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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:45:28 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:29:47 2019.

Except this is particularly bad....claiming a hate crime that never happened. Using race this way is almost worse than the hate crime it was claiming to be.
And it hurts victims of real racial hate crimes

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:45:50 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:44:27 2019.

Not deeply but yes it does bother me. He should have stood trial but since he got a lucky break, he cheated the jailer.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:45:52 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 17:42:37 2019.

You live in Chicago?

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:46:29 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:45:28 2019.

Yeah that's the harm that was done more than anything.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 17:46:37 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:45:14 2019.

Are you really as ignorant as TDS, that you won't understand how recusal works?



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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:46:46 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:45:50 2019.

OK, It looks like we are both sorta on the same page.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:47:12 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:45:14 2019.

I am only disagreeing that this is as a result of racism or that Foxx is responsible. She recused herself.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:47:13 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:43:17 2019.

Good point.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:47:41 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:46:46 2019.

Yes. We differ in the reason his charges were dropped. I say it was financial/celebrity privilege and not racial.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 17:48:07 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:45:28 2019.

IAWTP. The prosecutor needed to make Smollett plead guilty to something to discourage others from falsely crying wolf.



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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:48:15 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:43:30 2019.

Or at the very least a hearing where he pleads guilty and allocutes.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:48:26 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:47:12 2019.

Allegedly recused herself. I suspect she is behind it.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:48:40 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:47:41 2019.

IAWTP

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:49:00 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 17:48:07 2019.

Both you and Fred get credit for at least saying that.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:49:20 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 17:46:37 2019.

And as usual, you're batting zero.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Ftgreeneg on Tue Mar 26 17:49:52 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:45:28 2019.

"And it hurts victims of real racial hate crimes."

That I agree with.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:50:21 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:47:41 2019.

I could partially go along with that.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:50:40 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:48:26 2019.

So you are accusing her of unethical conduct?

If she were my DA*, I'd vote against her in the next election.

*I live in a state where the equivalent office is called "District Attorney."

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:50:49 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:47:41 2019.

and I agree with that too. My only problem is the people like JZ would still be pushing the white part of it which would not be true in that case either.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:52:28 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:50:40 2019.

So New York State or City does not have a district attorney?

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 17:53:04 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:48:26 2019.

That is a very serious accusation.



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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 17:53:29 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:40:31 2019.

Yeah, but I hate the idea behind the whole "hate crime" idea that some victims are worth more than others.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:54:03 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 17:53:04 2019.

Yes it is. Chicago is more corrupt than New York.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:54:18 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 17:53:29 2019.

iawtlp

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:59:28 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 17:53:29 2019.

I don't like when they throw "hate crime" on top of a simple assault just because somebody is something or other.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 18:01:43 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:52:28 2019.

No. Each county has its own District Attorney. So each of the boroughs has its own District Attorney. This is similar to Illinois where each county has its own SA.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 18:02:25 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 17:53:29 2019.

I don't like hate crime laws, but that's not the reason.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 18:07:31 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 18:01:43 2019.

OK, I understand now. Each borough is a separate county. Where Chicago is in Cook County, which also includes nearby suburbs.

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Re: This Just In...

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 26 18:14:12 2019, in response to Re: This Just In..., posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 16:50:48 2019.

No. Why don't I see this kind of outrage here from the righties, when a white person goes free under similarly upsetting circumstances involving a Black victim?

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 26 18:17:43 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:11:13 2019.

Why don't you trust the legal system?

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Re: Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 26 18:21:24 2019, in response to Re: Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 17:11:35 2019.

An argument that's not true for Cosby, Wesley Snipes, Lauryn Hill, Rae Carruth, Lil' Kim, Martha Stewart, Rod Blagogevich, or Jared Fogle.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 18:26:15 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 26 18:17:43 2019.

Chris and I can complain that the prosecutors dropped the ball on this one.

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Re: Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 18:27:06 2019, in response to Re: Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 26 18:21:24 2019.

I don't know what some of those people did, but most of them were guilty of way more serious crimes.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by WayneJay on Tue Mar 26 18:36:40 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Mar 26 17:45:28 2019.

Very true!

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Re: Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 18:42:27 2019, in response to Re: Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 18:27:06 2019.

Martha Stewart fared poorly for someone rich and famous. All she did was lie to some government investigators about a possible insider trading event for which she was never criminally charged, and yet she did jail time.



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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 26 18:42:36 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Mar 26 18:26:15 2019.

Then it's equally true that prosecutors "dropped the ball" in Garner, and in King, right?

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 18:45:07 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 26 18:17:43 2019.

Same reason not to trust the way it handled George Zimmerman. First they treated him like he was totally innocent, then they responded to public pressure and charged him with a crime they couldn't prove.





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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 18:46:30 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 17:47:41 2019.

I agree

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by AlM on Tue Mar 26 18:47:45 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 26 18:42:36 2019.

The evidence against Pantaleone was probably considerably weaker than the evidence against Smollett.

And in particular, the current prosecutor admitted there was no problem with the evidence. That's asking to be second guessed.




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Re: This Just In...

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 18:52:10 2019, in response to Re: This Just In..., posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 26 18:14:12 2019.

Um...This isn't about race, WHY make it into a racial issue?

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Mar 26 18:53:27 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 26 18:42:36 2019.

Oh boy.....

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Re: This Just In...

Posted by cortelyounext on Tue Mar 26 18:55:34 2019, in response to This Just In..., posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 26 11:23:16 2019.

JayZeeBMT is fending off attacks from just about every direction with aplomb which means self-confidence or assurance especially when in a demanding situation. It is like watching a symphony or ballet where every argument is lucid and logical. Said individual is overwhelming his opponents with a steady barrage of counter-battery fire that is both accurate and devastating. It is not over yet not by a long shot but one Nathan James, who is a published playwright, noted literati, a beacon of hope for the Greater Tri-State Atlantic LGBTQQIAOOI community, and somewhat of a big deal on the New York social scene, is the leader in the clubhouse. That much, my friends, is something we can all agree on.


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Re: This Just In...

Posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 18:57:27 2019, in response to Re: This Just In..., posted by cortelyounext on Tue Mar 26 18:55:34 2019.

Until the Jayman shows up.

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Re: This Just In...

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 26 19:02:48 2019, in response to Re: This Just In..., posted by Fred G on Tue Mar 26 18:57:27 2019.

😂😂😂

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Re: This Just In...

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Mar 26 19:03:18 2019, in response to Re: This Just In..., posted by cortelyounext on Tue Mar 26 18:55:34 2019.

I am humbly grateful for your eloquent show of support!

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 26 19:08:21 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 17:49:20 2019.

The putz is a zero.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 19:09:15 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 26 19:08:21 2019.

Who? Aim or Jayzero?

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 26 19:11:32 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 19:09:15 2019.

Alm is the bigger putz but little zero is also no slouch

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 19:15:30 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 11:49:01 2019.



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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 19:16:38 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Tue Mar 26 19:11:32 2019.

They are both putzes. But Jayzero is a bigger one.

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