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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jun 25 11:57:17 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 11:34:23 2006.

No...quite to the point, many religious rites and beliefs -- by our modern standard of living (and scientific knowledge) -- are silly and based on handed-down 'wives tales' and superstitions.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 11:58:56 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jun 24 04:37:24 2006.

People are free to make their own choices.

Yes, they are. But having a moral and ethic guide is a big plus.

because some guy cooped up in a room somewhere thousands of years ago said "this is the way it is" and wrote it down in what he called a "sacred book" doesn't mean it's correct, just because it says it's correct.

Some guy didn't write it. G-d did...

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 12:13:01 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 24 10:28:54 2006.

What's different and special about Jewish women

Yasmine Bleeth from Baywatch is Jewish
And yes her boobs are real

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 25 12:31:38 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 11:19:37 2006.

Like I said.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 13:03:21 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 12:13:01 2006.

Yeah, perhaps, but there are plenty of non-Jewish women you can say the same thing about.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 13:04:33 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 11:32:57 2006.

Not false!

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 13:04:58 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 11:32:21 2006.

No, that's what the humans who wrote the stuff down said.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 13:07:58 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 11:58:56 2006.

Yes, they are. But having a moral and ethic guide is a big plus.

I agree. And that is what religion is all about. It does "tame" people to an extent, at least not when taken to the extremes.

Some guy didn't write it. G-d did...

That's where I disagree. God, didn't write it. All the various religions claim that there is divine intervention of course, but that was also assumed by the people writing (or speaking before written) said.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 25 13:13:17 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 13:07:58 2006.

God didn't write it

Assuming you mean the Scriptures, they don't even claim that God wrote them; but that they were inspired by God, save the Ten Commandments which He Himself wrote.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 13:13:21 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 13:04:33 2006.

To elaborate.
By some chance, a devout Jew marries a devout Catholic (unlikely if both are "devout", but say for arguments sake, that's what happened).
They have a son. That boy is raised Catholic. He will believe in the Catholic faith when he is older, and that's what he will see as the truth.
Turn the table. He is raised Jewish. He will believe in the Jewish faith when he is older, and that's what he will see as the truth.

Same set of genes in either case.

Of course their are converts to religion too, but in most of the time you will not have a Jewish convert to Christianity, or a Christian convert to Judism, at least certainly not as many as remain Jewish or Christian (or throw in Islamic too) when raised the respective religion by their parents that have ingrained all the values, laws, etc of that religion into them since born.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 13:18:07 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 25 13:13:17 2006.

I never said that God wrote it, I was responding to a comment that said "God wrote it". I actually mentioned that most of the religions claim "Divine intervention" in the writting of the Scriptures.

but that they were inspired by God,

That's what the humans that wrote (or spoke) of the Scriptures claimed. That's a human claim.

save the Ten Commandments which He Himself wrote.

Perhaps, but a HUMAN claimed thay that is what the story was. People are easily swayed, so they take it as automatic fact. Some guy claimed there was a "Moses" that got the 10 Commandments on the mount. The same scriptures claim that Adam and Eve got screwed after eating an apple too, and told by a snake to do so. And those same two people populated the earth.

Moses' story may be true, and it may not be. Again, some guy cooped up in a room wrote that, and claimed that this is the way it was.


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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by BIE on Sun Jun 25 13:58:43 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 11:29:51 2006.

It is up to each of us to honor and worship G-d as we see fit. Having said that, I am glad that there are young people like you and your wife who choose to uphold the Tradition.

THANK YOU, Brian!!!
jb

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by tracksionmotor on Sun Jun 25 13:59:08 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 25 13:13:17 2006.

Which Charleton Heston rescued!

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by BIE on Sun Jun 25 14:00:23 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jun 25 11:57:17 2006.

So what. Show respect.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jun 25 14:03:44 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jun 25 11:57:17 2006.

Merely explaining myself...no reason to take offense. I respect people's RIGHT to have faith in whatever religion they choose....but doesn't mean I have to BELIEVE it.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by BIE on Sun Jun 25 14:05:05 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 12:13:01 2006.

I think that Jewish women have a better sense of humor and are more creative than average.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jun 25 14:08:52 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 13:18:07 2006.

Preach on!

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jun 25 14:10:18 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by BIE on Sun Jun 25 14:05:05 2006.

That's true about the Jewish people in general...

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 14:36:19 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by BIE on Sun Jun 25 14:00:23 2006.

I respect people who believe in what they believe in and uphold it very much. I respect Brian very much actually, and give a lot of credit for believing and upholding what he believes in. It's a remarkable occurance in this day and age.
But at the same time, I can also disagree, not necessarily with Brian, but rather with many of the religions. This is not to say I disrespect people that believe in their religions. I actually respect them very much (but again, that doesn't mean I have to agree with their assesment).

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 14:42:24 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by orange blossom special on Fri Jun 23 22:07:25 2006.

I would probably not set out in search of a Jewish girl, but I wouldn't rule one out if it "just happened". It's a tough decision though, as if I would follow a path like that, there would be so many things I would have to change about my life that I probably wouldn't want to change. And for her, she would also have to change a lot of things about her life that she may not want to change. Relationships are tough enough as it is, without adding that extra burden on top of it yet.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Jun 25 15:31:53 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 14:36:19 2006.

Brian has a right to his religious beliefs. If following them helps him navigate the world and give him comfort, that's great. But he assumes that everybody else thinks the way he does, and confuses his religious beliefs with some universal truth we're all supposed to agree with.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 16:38:53 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jun 24 19:28:51 2006.

oy

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 16:41:44 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by xtimx on Sun Jun 25 02:51:46 2006.

You would?

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 16:44:22 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by mambomta on Tue Jun 20 14:38:41 2006.

Life doesn't make sense. Which is just the way I like it :)

Actually, it makes a lot of sense. I'm sorry you don't "get" life. Life is a lot better when it has meaning.

... or you've created a new tradition or set of traditions for your family.

You don't create new traditions when we've had 3,000 years of beautiful traditions. You need to respect that. The Jewish religion didn't survive by people changing the traditions. It survived by people KEEPING the tradition. And we're all better because of it.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 16:44:35 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Jun 25 08:17:02 2006.

Is your wife Jewish?

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 16:48:55 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 25 12:31:38 2006.

No you didn't.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 16:50:33 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by BIE on Sun Jun 25 13:58:43 2006.

Thank you.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 16:51:38 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 13:04:58 2006.

How do you know? You weren't there. Plus, have you seen all the bible codes? It is doubtful that a human could have included all those codes in there.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 16:52:41 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 13:13:21 2006.

I'm not sure what you are talking about, but the kid will only be Jewish if his mother was Jewish.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 16:54:16 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Jun 25 15:31:53 2006.

But he assumes that everybody else thinks the way he does,

No I don't.

and confuses his religious beliefs with some universal truth we're all supposed to agree with.

No I don't. The universal truths we believe in are mostly based on the Jewish religion.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 16:55:48 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by BMT Guy on Sun Jun 25 11:57:17 2006.

quite to the point, many religious rites and beliefs -- by our modern standard of living (and scientific knowledge) -- are silly and based on handed-down 'wives tales' and superstitions.

Please list some Jewish "rites and beliefs" that are not up to the "modern standard of living (and scientific knowledge)". Because I can't think of any.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 16:58:40 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 13:07:58 2006.

That's where I disagree. God, didn't write it.

There is so much stuff in the Torah that no human could possibly have known at the time. Plus there are codes written in there that no human could have written. It was SO written by G-d.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 16:59:52 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 13:03:21 2006.

But we have Yasmine Bleeth and you can't have her.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by BIE on Sun Jun 25 17:00:34 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 16:59:52 2006.

You can't either.
8-)

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 17:02:04 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 14:42:24 2006.

EXACTLY!!!

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 17:13:25 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by BIE on Sun Jun 25 17:00:34 2006.

She's a fellow heeb. She's part of the clan. I am one with her.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by xtimx on Sun Jun 25 17:14:42 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 16:41:44 2006.

i would marry someone i love. i wouldn't go around and marry someone solely because they believe in the same nonsensical rhetorical bullshit.

its 2006 and people still place insane restrictions on themselves based on some made up books from thousands or years ago.



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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 17:20:36 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by xtimx on Sun Jun 25 17:14:42 2006.

i would marry someone i love.

So would I (and I did).

i wouldn't go around and marry someone solely because they believe in the same nonsensical rhetorical bullshit.

Obviously. I don't think anyone does that. Have you ever heard of anyone doing that?

its 2006 and people still place insane restrictions on themselves based on some made up books from thousands or years ago.

The Torah is not made up. It was written by G-d. And living your life by it is a beautiful way to live. You hate because you don't understand. Try reading it (and understanding it, with the help of a Rabbi if need be) before you pass judgment.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 25 17:26:38 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 16:48:55 2006.

Didn't what?

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by xtimx on Sun Jun 25 17:36:20 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 17:20:36 2006.

how do you know it was written by god? how do you know any of it was true?

every species on the earth fit into a giant boat, they somehow all lived and every animal today comes from those 2 of every species?!?!

i could go on and on. but hey if you want to believe in nonsense so you feel good at the end of the day, have fun.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Jun 25 17:39:56 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by xtimx on Sun Jun 25 17:36:20 2006.

"how do you know it was written by god? how do you know any of it was true?"

F*A*I*T*H!

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by xtimx on Sun Jun 25 17:48:19 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Jun 25 17:39:56 2006.

aka NO PROOF WHATSOEVER
aka i am scared by the guilt trips in the "holy" books so i'll believe it so whne i die i fly around in some magical place

again, if people want to be stupid thats up to them but they are basing their entire lives on some magical promise written thousands of years ago by who knows who.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Jun 25 17:55:21 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by xtimx on Sun Jun 25 17:48:19 2006.

To each their own.
Just make sure when you die and fly around in some magical place
you're not going downhill with people whispering along the route: "We Warned You!"

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 18:02:45 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 25 17:26:38 2006.

NO YOU DIN'T.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by xtimx on Sun Jun 25 18:02:51 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Jun 25 17:55:21 2006.

when i die i'll give back to the earth as everyone has.

other animals will eat my body and life will go on. as it has for millions of years.

the made up concept of hell doesn't scare me. i'm no longer a child, that stuff doesn't work on me anymore.

i'm pretty sure that last thing you wrote was taken word for word from one of those awful jack chick tracts.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 18:05:30 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by xtimx on Sun Jun 25 18:02:51 2006.

No, you will not get eaten by other animals, because unlike Jews, you will be buried in some solid steel (or something similar) casket that will take thousands of years to break down.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 18:08:41 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by xtimx on Sun Jun 25 17:36:20 2006.

how do you know it was written by god? how do you know any of it was true?

Faith. With the added bonus that some of the stuff in there could never have been known or predicted by humans at the time.

every species on the earth fit into a giant boat, they somehow all lived and every animal today comes from those 2 of every species?!?!

Yes, it's called a "miracle." Pity you don't believe in it. But I'm sure that someday, at least once in your life, you WILL be praying for one.

i could go on and on.

Please do, I'm enjoying it.

but hey if you want to believe in nonsense so you feel good at the end of the day, have fun.

You don't know that it is nonsense any more than I know that it is the absolute truth. So you are talking out of your ass. Make love, not war.


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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 18:10:11 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 18:05:30 2006.

The body will rot and disintergrate regardless of being in a casket or not.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by New Brunswick Station on Sun Jun 25 18:11:50 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by American Pig on Wed Jun 21 15:13:09 2006.

....Jewish Deaf Singles consisted mostly of users of American Sign Language, which is a language, just as English is a language.

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Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 25 18:12:02 2006, in response to Re: The Jewish Woman Shortage, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 25 18:10:11 2006.

Yep. But it won't get eaten by other animals until the casket breaks down, AFAIK. And the rottage will be much slower if, unlike Jews, you pump the body full of chemicals before burial...

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