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I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009

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You heard it right....I was hancuffed and brought down to district 12 for unauthorized photography,unreasonable voice/discon,and impeding traffic....this is the story:

I was at freeman st on the 2 on the s/b plat taking pics...a officer(p.o mede/#6673)yelled to me just as I was getting on the train to leave....he asked for I.d; I showed him and he proceeds to tell me I'm not supposed to be taking pics...I told him that's not true, and I'm willing to bet your paycheck...so as we're in disagreement, his partner who is on the n/b side(p.o almonte/#3355)asked what was I doing...his partner said taking pics...he told me I had to delete them...I told him I'm not doing that....so he comes over to where me and the cop are at, and we proceed to go back and forth on what I can/cant do in regards to the photos....eventually, he called his sargent, and the sargent says I'm not allowed to take pics...I told him on t/a's rules of conduct it says we are....the sargent tells me their rules and t/a's rules are different....I told him, if you feel I'm in the wrong, give me a a summons and I'll see everyone in court...the sargent says to arrest me....so after being brought down to district 12 to get a warrant check and all that good stuff(mind u I told him I needed the bathroom and to make a call, and those things were denied until I was about to leave), I get my 3 summones(1 for the photography, one for discon/unreasonable voice, and the other for impeding traffic)....I go to court for the photography in march and the other 2 in april....I'll be weighing the other options and will look for a lawyer in addition to filing a few ccrb complaints.....so the controversy continues with whether or not we can or can't take pictures down here.....(I asked the cops what are u giving me a summons for before being handcuffed, they said you'll see it when u get it)
*also, the photos were not deleted; I ended up keeping them......

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Ken S. on Thu Feb 12 21:01:06 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.

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1. Contact NYCLU
2. Contact ACLU
3. Contact the news networks and papers
4. Comtact CCRB

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Feb 12 21:04:33 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.

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It probably would have been better for you had you not gone on the "bet the officer's paycheck" route.

To me, your account of the situation justifies the disorderly conduct charge.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Mac5689 on Thu Feb 12 21:10:31 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.

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there is only one thing to do when u talk to police officers (NYPD or others). shut up and don't say a thing, other then what are they changing u with and u want to speak to a lawyer.

other then that is hopeless, police officers will always think they are right, or believe what they want to.



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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by BMTLines on Thu Feb 12 21:13:48 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.

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This is an OUTRAGE - contact the NYCLU.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by R PansePCC on Thu Feb 12 21:21:13 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.

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Sorry to hear about your ordeal. The outcome might have been different if your tone was not as harsh. The police are bigger scumbags when you give them lip. Good luck with following through on this.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Easy on Thu Feb 12 21:42:30 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Feb 12 21:04:33 2009.

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What part of his account justified the disorderly conduct charge?

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Easy on Thu Feb 12 21:46:07 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.

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I once got a summons in LA and as it was almost $1,000 just for the one summons, I'd hate to see what three would be. In LA you're supposed to pay the entire fine as bail, just to get a trial. If NYC is the same way and the judge doesn't cut you slack, it could be very expensive just to fight it. But the best of luck to you!

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Feb 12 21:46:08 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.

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looks like we are living in the land of gestapos
my opinion
kkk
nazi
territory

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Ken S. on Thu Feb 12 21:46:11 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Feb 12 21:04:33 2009.

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I guess the judge will probably throw the whole case out since these cops don't understand NYCRR 1050 and made up a bogus charge to begin with. It might be time to start reporting police misconduct to the US Attorney's Office.

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Re:(Print out MTA Rule) I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu Feb 12 22:02:22 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Feb 12 21:04:33 2009.

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Print out the Photagraphe rule ane save it in your pocket and if anyone stop you you show it to them 105.4 rule.

BTH I agree with R36#9346:"It probably would have been better for you had you not gone on the "bet the officer's paycheck" route"
because the officer probably took that as Being and asshole all due respect

THANKS
DANNY

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Feb 12 22:19:33 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Ken S. on Thu Feb 12 21:01:06 2009.

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CALL BARACK OBAMA!

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Feb 12 22:21:51 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Feb 12 21:46:08 2009.

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It will get worse, not better.

MARK the LION's word on this!

ROAR

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by FLASH GORDON on Thu Feb 12 22:36:47 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.

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You have gone this far might as well go the whole 9 yards and find out
what the law really is.
The cops wont show up so the case will be trown out or delayed for months.
Ask the news papers for a good lawyer they will know who does good with this kind of case.
Good luck hope it works out.

FLASH GORDON

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Mac5689 on Thu Feb 12 23:01:28 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Ken S. on Thu Feb 12 21:46:11 2009.

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not unless the Judge doesn't ubderstand/heard about it. i don't think a judge will throw it out, not on the words of three police officers.

anyway there is no use reporting Police Misconduct because, they will just cover it up unless there is proof. i mean it took about ten years for the SCPD to stop asking immigrants their status when reporting a crime, even though SCPD denied they did it. and that only happen because someone leaked the forms they use to Newsday, and because of that killing of an immigrant in Patchogue. SCPD officers also reclassified reports (a few that happened on the same day that the immigrant was killed in Patchogue) about crimes against immigrants to safe on the paperwork, that to came out because of the killing of an immigrant in Patchogue. i'm not even sure that those officers who did reclassified those reports, were ever disciplined for it.





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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Feb 12 23:07:48 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Feb 12 22:21:51 2009.

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lol
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but really LION this is way over the top!
damnn this makes me mad
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aaaaaaggghhh !!
:)

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Neil Feldman on Thu Feb 12 23:15:42 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.

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Send a letter to CCRB! That arrest was unjust, and illegal! As well, send it to the NYCLU!

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Feb 12 23:16:48 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Easy on Thu Feb 12 21:42:30 2009.

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when he said: "bet the officer's paycheck"

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 23:18:09 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Ken S. on Thu Feb 12 21:01:06 2009.

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i probably shouldnt have said nothing to the officer, but my thing was if you are going to write the summons, then what would i be getting one for.........
the discon and the impeding traffic is absurd.......the discon probably was because he didnt appricate me talking back with him, and i dont know why i got the impeding traffic summons........

anyhow, i look forward to court( i told him i'll see him there), and i'll call ccrb tommorrow, and then look to make other moves.....

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by BMTLines on Thu Feb 12 23:23:30 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Neil Feldman on Thu Feb 12 23:15:42 2009.

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Or at least contact the NYCLU to recommend an attorney even if they do not handle it themselves. Both the MTA and the NYPD need to be sued and sued heavily over this.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Easy on Thu Feb 12 23:24:15 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Feb 12 23:16:48 2009.

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Disrespectful maybe, but not disorderly.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Feb 12 23:50:06 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.

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I think if you told your story this way things may have worked out differently:


I was at freeman st on the 2 on the s/b plat taking pics...a officer(p.o mede/#6673)yelled to me just as I was getting on the train to leave....he asked for I.d; I showed him and he proceeds to tell me I'm not supposed to be taking pics...I told him I'm sorry I didn't know that.
I then proceeded to get on the train and the rest of my day was great!

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Feb 12 23:50:33 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Feb 12 23:50:06 2009.

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IAWTP

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Mac5689 on Thu Feb 12 23:54:58 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by FLASH GORDON on Thu Feb 12 22:36:47 2009.

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i don't know about what happens in his case, but if u are given a ticket while driving, isn't the officer that gave it to u suppose to be there the day u have the hearing or whatever u call it?
if so i don't see y one of the officer wouldn't show up in his case.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Mac5689 on Thu Feb 12 23:56:52 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Easy on Thu Feb 12 23:24:15 2009.

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it prob depends on who u are talking to. some prob see it as disorderly, and another may not.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Mac5689 on Fri Feb 13 00:00:14 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Feb 12 23:50:06 2009.

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i don't know if it would have gone better that way, because i'm sure that officer wouldn't have let him that easily.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 13 00:04:29 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Ken S. on Thu Feb 12 21:01:06 2009.

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Agreed.

Both the sergeant and officers were wrong; go to court, get the charges tossed and then file a claim against NYPD.



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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by BMTLines on Fri Feb 13 00:07:19 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Feb 12 23:50:06 2009.

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.I told him I'm sorry I didn't know that.
I then proceeded to get on the train and the rest of my day was great!


Why should we apologize for doing something that is perfectly legal? The NYPD and the MTA need to be sued over this.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 13 00:07:26 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Easy on Thu Feb 12 23:24:15 2009.

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I agree with you. Actually, it wasn't even disrespectful.

I fault the sergeant the most here. At least the officers called to ask a supervisor. Had the supervisor (sergeant) said, "Photography's fine; let him go," it would have been over with no harm done.



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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 13 00:08:08 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by BMTLines on Fri Feb 13 00:07:19 2009.

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Agreed.

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Re:(Print out MTA Rule) I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Feb 13 00:14:18 2009, in response to Re:(Print out MTA Rule) I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu Feb 12 22:02:22 2009.

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The cops are supposed to have thicker skins than that. What I don't get, is that they went through all that nonsense, dragging him down to the precinct in handcuffs, etc, and still, he goes home, pics and all, which is why the whole thing started!

Yup, the NYPD and MTA need to get hauled into court on this one, in a very public way. This is really starting to get out of hand.

BTW, the reason he got arrested in the first place is "Contempt Of Cop", which I have described in other posts. Essentially, it means if you give a cop any "back talk", ask why you were stopped, or ask for a shield number, you WILL get charged with disorderly conduct. Sad but true.

Still waiting to see a SCA-type from Ronkonkoma get pulled off a train, get checked for warrants, and ticketed for walking between the cars...see it daily, sometimes right in front of the uniforms. Nothing happens. But back home, at Jamaica Center, well, that's another story...I've even seen photography discouraged there...

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Fri Feb 13 00:35:10 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.

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Carrying the NYCT rules as well as the photographer's rights and an NYCLU letter with you at all times you are photographing can be a big help. At the same time, I do agree with everyone else here. It's all in the matter of your tone and how you presented your case. Betting their paycheck on it wasn't the smartest of things to say. Don't escalate the situation further by answering them back in an uneasy tone. If you have to delete the pics, so let it be it. It is not worth getting arrested over. Now you will have a record.
Don't get me wrong, the arrest was unlawfully done and I think the Press, ACLU, NYCLU and CCRB should be contacted.
Somehow, someway this harrassment has got to be stopped. I wish you luck but remember, always be calm, cool, and collective.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Easy on Fri Feb 13 00:50:20 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Mac5689 on Thu Feb 12 23:54:58 2009.

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Only the one with his name on the ticket would need to show up. Something similar happened to me a couple of years ago in LA and the officer didn't show up in court.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Feb 13 00:51:35 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Feb 12 23:50:06 2009.

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I don't think they would have let him off that easy unless he deleted the pictures which he shouldn't have had to do.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Feb 13 00:59:23 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.

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Besides the remark about the paycheck, the other thing you shouldn't have said was that he should give you a summons. He didn't appreciate you telling him how to do his job. That's why you were arrested. Had you not said that, that's all he probably would have done. He just wanted to show you who was in charge, so he arrested you. Not letting you use the bathroom and the other charges were just to make things as uncomfortable for you as he could.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Feb 13 01:01:26 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by BMTLines on Fri Feb 13 00:07:19 2009.

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You are right, suing the MTA and NYPD is the route to go, however telling a officer at the time of the incident:
"I'm willing to bet your paycheck and
I told him I'm not doing that and
I told him, if you feel I'm in the wrong, give me a a summons and I'll see everyone in court" will get you detained and hasseled.
Just apologize, comply and get the names and badge numbers like you did. And despite all of what happened to you, you said:
"also, the photos were not deleted; I ended up keeping them.."
The officers knew you were right, but because you were willing to bet their paycheck they decided to earn it on YOU!

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by BMTLines on Fri Feb 13 01:03:35 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Feb 13 01:01:26 2009.

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I was using the proverbial "we" as it refers to photographers in general - the incident happened to the original poster - not me.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by BMTLines on Fri Feb 13 01:04:53 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.

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I have cross-posted this to a whole bunch of photo rights sites on the web. Lets see if the MTA gets a whole bunch of emails from around the world tomorrow...

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by South FERRY on Fri Feb 13 01:17:48 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by BMTLines on Thu Feb 12 21:13:48 2009.

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woot's teh web address??

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 13 01:45:18 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Feb 12 23:50:06 2009.

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One thing I was always told by my parents (and peers! yes, in Elizabeth NJ) was to never mouth off to a cop.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Feb 13 01:47:26 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Feb 12 23:50:06 2009.

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Agreed.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Feb 13 01:47:43 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 13 01:45:18 2009.

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Yep.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 13 02:12:21 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Fri Feb 13 00:35:10 2009.

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If the charges are dropped there is no criminal record.

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Re:(Print out MTA Rule) I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Feb 13 02:53:23 2009, in response to Re:(Print out MTA Rule) I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Feb 13 00:14:18 2009.

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Maybe cops thinks a SCA would have the $ to put up a big fight if their rights got infringed on? :just wondering:

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 13 03:26:00 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.

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That's outrageous. Yeah ok, you could have been more diplomatic with the cop, yadda yadda yadda, but you didn't say anything offensive either. If it were me I'd sue for a good chunk of change. This might not be it, but the big lawsuit is coming over this kind of crap.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Transit Jeff on Fri Feb 13 03:45:14 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.

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And the beat goes on! This really makes me sick when I read things like this. You guys on this list already know how I feel about it, from the time that poor guy was arrested in Penn Station by Amtrak Police.

However, in all fairness, I think you should have been a little more diplomatic with the officers. While you still have a good case, in my opinion, { they had no cause to hassle you in the first place } you would have come out looking better in front of a Judge if you had been a little more respectful. In a way, you helped to escalate the incident.

I'm beginning to think that photographers should infact carry a copy of the regs with them. Unfortunate, but it would probably save you a lot of grief in such situations. Sad, but you'd need copies of all the regs from the transit agencies and railroads that you're photographing on. I guess photographers will have to lug around a briefcase with them.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 13 04:35:21 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Transit Jeff on Fri Feb 13 03:45:14 2009.

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I'm beginning to think that photographers should infact carry a copy of the regs with them.

We've been saying that for years.

nycsubway.org photo permit list with links

your pal,
Fred

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Feb 13 07:04:42 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 13 03:26:00 2009.

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If it were me I'd sue for a good chunk of change.

And sue both the NYPD and the individual cop. Nothing will teach these self-important scumbags like one of their own facing a personal bankruptcy.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Feb 13 07:07:08 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Feb 13 00:59:23 2009.

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He didn't appreciate you telling him how to do his job. That's why you were arrested.

Well, someone needs to tell these clowns how to do their jobs. And if they can't do them, they should lose them. They certainly shouldn't go around abusing their powers due to their own ignorance.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 13 07:10:30 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.

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If you just say, "Yes officer", he'll go away. If you want to be more aggressive, ask for a badge number, and file a complaint with someone like the CCRB.

I've read posts like this one so many times, you'd think NYPD would issue a memo telling officers that photo taking is lawful.

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