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Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 10 06:32:11 2011 Amtrak engine burns, delays train in Rotterdam, N.Y.--------------------- Take Pride,
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Jan 10 06:47:36 2011, in response to Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 10 06:32:11 2011. Oh shit! Glad no one was injured at least.your pal, Fred |
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Jan 10 08:05:40 2011, in response to Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 10 06:32:11 2011. HEY... That's No. 70!I wonder if they will fix it. 
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Jan 10 08:37:03 2011, in response to Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 10 06:32:11 2011. Not another one. |
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 10 08:55:05 2011, in response to Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Jan 10 08:37:03 2011. Oh yeah, you know it. |
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Jan 10 13:10:37 2011, in response to Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 10 06:32:11 2011.  Bill Newkirk |
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 10 13:17:00 2011, in response to Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Jan 10 13:10:37 2011. The Empire Builder is right on schedule as it heads east for its next stop in Red WingAmtrak #3 arrives at Flagstaff during a brief lull in the storm that produced record snowfall across northern Arizona. The relief engineer and her passengers wait as Amtrak 19 pulls into Union Station. California Zephyr #5 is about to enter Tunnel 13 as it climbs slowly out of Coldstream Canyon. The winter's snowfall is still holding strong in the distant Sierra mountain range on this beautiful May morning. With the Sierra Mountain Range lurking high above, Amtrak #5 heads West through a s-curve after climbing through Coldstream Canyon. You get the idea... |
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Jan 10 13:36:27 2011, in response to Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 10 13:17:00 2011. Yes, we see....
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by Randyo on Mon Jan 10 13:42:45 2011, in response to Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Jan 10 13:10:37 2011. That's the train I use when I travel to Chicago! |
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by chuchubob on Mon Jan 10 13:54:42 2011, in response to Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Jan 10 13:10:37 2011. Westport, NJ Montreal  Pittsburgh  Fort Worth  Washington, DC 
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 10 14:08:06 2011, in response to Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by chuchubob on Mon Jan 10 13:54:42 2011. The Pittsburgh shot is great. Pittsburgh rules. |
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 10 15:16:51 2011, in response to Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Jan 10 08:05:40 2011. Prolly ... fortunately the outer body is a monocoque and those can be reworked. Kinda worrisome how many fires lately. I remember a friend of mine several years ago who was a mechanic at Rensselaer (he's retired now) told me about the numerous fires they were having back then with oil-soaked air filters (which weren't getting cleaned) and pools of fuel on the floors as a result of cylinder leaks. I'd hate to think that an old, known problem is back once again. :(But 70 and a few of her sisters are going to require extensive rebuilding if they come back at all. |
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Jan 10 15:32:20 2011, in response to Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 10 15:16:51 2011. LION has seen this oil on the floors of BNSF locomotives. Him was told not to step into the engine compartment lest one would slip and fall, perhaps someplace else.LION also knows that RULES require that engines and their compartments be kept CLEAN. (For safety, and to make inspection easier, since any stains or spills would be new and need to be investigated.) Oh well, I guess NYCT/MTA is not the only road with slackers in the cleaning department.
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by seabeachexpress on Mon Jan 10 15:33:08 2011, in response to Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 10 06:32:11 2011. My guess is the HEP gen. got overloaded ( as they seem to do even in cold weather) but this time the circuit breakers for the 4-phase 480 VDC did not trip ( maybe they froze up) . That would lead to a meltdown of the gen. and lots of flames. It would be a miracle if the Beech Grove shops could rebuild her. Most likley they will strip her down for parts , if there is anything left usable. Has anyone spotted one of the P40 rebuilds on the Late-for-sure LTD? |
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by chuchubob on Mon Jan 10 17:07:38 2011, in response to Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by seabeachexpress on Mon Jan 10 15:33:08 2011. Has anyone spotted one of the P40 rebuilds on the Late-for-sure LTD?Yes. train 449 departing Springfield and train 49 waiting to depart Rensselaer last Aug 7  
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Mon Jan 10 17:39:36 2011, in response to Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 10 06:32:11 2011. Great can this happen to my train. |
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 10 17:54:17 2011, in response to Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Jan 10 15:32:20 2011. I'd be willing to bet that the floor was clean when 70 left Chicago. From what I've heard, there's a certain amount of leakage which happens with those GE engines and it's supposedly normal as long as it isn't too much. What I fear is that the AIR filters are what went up - that's happened before and is a maintenance item that is supposedly a PIA for the mechanics to deal with, but MUST be done. I'd be curious as to the details though. |
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Jan 10 18:10:23 2011, in response to Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by North-Easten T/O on Mon Jan 10 17:39:36 2011. In a tunnel?Under a river? and through the woods.
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by seabeachexpress on Mon Jan 10 18:10:46 2011, in response to Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by chuchubob on Mon Jan 10 17:07:38 2011. Thank you sir. nice shot of 821. |
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Jan 10 18:12:02 2011, in response to Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 10 17:54:17 2011. PIA?Suppose somebody didn't do it but signed it off as if they had? What if that had been done all week? BTW: Have you any marshmallows?
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jan 10 18:24:25 2011, in response to Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Jan 10 18:12:02 2011. Hard to say. As to the "PIA" from what I've been told by the guys who do the work, they're hard to get in and out of the unit and in the distant past, sometimes they didn't get done. The guys and gals over at Rensselaer DO the hard work the right way but word is some other shops aren't quite as diligent. Point being though that the air filters do get oil on them and that makes them a critical maintenance item as far as the Gennies go.After reading what seabeach offered, it's quite plausible that his scenario might be what happened given the apparent location of the fire. Either way though, whenever they burn inside the monocoaue, that's major damage no matter what the cause. |
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 10 19:38:14 2011, in response to Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Jan 10 06:32:11 2011. These P40's are proving to be highly flammable of late. That's at least 4 fires in the last year or so (3 Amtrak, one CDOT). |
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 10 20:06:46 2011, in response to Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Jan 10 08:37:03 2011. Now serving in the dining car: |
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Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jan 10 20:13:37 2011, in response to Re: Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited does not crash but does BURN, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jan 10 19:38:14 2011. The amtrak ones have been P42s. |
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