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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Ftgreeneg on Tue Mar 26 17:01:36 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 16:57:14 2019.

Bullshit. I've maintained from the very beginning of posting here this Country's just system is broke. I've maintained that yesterday and I maintain today check the archives. On the other hand whenever a cop get off for shooting an unarmed black kid the same ppl saying trust the legal system and their findings arr bitching about the same system now.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:01:53 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 26 15:32:06 2019.

And I was yelled at for being "partisan" for pointing this out about Al.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 17:02:56 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Ftgreeneg on Tue Mar 26 16:58:10 2019.

Yep. Money talks. That's just how it goes. And you know what? This isn't going to affect our lives at all.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:03:05 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Ftgreeneg on Tue Mar 26 16:58:10 2019.

As a poor white guy...

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Re: This Just In...

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 17:04:34 2019, in response to Re: This Just In..., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 16:48:59 2019.

I posted that before Prosecutor Magats' statement was publicized (or even made - I haven't checked the timing).





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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:04:47 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by WayneJay on Tue Mar 26 15:18:58 2019.

Yes. You mean like Kavanaugh?

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Re: Injustice For Chicago: was Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:06:55 2019, in response to Re: Injustice For Chicago: was Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 16:47:45 2019.

I hope so.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:07:23 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:00:09 2019.

I missed the part where Smollett was proven guilty in a court of law.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:08:13 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 17:02:56 2019.

Maybe not yours, but someone's going to be a victim of a real hate crime and no one will believe him/her/it because Jussie cried wolf.

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Re: This Just In...

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:09:11 2019, in response to Re: This Just In..., posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 17:04:34 2019.

Lol!!!

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:10:31 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:07:23 2019.

Huh? That's exactly the point of the tweet. He was never proven guilty because the SA's office dropped the ball.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:10:59 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 26 15:32:06 2019.

What's funny about Mueller was you were ready to ride his root when you thought that he was going to charge PRESIDENT TRUMP with impeachable offenses. Now that it didn't happen, Mueller is a Republican and your butt hole is puckered. 

One of us here has pointed out that Mueller is a Republican since his investigation started. 

My point is that nobody just started acting like Mueller is a Republican as some form of blame.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:11:13 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:08:13 2019.

Exactly correct. This is why the JayZee types should be all over this. But....they are not.

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Re: Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:11:35 2019, in response to Re: Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 16:53:04 2019.

That's BS. Smollett got off because he was rich and famous.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:13:03 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:07:23 2019.

Lol, this is exactly why I call out leftists. It's astonishing actually, but I've come to realize, it's expected. This is why I have no faith in the left anymore.

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Re: Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:14:10 2019, in response to Re: Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:11:35 2019.

Probably. Except, if the colors were reversed, the left would be all over this. This time? Not so much.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:14:45 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:13:03 2019.

So what are you calling out in my post?

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Ftgreeneg on Tue Mar 26 17:18:08 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:13:03 2019.

LOL. Your reply would hold water if other side wouldn't say the same thing if the situation was reversed. But they have on multiple occasions.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:18:16 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:10:31 2019.

So he's still considered guilty?

In the last couple of days we've seen a guy who's not exonerated considered innocent and another guy who's charges were dropped considered guilty. I don't think it's truth and justice anyone is looking for.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:18:56 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:07:23 2019.

This should have went to trial. For whatever reason this was screwed up.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:20:18 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:18:16 2019.

Yes... The same way OJ was, except, OJ more so because he had his day in court and was found innocent.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 17:23:40 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:08:13 2019.

EVERY crime is a hate crime. I HATE that term!

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Re: This Just In...

Posted by Elkeeper on Tue Mar 26 17:24:32 2019, in response to This Just In..., posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 26 11:23:16 2019.

Chicago justice is a lot like NYC's. "The finest judge (or prosecutor) money can buy!".

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:25:18 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:18:56 2019.

It should have but somebody gave him celebrity or financial privilege. the SA said he didn't feel Smollett was a danger to the community.

There have been some rape cases in the last couple years where the wealthy defendent was found guilty but given a light sentence because "it was his first offense" or he wasn't a danger or some such nonsense. Financial privilege most likely.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 17:26:28 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:10:31 2019.

The same can be said about Zimmerman (he probably could have been proven guilty of manslaughter if the prosecutor hadn't first under-reached and then over-reached).

Prosecutorial mistakes happen. If it's part of life for Zimmerman, it's part of life for Smollett. My feeling is both are equally unfortunate and both run the risk of a future injustice someday.







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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:27:21 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:18:16 2019.

He actually did it, so he's guilty in that sense. Do you consider OJ innocent because he was acquitted of a crime most believe that he actually committed?

Note that jeopardy hasn't attached. A different prosecutor could charge Smollett within the statute of limitations.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:27:27 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:25:18 2019.

Of course, but this also doubles over into racial issues. The nature of the (alleged) crime is worse for that reason.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Ftgreeneg on Tue Mar 26 17:27:27 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:03:05 2019.

Stats say otherwise...

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:28:09 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Ftgreeneg on Tue Mar 26 17:27:27 2019.

No.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:29:05 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:27:21 2019.

What I don't get is the "isn't a danger" crap. He basically admitted it in the end

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:29:47 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 17:23:40 2019.

Whatever the fuck you want to call it.

And no, not every crime is a "hate crime." Not all crimes are based on hatred. One could steal a car because he needs the ride or the money, and not hate anyone.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:38:03 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:27:21 2019.

Most people (myself included) believe OJ is guilty but can't prove it. Smollett the same way.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 17:38:29 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:27:21 2019.

He actually did it, so he's guilty in that sense.

He denies it. You just don't believe him. Neither do I.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:38:35 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 17:26:28 2019.

Zimmerman is worse because of double jeopardy.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:38:37 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 11:49:01 2019.



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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:39:08 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:27:27 2019.

The crime is racial but the treatment of it is not.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 17:39:18 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:29:47 2019.

Every crime is equally heinous, no matter what the motive is.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:40:31 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 17:39:18 2019.

Well yeah all crime is bad but it's not all about hating the victim. Spider-Pig's stealing a car example is good.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 17:40:44 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:29:05 2019.

He means Smollett wasn't charged with a violent crime.

It's a dubious justification, obviously. Does he drop charges against every low income defendant who isn't charged with a violent crime?



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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:41:01 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:07:23 2019.

It was never given an opportunity to go to trial.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:41:47 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 17:40:44 2019.

Probably not dropped but lesser charges. I don't know as this is the first time I've heard of this prosecutor.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:42:24 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:38:37 2019.

Total BS

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:42:36 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 17:39:18 2019.

Heinousness doesn't imply hatred and in also: WTF?!?

Every crime is not equally heinous. There's a reason why crimes are differently classified and incur different punishments.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 17:42:37 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:38:37 2019.

Um, she didn't make the decision. She recused herself from the case. Blame middle aged white guy Joseph Magats for this decision.



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Re: Injustice For Chicago: was Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:43:00 2019, in response to Re: Injustice For Chicago: was Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 16:34:56 2019.

WOW!!!!!!!!!! IAWTLP! You are batting a thousand.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:43:17 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:41:01 2019.

Or for a guilty plea before trial.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:43:30 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:41:01 2019.

Yeah and nobody testified under oath against him. He says he didn't do it and we dont' believe him. We don't get the satisfaction of a jury trial to test him.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:44:04 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:38:37 2019.

FALSE!

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:44:27 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:43:30 2019.

"We don't get the satisfaction of a jury trial to test him." And that doesn't bother you?

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:45:14 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:44:04 2019.

OK, I know it was too good to be true. You're now batting 900.

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