in 1981 by gunfire for the exact same reason. the thug rhat killed him is likely out of jail now. he was also a flatbush operator. |
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Posted by Ken S. on Mon Dec 1 20:05:54 2008, in response to Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Railman718 on Mon Dec 1 13:30:00 2008. Assaults on transit employees should be considered acts of terrorism. Maybe that will make these a**holes think about it more then the current penalties.May this scumbag piece of trash get everything he deserves from Bubba and Tiny in jail. Did this B/O have a family? |
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Posted by Ken S. on Mon Dec 1 20:07:44 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by mci guy on Mon Dec 1 20:04:39 2008. Provided that jerk wasn't given life without parole of course because the trial was given to a "hanging judge". |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Dec 1 20:12:05 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by mci guy on Mon Dec 1 20:04:39 2008. There was also one killed in 1983, if the linked article is correct. I also remember someone saying a while back that there is a picture of another driver, possibly an Ulmer Park driver, was also killed in the 1980s as the result of a customer assault. I wonder if that was the 1983 case.I also know of another bus operator slashing on the B6 in the mid-1990s. |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Mon Dec 1 20:16:42 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by The TransitMan on Mon Dec 1 19:29:57 2008. No, not at all. I for one thank you very much for doing this.Sincere and heartfelt. |
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Posted by Bingham C50 on Mon Dec 1 20:18:50 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Dec 1 18:45:02 2008. Yes...they would help...a great deal. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Dec 1 20:24:05 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Dec 1 18:45:02 2008. I thought it was discussed a number of years ago, but nothing came out of it. But consider the size of the small box the operator would be confined to. How well would ventilation be in there? Let's say they do get put into "a box". Hope the operator isn't claustropobic. |
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Posted by Ken S. on Mon Dec 1 20:24:54 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Mon Dec 1 20:24:05 2008. Doesn't GLI do that though? |
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Posted by caine515 on Mon Dec 1 20:43:34 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Dec 1 18:45:02 2008. condolances as well. Anyone aware the history of the bus involved? It was shown on CBS news at 8pm. #9666. Didn't this bus have a history on Nostrand Avenue recently? But i always thought it was #5103 involved in this incident.My girlfriend used to live about 5 minutes away from where this occured. We now live near the 15/43/47/46/57 connection. I ride the B46 on occasion. |
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Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed by Farebeater |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Dec 2 00:11:31 2008, in response to Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Railman718 on Mon Dec 1 13:30:00 2008. Link to Daily News |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Tue Dec 2 00:35:23 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Dec 1 20:12:05 2008. There was an incident a few years ago at the end of the B3 in Bergen Beach around E 71st St. Is anybody familiar with that? The driver was slashed but luckly not killed. |
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Posted by The TransitMan on Tue Dec 2 00:45:34 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Bingham C50 on Mon Dec 1 20:16:42 2008. Thank you all for those comments BUT I did what I thought was a good thing to do.Which leads me to this, to "Bingham C50" (who I have met on MANY occasions...especially at the Bus Roadeo with his camera in hand) and other Bus Operators on this site. I have had the PLEASURE to make some very good friends with these B/Os online (on this site and elsewhere) and in person. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE continue to take care of yourselves. I don't want to see ANY OF YOU in the news...unless if its GOOD news. My prayers are with you all while you're driving...ALWAYS! |
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Posted by keithsy on Tue Dec 2 00:45:36 2008, in response to Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Railman718 on Mon Dec 1 13:30:00 2008. I've waited for this opportunity. I am saddened for the loss of this young man and that his family will now have a sad holiday season and the same goes for his co-workers. Is this what you call "customer service?" Do you call the killer of this hard working soul, "a customer? I call him a two-bit, low-life murdering scum. To hell with the fucking courtesy, the good mornings, the have a nice day and the Dr. Diekmann's Blue Book of Customer Commuication. These buses and trains carry the filthiest low-down scum of the earth who are worth the basics of human dignity. Christmas is coming. I have a question for you MTA drivers only.Do you expect to receive candy, money, liquor, smokes, etc. from you so-called "customers?" Maybe if you worked for the former private carriers, but not for TA/MABSTOA. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Dec 2 00:46:19 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by The TransitMan on Mon Dec 1 19:29:57 2008. Another human Life lost ..Over nonsense.. *Shakes Head*.... God be with you Brother.. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Dec 2 00:47:22 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Ken S. on Mon Dec 1 20:24:54 2008. GLI has an operator shield that works differently, however. It is designed so that if it is forced open, the driver is still protected. But it won't work in a frequent pickup/dropoff application. |
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Posted by keithsy on Tue Dec 2 00:53:58 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by The TransitMan on Mon Dec 1 19:29:57 2008. TO: The TransitManPrayer is not offensive. We need it these days. Too bad, if others do not like it. This is a Christian nation and God-fucking damn ir, tell those PC petticoats in the entire MTA the same. May he rest in peace and rise in glory. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 2 00:58:34 2008, in response to Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Railman718 on Mon Dec 1 13:30:00 2008. So..that's what all that craziness was about...Good Lord...I'm so sorry to hear this... |
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Posted by keithsy on Tue Dec 2 00:59:09 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Ken S. on Mon Dec 1 20:24:54 2008. Yes and it looks ridiculous. I wouold nat take the job either at GLI or MTA. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 2 01:00:17 2008, in response to Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Railman718 on Mon Dec 1 13:30:00 2008. So..that's what all that craziness was about...Good Lord...I'm so sorry to hear this...I hope they hang the yellow dog of a cowardly bastard. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 2 01:02:18 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Dec 2 00:47:22 2008. It did its job well enough for me when I had a "crazy person problem" on one of my runs... |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Dec 2 01:03:58 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 2 01:02:18 2008. I'm actually a little surprised that it doesn't become standard fare for non-transit applications (i.e., I would like to see driver shields on all common carrier buses that aren't used for local service). |
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Posted by rtype3995 on Tue Dec 2 01:04:49 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by keithsy on Tue Dec 2 00:45:36 2008. Quote" I've waited for this opportunity. I am saddened for the loss of this young man and that his family will now have a sad holiday season and the same goes for his co-workers. Is this what you call "customer service?" Do you call the killer of this hard working soul, "a customer? I call him a two-bit, low-life murdering scum. To hell with the fucking courtesy, the good mornings, the have a nice day and the Dr. Diekmann's Blue Book of Customer Commuication. These buses and trains carry the filthiest low-down scum of the earth who are worth the basics of human dignity."QuotePreach on brotha.....I don't even think some of them are worth the basics of human dignity.... |
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Posted by keithsy on Tue Dec 2 01:10:00 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by rtype3995 on Tue Dec 2 01:04:49 2008. Tell me Dr. Diekmann, like I asked you when Mr. Kaufamn the agent was torched at Kingston-Throop, "would you call them custimers?" DROP DEAD! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Dec 2 01:13:01 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by The TransitMan on Mon Dec 1 19:29:57 2008. Thank for that...sometimes we forget what really matters...what keeps us going..keeps us grounded.. |
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Posted by DHF60 on Tue Dec 2 01:18:19 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by North-Easten T/O on Mon Dec 1 15:53:47 2008. That's the only way to do this job. You basically have to become like a carriage horse with blinders and look straight ahead. I don't hassle anyone over anything. I just drive the bus and try and make it through the day safely. You're on your own out there and have to rely on your instincts and street smarts in order to make it. I've survived over 18 years doing the job this way and plan to continue doing it this way until I hopefully make it to retirement. You never know what kind of low life subhuman scumbag will board your bus at the next stop. If the TA wants me to enforce their rules then issue me a gun and then I'll enforce the rules. I drove the B46 back when I was a rookie and remember it being a scary experience.My heartfelt condolences go out to the family, friends and co-workers of brother Thomas. May he rest in peace. |
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Posted by TheHat on Tue Dec 2 01:20:39 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Dec 2 01:03:58 2008. Seattle has partions since Mark McLaugin was murdered and his bus drove off a bridge in the mid 90's, DC Metro has now started to use them too after assauts on employees rose. The MTA makes us fend for ourselfs, "Partions obstruct view" or "They're not customer freindly" I had an incident similar in nature ealier this year on the BxM1. A girl didn't pay her fare and then came up and asked for a transfer. I told her we cant print x-fers on express buses. Our faresets in Yonkers were changed and have no ability to issue transfers. She became enraged and threatend me and demand that the passengers give her money. I pulled over and took the bus out of service and was allowing the other passengers to exit, to keep them safe as per procedure and she physcally prevented anyone from leaving the bus, and demanded money, I asked Bus Command Center to call the police. The BCC never called the police. She held everyone on the bus even after I identified myself as an Auxiliary Police Officer, until a supervisor came in ex-NYBS supervisor car which looked like a police car and she took off. |
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Posted by Operator3319 on Tue Dec 2 01:31:04 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by North-Easten T/O on Mon Dec 1 15:57:57 2008. well it's high time that they let Bus Operators carry some kind of protection weather it be mace or a hammer |
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Posted by GOLD_12th on Tue Dec 2 01:47:00 2008, in response to Re: Bus Operator on the B46 Stabbed, posted by Operator3319 on Tue Dec 2 01:31:04 2008. Teaser would be better. Or even a paint ball gun. |
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