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SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train.... |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Jun 12 18:04:15 2008 Due to mechanical problems,1 trains are bypassing the South Ferry Station in both directions.As an alternate, customers are advised to take the R,W ,4 or 5 train making nearby station stops. Please expect delays in service on the 1 train at this time. In addition, due to signal problems at the Bergen Street Station, please expect delays in service on the F trains at this time. ---------------- How are 1 trains bypassing south ferry????? |
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Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train.... |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jun 12 18:07:08 2008, in response to SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Jun 12 18:04:15 2008. If the 1 trains aren't being turned at Rector Street,Maybe they're going around the inner loop at South Ferry |
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Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train.... |
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Posted by bmtstd on Thu Jun 12 18:07:16 2008, in response to SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Jun 12 18:04:15 2008. My guess is the gap fillers are not working - Just a guess |
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Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train.... |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Jun 12 18:14:09 2008, in response to Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jun 12 18:07:08 2008. If they are going around using the inner loop then that would be really interesting from a railfan POV...... |
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Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train.... |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jun 12 18:20:26 2008, in response to Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Jun 12 18:14:09 2008. If they are going thru the inner loop,Rector Street is probably the last stop going downtown and going back into service on the uptown platform. Should be interesting on the downtown platform at Rector because there is no booth there for customers to get a block ticket. |
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Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train.... |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Jun 12 19:17:02 2008, in response to SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Jun 12 18:04:15 2008. Not a good day for our South Ferry... |
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Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train.... |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Thu Jun 12 19:45:01 2008, in response to Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by bmtstd on Thu Jun 12 18:07:16 2008. Thats my guessing too. |
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THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Jun 12 22:57:22 2008, in response to Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jun 12 18:07:08 2008. Maybe they're going around the inner loop at South FerryIt's impossible for a 1 train at Rector Street to use the inner loop of South Ferry to turn around. Look at this track map. It clearly shows that trains from Bowling Green can use either loop track, but trains from Rector Street can only use the outer loop track. |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jun 12 23:03:19 2008, in response to THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Jun 12 22:57:22 2008. haha, pwn3d. |
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Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train.... |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 12 23:04:00 2008, in response to Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jun 12 18:20:26 2008. Duh, doofus.If a train takes the inner loop, it automatically travels to Bowling Green. |
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Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train.... |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 12 23:05:57 2008, in response to SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Jun 12 18:04:15 2008. Due to mechanical problems,1 trains are bypassing the South Ferry Station in both directions.NYCT has no sense of direction, lol. |
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Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train.... |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Jun 12 23:09:29 2008, in response to Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 12 23:05:57 2008. Downtown trains are unable to stop there because (apparently) the gap fillers aren't working.Uptown trains are unable to stop there because Downtown trains are unable to stop there. |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jun 12 23:30:56 2008, in response to THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Jun 12 22:57:22 2008. I thought there were double crossovers before and after South Ferry. |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 12 23:33:11 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jun 12 23:30:56 2008. Um, only simgle crossovers, outer to inner before the SF stations, and inner to outer after leaving SF. |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jun 12 23:34:11 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jun 12 23:30:56 2008. That switch at Rector Street is long gone..There is a right turn out before south Ferry and a left turn out after.. |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jun 12 23:34:55 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 12 23:33:11 2008. It's been a while since I worked steady at Bowling Green. |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jun 12 23:38:13 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jun 12 23:34:11 2008. Like i said, It's been a while since I worked steady at Bowling Green or the neighborhood.If downtown 1 trains can't make it to South Ferry, what happens to them after Franklin Street? |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jun 12 23:41:45 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jun 12 23:38:13 2008. If the Gap fillers cant come out they just go around the loop..Easy as pie my friend.. |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jun 12 23:46:09 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jun 12 23:41:45 2008. So simple it stumped me.I must be more tired than I thought. I thought the train would be rerouted to Brooklyn or turned on the express track at Chambers St. What would customers who want South Ferry supposed to do? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Jun 12 23:53:43 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jun 12 23:46:09 2008. What would customers who want South Ferry supposed to do?Dont want to be mean but... Get off at Rector Street and walk... |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jun 12 23:58:14 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jun 12 23:53:43 2008. You're not being mean.Just gave a simple answer that I'm too tired to have thought of myself. Good night. |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Jun 13 00:08:58 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jun 12 23:58:14 2008. Well i meant mean to those who had to walk...You have a Good Night as well!! |
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Posted by Ken S. on Fri Jun 13 00:14:31 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jun 12 23:46:09 2008. If they're going to catch the SI Ferry, suck up the extra $3 and take the express bus. |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jun 13 07:43:26 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 12 23:33:11 2008. Actually, it's the other way around. Inner to outer before SF, outer to inner after SF. The switches are set up in such a way as to allow trains from Bowling Green to use the station on the outer loop, and then return to Bowling Green. |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jun 13 07:46:02 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by Railman718 on Fri Jun 13 00:08:58 2008. All those Lower Manhattan are so close to each other anyway, so it'd be quite simple to walk from one to another. |
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Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train.... |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 13 07:55:30 2008, in response to SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Jun 12 18:04:15 2008. Very carefully.:) |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Jun 13 09:19:05 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by Railman718 on Fri Jun 13 00:08:58 2008. At least the weather is nice today and (most of) this weekend. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jun 13 09:22:12 2008, in response to SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Jun 12 18:04:15 2008. I would guess they're not stopping. But...in BOTH directions? |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Jun 13 09:24:22 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by Ken S. on Fri Jun 13 00:14:31 2008. Hopefully no one ends up taking the wrong express bus.If tourists can be confused with which Green Line Train goes to Yankee Stadium, they'll really get messed up with the express buses in lower Manhattan. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Jun 13 09:46:42 2008, in response to Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 13 07:55:30 2008. Even when there are no mechanical problems. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Jun 13 09:52:06 2008, in response to Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jun 13 09:22:12 2008. Remember that South Ferry on the 7th Av Line is a one-track loop terminal with one platform: |
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Posted by Red Line to Glenmont on Fri Jun 13 11:41:22 2008, in response to Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 12 23:04:00 2008. Maybe the problem is in the station, not the tracks, so it is just riding by South Ferry without stopping. |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jun 13 11:46:10 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Jun 13 09:24:22 2008. But the express buses don't go anywhere near the Statue of Liberty. |
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Posted by Ken S. on Fri Jun 13 11:52:25 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jun 13 11:46:10 2008. Most of those people are tourists who probably take taxis or Gray Line buses anyway. We were talking about the riders headed to the Staten Island Ferry. |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Jun 13 12:09:16 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jun 13 11:46:10 2008. Lower Manhattan is nowhere near the Statue of Liberty. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Jun 13 12:12:10 2008, in response to Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by Red Line to Glenmont on Fri Jun 13 11:41:22 2008. Due to mechanical problems...It didn't say: Because of a police investigation or Because of a customer accident If you listen to announcements you realise they're hinting at what happened. |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Fri Jun 13 12:13:35 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Jun 13 12:09:16 2008. I remember when they had New Jersey Bell pay telephones at the Statue of Liberty. Area code 201! :-)We're talking the late 60's sometime. Shortly afterward, I recall them changing over to New York City area code 212. |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Jun 13 12:13:55 2008, in response to THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Jun 12 22:57:22 2008. It's impossible for a 1 train at Rector Street to use the inner loop of South Ferry to turn aroun...[because] trains from Rector Street can only use the outer loop track..Actually, it's not impossible, although it is highly impractical. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 13 12:17:10 2008, in response to SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Jun 12 18:04:15 2008. Malfunctioning gap fillers? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Jun 13 12:18:19 2008, in response to Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 13 12:17:10 2008. Probably. |
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Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!! |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jun 13 12:19:25 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Jun 13 12:09:16 2008. When did they move lower Manhattan? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jun 13 12:20:36 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Fri Jun 13 12:13:35 2008. Yeah, but they still get their electricity from NJ. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Jun 13 12:25:12 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jun 13 12:19:25 2008. R36 #9346 was wondering:But the express buses don't go anywhere near the Statue of Liberty. And There are no express buses on the island. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jun 13 12:26:15 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Jun 13 12:25:12 2008. uh huh....... |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Jun 13 14:33:34 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jun 13 07:43:26 2008. That's what I meant to type. 11:30 PM and 17.5 hours of straight awake time put a burden on me last night. |
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Posted by FLASH GORDON on Fri Jun 13 16:09:48 2008, in response to Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Jun 12 23:04:00 2008. Right and the switches only go from the outer loop to the iner oneafter the SF station. Run the one train to 59th and Lex and turn it back south? FLASH GORDON |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Jun 13 16:43:03 2008, in response to Re: THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Jun 13 14:33:34 2008. It happens to the best of us and the rest of us. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Jun 13 21:42:50 2008, in response to Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by trainsarefun on Fri Jun 13 09:52:06 2008. Yes, it's a terminal. It's like saying trains the 42nd Street shuttle will bypass Grand Central in both directions. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jun 14 04:38:44 2008, in response to Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by FLASH GORDON on Fri Jun 13 16:09:48 2008. I think that would be a little tough to do, especially in the rush hour without screwing up the 4/5 trains in a tunnel that is already at capacity (even if you switched the 1 to the local track after Brooklyn Bridge). |
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Keeping old South Ferry station open for the Lexington line after the 1 moves to its new station |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jun 14 04:48:49 2008, in response to Re: SERVICE ALERT south ferry 1 train...., posted by trainsarefun on Fri Jun 13 09:52:06 2008. Yes, but it also shows why I like the idea of keeping the old SF station open after the 1 train moves to its new station, with the old one becoming the terminal for the 5 train when it is not going to Brooklyn, for an extended 6 train during the overnights (when the 5 is not running in Manhattan) and during rush hours (and other times the 5 is running to Brooklyn UNLESS you have the 2/5 swap of trains in one direction each way) a revival of the old shuttle train between SF and Bowling Green that uses the old short platform at BG, which would apparently please many riders of the SI Ferry who apparently do not like walking to BG to get the 4/5. |
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