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Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sat Sep 13 20:46:58 2008, in response to Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Sep 13 20:43:55 2008. Are you serius? |
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Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Sep 13 20:56:15 2008, in response to Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sat Sep 13 20:46:58 2008. If not its just worth watching it for first news girl ;-)http://cbs2.com/video/?id=77167@kcbs.dayport.com |
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Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 21:00:44 2008, in response to Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Sep 13 20:43:55 2008. DAMN!! |
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KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 13 21:01:47 2008, in response to Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Sep 13 20:43:55 2008. http://www.ktla.com/pages/content_landing_page/?Report-Metrolink-Engineer-May-Have-Been-=1&blockID=56225&feedID=1198Apparently, phone records also confirm according to an LA radio station. |
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Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sat Sep 13 21:03:42 2008, in response to Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Sep 13 20:56:15 2008. Wow - |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 21:04:19 2008, in response to KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 13 21:01:47 2008. Unbelievable! I'm guessing that Metrolink isn't going to be a very friendly place for railfans for a while. |
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Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sat Sep 13 21:05:10 2008, in response to Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Sep 13 20:56:15 2008. WOW, this doesn't bode well for foamers..... |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sat Sep 13 21:07:26 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 21:04:19 2008. I'm guessing that Metrolink isn't going to be a very friendly place for railfans for a while.Guess you can throw amtrak in there too, as well as UP. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 13 21:15:36 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 21:04:19 2008. I'm floored by all this. I can't imagine how anyone operating any kind of train would possibly allow themselves to be distracted in ANY way, for any reason while running but I guess that's me. Still haven't heard the report on the Green line crash in Boston where it was alleged that the operator of that LRT was texting though I'm pretty sure I heard that wasn't the case. Still ... sheesh. :( |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sat Sep 13 21:27:55 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 13 21:15:36 2008. Standard policy is to check mobile phone records so the truth in all tragic cases is going to be determined. I read the allegation in the MBTA Green Line case, but the District Attorney denied the allegation.But I'm floored too. What a thoroughly reckless thing for someone entrusted with people's lives to do. Especially since it's already been documented. I suppose that now there will be random mobile phone record checks against time operating, just as engineers and others who were drug addicts heralded the age of urinalysis after rail incidents. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 21:30:34 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by trainsarefun on Sat Sep 13 21:27:55 2008. I guess that it's possible that he sent the text from the station while the train was stopped. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Sep 13 21:37:23 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 21:30:34 2008. Guess moviebuses and the turtle will now see that transit vehicles are no joke and that safety IS paramount. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sat Sep 13 21:43:18 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 21:30:34 2008. Many railroads categorically ban personal mobile phone use while on duty. I'm not sure what the Metrolink/Veolia rule is. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Sep 13 21:45:05 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by trainsarefun on Sat Sep 13 21:27:55 2008. Appalled! Bad enough the drivers--both solo and transit bus, but RR engineer??? |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sat Sep 13 21:57:47 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Sep 13 21:45:05 2008. but RR engineer???The turning point was the head-on collision of two BNSF trains in TX in 2001 or so. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Zman179 on Sat Sep 13 22:01:19 2008, in response to KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 13 21:01:47 2008. That 15 year-old is going to take this hard. I know that poor kid is going to blame himself for this. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sat Sep 13 22:03:24 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Zman179 on Sat Sep 13 22:01:19 2008. And so will the rest of the public, I bet that YouTube video is probably going to get filled with less than peaceful comments.No one wins here. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 13 22:07:22 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Zman179 on Sat Sep 13 22:01:19 2008. Agreed ... but STILL ... *IF* this turns out to be true, an engineer, T/O, whatever has no business texting while pounding the road in the first place. And I can state from personal experience how boring it gets doing milk runs on the same iron day after day, routine after routine, X563 clear, etc ... you do NOT take your eyes off the iron for a second. Because it will be THAT second where you screw up. :(What I take from this (again, we don't know if this is true or not) is that simply on the basis of this story, you know they're already scheduling "Special High Intensity Training" for everyone as I type, along with multiple bulletins and supplements on the way. :( ... and any railfan who can't figure out "thou shalt not distract" perhaps might need the lesson. Sorry to be so hard on this ... |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sat Sep 13 22:13:56 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 21:04:19 2008. I have a feeling that any operation won't be Club Med for a while. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Zman179 on Sat Sep 13 22:18:53 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 13 22:07:22 2008. Agreed ... but STILL ... *IF* this turns out to be true, an engineer, T/O, whatever has no business texting while pounding the road in the first place.Absolutely. The TA has a zero-tolerance policy in regards to cell phones. I won't even touch my phone while I'm operating let alone text. ... and any railfan who can't figure out "thou shalt not distract" perhaps might need the lesson. Sorry to be so hard on this ... Foamers will be very troubled by this...for about a month. Foamers tend to be a very selfish bunch. Mind you, I don't know whether or not this 15 year-old fit the description of a foamer, or was simply a railfan who made an unwise choice. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 13 22:26:15 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Zman179 on Sat Sep 13 22:18:53 2008. I don't expect a 15 year old to have seen Vanna about buying a clue. However, *IF* the engineer was actually doing this, that's who I would have a problem with, encouraging the behavior in the first place. I think we know it's pretty safe if folks are HERE ... laptops have a tendency to fall out of your lap when pulling a mini, so we KNOW you're not on the road now. :) |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Sat Sep 13 22:30:44 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Zman179 on Sat Sep 13 22:18:53 2008. I saw a Staten Island Railway texting when operating in a R44 cab last year. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Zman179 on Sat Sep 13 22:39:05 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 13 22:26:15 2008. Well...nowadays with Blackberrys, anyone can have a laptop in their pocket. Still, even though I can post on SubChat anywhere above ground, I ain't gonna f-up my bread and butter. If I gotta make a call or a message, I'm gonna damn well make sure that my feet are on solid ground. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 13 22:46:21 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Zman179 on Sat Sep 13 22:39:05 2008. I never expected you, the Rob's, Bill, Dave or any of the other folks I know to be suicidal. Them checks can be like drugs sometimes ... ya always need more. Heh. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Zman179 on Sat Sep 13 22:56:03 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 13 22:46:21 2008. Them checks can be like drugs sometimes ... ya always need more.Nah, I'm not as bad as I used to be. I only need one every other week. Way back when, I had to have one every week or I got the shakes! |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Sep 13 22:56:51 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 21:30:34 2008. Nah... LION does not believe *that* one for a minute.Locomotives/Cabs should have a device that blanks out cell phones at least while the train is in operation. ROAR |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 13 22:59:32 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Zman179 on Sat Sep 13 22:56:03 2008. Heh. Ah, nothing like the 12 lever plan! :) |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Zman179 on Sat Sep 13 23:01:26 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Sep 13 22:56:51 2008. Locomotives/Cabs should have a device that blanks out cell phones at least while the train is in operation.But that could potentially affect vital radio operations. Believe me, threats will work very well. Stipulate to the train crews that anyone caught using a cell phone while operating will be immediately suspended pending termination and those things will disappear like city pay phones. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sat Sep 13 23:07:19 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Sep 13 22:56:51 2008. Locomotives/Cabs should have a device that blanks out cell phones at least while the train is in operation.Train crews use cell phones to communicate with dispatchers in places where radios don't work well enough. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Zman179 on Sat Sep 13 23:09:01 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by chuchubob on Sat Sep 13 23:07:19 2008. Train crews use cell phones to communicate with dispatchers in places where radios don't work well enough.That is true, but the train should be stopped before making the call to downtown. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by chuchubob on Sat Sep 13 23:10:34 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Zman179 on Sat Sep 13 23:09:01 2008. the train should be stopped before making the call to downtown.That's asinine. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 23:12:28 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Zman179 on Sat Sep 13 23:09:01 2008. Why? I don't see the big difference between a cell phone and a radio.But if there is a difference many people are switching to radios that are really "Nextel" type cell/radios. I don't know if that makes a difference one way or the other. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Zman179 on Sat Sep 13 23:15:29 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by chuchubob on Sat Sep 13 23:10:34 2008. No it's not. The rules state that cell phones must not be used while operating. So if you need to use the phone, then you need to stop the train. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Zman179 on Sat Sep 13 23:17:01 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 23:12:28 2008. Why? I don't see the big difference between a cell phone and a radio.Me neither, but rules are rules. Besides, chances are that if you're encountering a problem that the train will be stopped anyway. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 13 23:25:24 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Zman179 on Sat Sep 13 23:17:01 2008. Funny how that works out ... same for the teeyay radios. :) |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Sep 13 23:40:58 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by trainsarefun on Sat Sep 13 21:57:47 2008. I thought one of them zoned out? |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by hhp664 on Sun Sep 14 01:59:21 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Zman179 on Sat Sep 13 23:01:26 2008. I have been on my cell phone while running my trains although to road foreman trying to explain or get help with troubleshooting. But we have cab signals on the corridor as a back up. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Sep 14 02:15:22 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 21:04:19 2008. If you are taking pictures but leaving the engineer and conductor alone to do their jobs, I don't see the harm. |
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Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Sun Sep 14 06:53:30 2008, in response to Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 21:00:44 2008. My word exactly |
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It doesn't matter who the engineer was texting with... |
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Posted by Fine, Howard, and Fine on Sun Sep 14 08:13:28 2008, in response to KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Sep 13 21:01:47 2008. It doesn't matter who the Metrolink engineer was texting with.Thinking of fatal accidents and collisions up and down the east coast, I know of five different incidents where the engineer/operator is known to be on the phone or texting at the time of the incident. In every case, the communications was with friends/girlfriends/family. And in every single case, the authority/rulemakers had banned using cellphones or text messaging from inside the cab. Don't know what to do about it. Make more rules when the rules obviously aren't working? Everybody sees train and bus operators yakking away while driving. Even if they've got a private control cab you can hear them through the partition. |
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Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Sep 14 08:56:10 2008, in response to Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sat Sep 13 20:56:15 2008. First.....yeah she is hot!! ;-DSecond, Metrolink better be ready for some REAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLY heavy lawsuits!! He should have waited till he reached a station stop to do that. Mesed up man, and no matter what, it is sad to hear the loss of a colleague. :-( |
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Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Sep 14 09:00:27 2008, in response to Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sat Sep 13 21:05:10 2008. Not really.....from what the report shows, he (the engineer) was at fault and in the wrong. He should have either sent the message while waiting at the previous station stop, or in the next stop. Irresponsible. And yeah, I have seen my fair share of engineers and motormen on the cell while operating, though not texting but nonetheless distracting, and kinda unnerving. The only thing the railfan shouldn't have done is respond. And the name foamers......lol funny!! I call myself a railfan when off duty, not a foamer, which sounds more like a reference to a rabid animal. :-D |
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Re: It doesn't matter who the engineer was texting with... |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Sep 14 09:28:15 2008, in response to It doesn't matter who the engineer was texting with..., posted by Fine, Howard, and Fine on Sun Sep 14 08:13:28 2008. If you're at work, you're at work. When my wife and I are at work, we do not call each other unless it's very urgent, because it's an an unneeded distraction, and I don't communicate with friends while at work because my job demands and deserves my full attention. |
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Re: It doesn't matter who the engineer was texting with... |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Sep 14 09:29:48 2008, in response to It doesn't matter who the engineer was texting with..., posted by Fine, Howard, and Fine on Sun Sep 14 08:13:28 2008. Well, I guarantee something like these kinds of rules infractions are why Metro-North is toying with the idea of installing cameras in the cabs facing the engineers seat, though it is being fought tooth and nail by both engineers and conductors (I always say if that's what they wanna do, LET THEM....a funny fuck like me will give that camera something to record, like those occasional itchy ass and balls days!! LMAO!! Or when I have that major nose boggle that requires good picking, and I juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust happen to be close to the camera!! LMAO!!And it's not just engineers who do the cell/text thing and get distracted. There is, in particular, this one girl here at MNR, fellow conductor (name remains anonymous) who is infamous for, and has been in trouble already for, being on the cell, with or without Bluetooth, while doing her revenue collections and sweeps, and even texting while doing revenue collections/sweeps, much to the anger and annoyance of other crew members for whom she has to split assigned cars of work with, and she constantly leaves the sharing crew member to the lion's share of the work, and yeah it has happened on some of my trains where I get complaints from the crew, and yeah one has to tell her to pick up the slack and lay off the phone. And plenty of times, there are conductors who are supposed to be paying attention on reverse moves in the yards, or even on the main (names/identities anonymous) who choose to be on the phone too. Me, I do NOT use Bluetooth at all, not even when I drive, much less when on the train, do I use a phone during an attention-sensitive moment. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Sep 14 09:57:08 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Easy on Sat Sep 13 21:04:19 2008. If the engineer chose to message the railfan while operating, on his own choice, what wrong did the railfan commit?? He didn't ask the engineer to unsafely disregard his duty to bullshit on a cell with texts. If the fan was bugging him excessively wanting to know where and when his train and others pass thru, that's a whole other story. I don't think Metrolink will be railfan unfriendly. Besides, their time and energies will be more directed towards the great many lawsuits sure to be coming their way!! I hope they have a huge bank account and an exceptional legal team!! |
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Re: It doesn't matter who the engineer was texting with... |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Sep 14 10:00:22 2008, in response to Re: It doesn't matter who the engineer was texting with..., posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Sep 14 09:29:48 2008. The conductor who slacks off because she's on the phone is making everyone's life harder, but at least she's not endangering anyone's life. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by AlM on Sun Sep 14 10:06:43 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Sep 14 09:57:08 2008. If the engineer chose to message the railfan while operating, on his own choice, what wrong did the railfan commit??Agreed. It's not up to railfans and the general public to know exactly what constitutes a distraction. Railroads make sure the public knows they shouldn't go for a stroll on the tracks, or similar things, but it's up to the railroad employees to behave responsibly. When I was a teenager I asked a NYC subway motorman a question through his open door. He just ignored me. I didn't know any better - no one had ever told me not to do that. And I wasn't expected to know better - the motorman was supposed to know how to deal with me. |
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Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Sep 14 10:08:29 2008, in response to Re: KTLA CONFIRMS: Re: Metrolink engineer texting with railfans, posted by AlM on Sun Sep 14 10:06:43 2008. 100% agreed. |
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Re: It doesn't matter who the engineer was texting with... |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Sep 14 10:09:05 2008, in response to Re: It doesn't matter who the engineer was texting with..., posted by AlM on Sun Sep 14 10:00:22 2008. Yeah the conductor can, when he/she is at the door controls, and not even paying attention enough to know that the engineer either stopped short or overran and pops the doors open with a car or two off the platform, or even the wrong side!! And the people who ride the trains are so wired to go off when the doors open, you would be surprised how someone can fall off not even knowing the car is off the platform.Or how about chatting on the phone so much, they are too preoccupied to know they have split a switch, didn't see and upcoming derail applied, or passed a red.....they endanger their own life and those they work with!!! |
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