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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 15 19:48:12 2009 The Lo-V cars are slated to run along the White Plains Road line (I assume) from E 180 St as the bonus part of the Saturday, June 20, 2009, excursion.The info is not on the website. NOSTALGIA RIDE: WEST FARMS-EAST TREMONT STATION/BRONX ZOO Take Pride,
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Posted by joe c on Fri May 15 20:23:43 2009, in response to Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 15 19:48:12 2009. Interesting,most fans have been stating that the TOMC will be doingthis Nostalgia Excursion. til next time |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri May 15 20:37:19 2009, in response to Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 15 19:48:12 2009. If it is the low v, that would be awesome. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri May 15 20:39:35 2009, in response to Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 15 19:48:12 2009. Hmm, we now know that the starting point is GC shuttle, Track 1. |
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Posted by R-1-9 on Fri May 15 20:58:23 2009, in response to Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 15 19:48:12 2009. There is no info if it is going to be the Lo-V,s.TOMC might be the cars of the run.We will soon find out as the run date comes closer. |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Fri May 15 21:00:16 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri May 15 20:39:35 2009. Hmm, we now know that the starting point is GC shuttle, Track 1.I know that its not likely to happen but just once I'd like to ride track 4 straight through to the Broadway Line. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri May 15 21:08:40 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Fri May 15 21:00:16 2009. That probably would make more sense as it would go to the Bronx directly than to turn around at the loop. But would the train still have room at the front [not at the very end of the platform where the rail guards are] to get decent pics of it? |
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Posted by danny at 103rd street on Fri May 15 23:43:53 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by R-1-9 on Fri May 15 20:58:23 2009. I hope the TOMC Run |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat May 16 00:05:10 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by danny at 103rd street on Fri May 15 23:43:53 2009. Wouldn't you want the Low V's to run? I mean as great as the TOMC is, they've been running for nearly all the recent events. They should run something different imo. |
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Posted by South Ferry on Sat May 16 01:03:40 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat May 16 00:05:10 2009. Agreed (and I'm a big mark for the TOMC). Havent seen the V's out since ehhh... 2006/ish |
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Posted by danny at 103rd street on Sat May 16 01:05:57 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by South Ferry on Sat May 16 01:03:40 2009. I rather have the TOMC run then the Arnine that would be a better Run |
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Posted by joe c on Sat May 16 01:07:13 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat May 16 00:05:10 2009. I agree,i'd rather see the Low-V's out then the TOMC.some of the fansthink the TOMC are overrated. til next time |
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Posted by danny at 103rd street on Sat May 16 01:26:15 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by joe c on Sat May 16 01:07:13 2009. I dont |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat May 16 01:34:56 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by danny at 103rd street on Sat May 16 01:05:57 2009. I don't see why people even like the TOMC - the LoV's, Arnines, Standards and D-types had style - everything else is a box on wheels. I only became a subway fan because of the pre-war cars. I actually hated the so-called redbirds with their boxlike appearance and hard longitudinal seats. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 01:51:12 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by BMTLines on Sat May 16 01:34:56 2009. It actually makes some sense ... to most of the younger folks, those were the trains of their childhood much like the old steels were to us. You don't see folks dissing THOSE because they're not made of wood and pulled behind a Forney engine. :)To each their own ... let's be glad that there's some of ALL of them able to run still. Soon, the R68's will be "nostalgia trains." :) |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sat May 16 02:55:23 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by South Ferry on Sat May 16 01:03:40 2009. Didn't they come out for the final game at Yankee Stadium last year? |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat May 16 03:03:30 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by BMTLines on Sat May 16 01:34:56 2009. Aside from the 4 museum cars, the others are just repainted redbirds. Nothing really special about them imo.Maybe they should paint one pair for the Yankees-Mets 2000 WS. I say use the red [paint it white and have that for the Yankees]-greenbird [for the Mets] pair. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat May 16 03:03:57 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by G1Ravage on Sat May 16 02:55:23 2009. Yep. |
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Posted by South Ferry on Sat May 16 03:30:50 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat May 16 03:03:57 2009. I'm not a Yawnkee mark. |
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Posted by South Ferry on Sat May 16 03:32:33 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by danny at 103rd street on Sat May 16 01:05:57 2009. Agreed. Can't never get enough of the SMEE/TOMC set.Already got my fill of R9s and that was only in two holiday visits. Lo-V would be a welcome variance. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat May 16 04:01:47 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by South Ferry on Sat May 16 03:30:50 2009. But you missed the Low V. |
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Posted by South Ferry on Sat May 16 04:34:45 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat May 16 04:01:47 2009. No, but being near Yawnkee Staydumb would have spoiled the lore of being onboard the Lo-V. :Cp |
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Posted by danny at 103rd street on Sat May 16 04:52:55 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by South Ferry on Sat May 16 03:32:33 2009. they always run the Arnine, I mean I dont Hate the Arnine but I think they should Run the TOMC instead of the Arnine.Hopefully if they have the holiday train that the run the TOMC or Redbirds instead of the Arnine. already got my fill of the R9 and that was on the Bahamas Express |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat May 16 07:53:56 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 01:51:12 2009. Soon, the R68's will be "nostalgia trains." :)I still call the R-32's "the NEW trains" :( |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 16 08:21:25 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 01:51:12 2009. It actually makes some sense ... to most of the younger folks, those were the trains of their childhood much like the old steels were to us.Depends on what TOMC cars is in question. If we're talking about the R-12/15/17 and 33S, then I'm all for that. Those are the true 'Museum' cars. OTOH the repainted Rebirds are just there for more passenger capacity. Their faded yet inaccurate colors along with their radically changed interiors don't do it for me. I agree with BMT Lines, the older equipment, the better. That's where the real history is. Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 16 08:24:09 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by G1Ravage on Sat May 16 02:55:23 2009. Didn't they come out for the final game at Yankee Stadium last year?They ceratinly did. I rode that packed four car train from Grand Central to 161st St. And when they laid up the Low-V's on the center track, they blew the whistle big time catching the attention of those in the stands as well as the neighborhood. Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 16 08:28:28 2009, in response to Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 15 19:48:12 2009. I clicked on the MTA site and scrolled and printed it. There is no mention of Low-V's but 'vintage' comes close to describing them. I heard that the R-38 air pumps were replaced by some salvaged D-3F's. If this is true, count me on that train.Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by BarnYard on Sat May 16 08:29:19 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 16 08:21:25 2009. Excellent point regarding seating capacity.And with A/C equipt cars,passengers wishing to escape the heat can ride in those cars.Some hygenically challenged enthusiasts riding in those cars may reach the point of ripeness later in the day.It will be just about summer solstice,so anything that keeps malodorousness in check is welcome on a hot,humid day. Running the train around summer solstice also gives the Pagan rail fans a two-fer. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 16 08:36:40 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by BarnYard on Sat May 16 08:29:19 2009. Excellent point regarding seating capacity.And with A/C equipt cars,passengers wishing to escape the heat can ride in those cars. Yeah but to truly live history, you must shun the A/C cars and bask in the warmth and deafening sound of the roaring axiflow ceiling fans. Today's HVAC is too quiet, too comfy! Heh. Ya gotta rough it to experience it. Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by BarnYard on Sat May 16 08:49:01 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 16 08:36:40 2009. Bill,it's nice to live & experience history.The Romans built a system of aqueducts 2,000 years ago.Now if some of our colleagueswould use some indoor plumbing to take a bath(or shower) & wash their clothes,my point about A/C would be moot.The car cards on the Lo-V's did have some ads for soap & detergent. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 16 08:58:45 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by BarnYard on Sat May 16 08:49:01 2009. Now if some of our colleagues would use some indoor plumbing to take a bath(or shower) & wash their clothes,my point about A/C would be moot.Body odor is just as bad in an A/C car as I experienced that with some of the great unwashed. When ya stink, ya stink. Time to strap our 'colleagues' to the carbody and run then through the car wash !! Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by merrick1 on Sat May 16 09:04:52 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by BMTLines on Sat May 16 01:34:56 2009. Back in the late 1970's nostalgia trains ran frequently and many people were disappointed when R9's were used. After all, the cars had been in revenue service until only a few years earlier and older equipment was still running in revenue service in Philadelphia and Boston.I like the R33 and R36 Worlds Fair cars because they are the first new cars I really remember. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat May 16 09:05:01 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 16 08:28:28 2009. Yeah, for so many years those Lo-'s haven't been making the proper sounds thanks to the wrong air compressors. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat May 16 09:17:57 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by BMTLines on Sat May 16 07:53:56 2009. I remember when they were brand spanking new. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat May 16 09:20:02 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by South Ferry on Sat May 16 03:32:33 2009. I couldn't get enough of the R-1/9s myself, if were closer to NYC. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat May 16 09:22:30 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by danny at 103rd street on Sat May 16 01:05:57 2009. Well, the R-1/9s can't run on the IRT, anyway.:) |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat May 16 11:34:28 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 16 08:28:28 2009. Bill: I guess that its a matter of perspective. The R-17's stopped running over 30 years ago so I guess we could call them "vintage" not to mention the R-12 and R-15. Even today the R-32s and R-40s are on the "endangered species" list.Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by R32_3671 on Sat May 16 11:47:53 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat May 16 11:34:28 2009. I rather The Low V's, I haven rode on one yet, I like the TOMC but its time for some Old equipment, It would be nice to run Just R33WF and The Repainted redbird R36WF's, Because those Cars are not overated like the Mainline Redbirds, But Low V all the way or R33/36WF. |
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Posted by South Ferry on Sat May 16 12:12:31 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 16 08:21:25 2009. Their faded yet inaccurate colors along with their radically changed interiors don't do it for me."Radically changed interiors"..... what got changed?? (i's been outta the loop) |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat May 16 13:39:03 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat May 16 03:03:30 2009. They have 1 of those Subway Series cars at the Seashore Trolley Museum in Kennebunkport, Maine: R33 9327.I agree. If they really wanted to save a redbird set, one pair of the Subway Series Special set should've been kept for Nostalgic purposes. IMO, I would've kept 9394-9395. They were in far better shape than 9712-9713 were in. Also, as 9394's front wrap was for the NY Mets, as in this picture below by Salaam Allah, 9395 could've had a Yankees Wrap on its front:  Now they're living under the sea with Spongebob Squarepants..so we could only dream. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat May 16 13:41:10 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by danny at 103rd street on Sat May 16 04:52:55 2009. IAWTP. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat May 16 14:07:52 2009, in response to Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 15 19:48:12 2009. Ok, it's time for my say on this issue...Although I do enjoy riding the R9s and Low Vs, both sets were retired before my time. Therefore, I do not have the same feel to those cars as I do with the TOMC. I grew up looking, listening and riding the Redbirds and TOMC. To me, they're my version of nostalgia.What I would do if I were in charge is to run the Transit Museum "Fantastic 4" (R12 5760, R15 6239, R17 6609, R33 9306) with the Repainted redbirds...either R36 9400-9401 or 9582-9587). They are currently in far better shape than R33 ML 9010-9011 9016-9017 9068-9069 and 9206-9207 are in. The 8 R33 ML just need a correct makeover from the inside out. I know right now that can not be done and will be in due time. But if the redbirds have been redone and have that shining glow to them, then they can be run and put to good use. I think this summer you will get 1 train of everything...well almost. The TOMC will bring you from Grand Central to the Bronx. From there, you will switch over to the Low Vs for the extra rides. Then the Low V train will bring you back to the Bronx where you will rejoin the TOMC. The 2nd TM trip will be strictly Arnines. The only "main" cars that will be missing use this year will be the D-Types, Triplexes and BUs. It would be great if they had a set accompany the R9s...such as R32s R38s or R40 Slants or a mixed array of cars...but we can only dream of that situation and the R9s will do us fans well enough. Now as I said a few months ago with the R9s during the Holidays, I thought the line and route they were running on for 5 Sundays in a row was too repetitive and lacking variety. However, I then realized from fellow railfans that the other line I was thinking about them to run on was OOS for repairs and then there's the most popular fan base. During that time, 6th Ave serves that purpose more than Broadway does. I, too, felt that the TOMC could've and should've been run. IMO, the 7 line has that fanbase-Queens to Manhattan via 42 Street. Low Vs could've ran on the 42 St Shuttle. BUT, the idea is take what is given to you and be lucky that you have the priviledge to be operated for that consecutive amount of time. It may not be exactly what WE want, but at least it is something. As far as my status, I hope to be chasing the 2 trips for videos and photos. However, I'm not 100% certain if I will be able to do that or not. When the time gets closer, then I'll have a better idea what I will be doing. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat May 16 15:32:29 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat May 16 11:34:28 2009. IIRC the R-17s rode off into the sunset in early 1988. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat May 16 16:57:49 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat May 16 09:17:57 2009. So do I.Now me and you better stop showing our age. |
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Posted by aem7ac on Sat May 16 17:16:24 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Sat May 16 14:07:52 2009. who cares, they're all NY equipment.the minute they say they're running a 01400 series or a mcguinness blue and white budd cah, i will be there. hell, they could run an almond joy, a metroliner, or an SOAC and that'd be more fun than a stupid NY cah. |
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Posted by aem7ac on Sat May 16 17:18:35 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by aem7ac on Sat May 16 17:16:24 2009. hell, even for NY equipment there are more fun ones to run:an LI alco an ACMU an MP-54 ha, even an M-1... i'd rather ride that than any preserved NYC subway cah! |
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Posted by Jeff H. on Sat May 16 20:03:12 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by BMTLines on Sat May 16 01:34:56 2009. I would think that at the turn of the last centur, railfans of the timedidn't care for the steel battleships which replaced the "character" of forney steam engines, wooden coaches and gas lamps. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 20:09:47 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat May 16 16:57:49 2009. When not running arnines, it was 32's for me years ago. Rarely a set of 16's, 27's and 30's and once a set of artens in revenue. I think we can all be grateful, those of us who ran the 32's *before* they phucked them all up with that spooty air conditioning and weird changes to the bulkeads and cabs. A couple of years ago, had a look inside a "modern" 32 cab and it reminded me of a nuclear power plant with all the crap they wedged in there. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 16 20:18:25 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat May 16 08:21:25 2009. I was never fond of the IRT cars because of what they replaced, and sorta agree with you ... but then again, like I said, these junkers are what today's kids grew up with and have deep meaning to them. It's all good. :) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat May 16 21:00:36 2009, in response to Re: Lo-V cars part of NYTM Nostalgia Train Excursion, posted by R-1-9 on Fri May 15 20:58:23 2009. Did you not read what I wrote? How can you say there is no info when I just gave you the info? |
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