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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 28 14:08:14 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 28 13:52:17 2019.

I'm still laughing over the Soros thing. And the Michelle Obama indirect connection.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 28 14:16:17 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 28 14:08:14 2019.

JUSSIE SMOLLETT KILLED JFK!

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by AlM on Thu Mar 28 14:29:43 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 28 14:16:17 2019.

No, that was Ted Cruz.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Ftgreeneg on Thu Mar 28 14:43:12 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Mar 28 14:00:24 2019.

"God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

'For as long as' is the key words. I guess he also wants to MAGA err.. or MAG.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 28 15:28:52 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 28 14:16:17 2019.

Ha oh lort

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Mar 28 15:29:36 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 28 14:16:17 2019.

The moon is made of cheese.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Mar 28 15:30:54 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Ftgreeneg on Thu Mar 28 14:43:12 2019.

And of course you agree with him.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by AlM on Thu Mar 28 15:38:11 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Mar 28 15:30:54 2019.

Are you OK with America having treated people as less than humans?

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Mar 28 15:43:03 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 28 15:38:11 2019.

I will not respond to you until you change your fuckin handle.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Ftgreeneg on Thu Mar 28 15:44:06 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 28 15:38:11 2019.

+100

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by AlM on Thu Mar 28 16:03:18 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Mar 28 15:43:03 2019.

Sorry. Toothbrush handles don't generally engage in sexual intercourse.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Fred G on Thu Mar 28 16:14:06 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by AlM on Thu Mar 28 16:03:18 2019.

Ha

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Re: Black Privilege

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Mar 28 16:23:14 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Mar 26 11:49:01 2019.



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Re: Black Privilege

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 28 17:06:45 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Mar 28 16:23:14 2019.

CONTEXT

In any case, what is your point? That blacks can be racist too? I agree.

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Re: Black Privilege

Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Mar 28 17:37:03 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 28 17:06:45 2019.

Good.

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Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 28 21:10:53 2019, in response to Re: Black Privilege Jussie Smollet criminal case dropped by state attorney, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Mar 28 13:42:46 2019.

BUMP

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City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 28 22:40:03 2019, in response to This Just In..., posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Mar 26 11:23:16 2019.

CBS Chicago

Jussie Smollett Case: City Bills ‘Empire’ Actor For $130,000 In Police Costs, Mayor Rahm Emanuel Tells Trump ‘Stay Out Of This’

March 28, 2019 at 5:41 pm
The City of Chicago’s Law Department has billed “Empire” actor Jussie Smollett for the costs of the Chicago Police Department investigation that determined he was lying about being the victim of a hate crime in January.

In a letter sent to Smollett titled “Re: Repayment of Investigation Costs for False Police Report,” the city’s Corporation Counsel writes that it requires “immediate payment of the $130,106.15 expended on overtime hours in the investigation of this matter.”

The letter goes on to say if the amount is not paid in a timely manner the Department of Law may prosecute Smollett for making a false statement.

“A violation of the false statement ordinance imposes a fine of not less than $500.00 and a maximum of $1,000.00, plus up to three times the amount of damages the City sustains as a result of the violation,” the letter states.

“Given that he doesn’t feel any sense of contrition and remorse, my recommendation is when he writes the check, in the memo section, he can put the word ‘I’m accountable for the hoax,’” Emanuel said at an unrelated event on Thursday.
"My recommendation is when he writes the check, in the memo section he can put the word, I'm 'accountable' for the hoax." @ChicagosMayor Rahm Emanuel says Jussie Smollett "doesn't feel any sense of contrition and remorse" after charges against him dropped. pic.twitter.com/Bv1ttslmUO

— CBS Chicago (@cbschicago) March 28, 2019
Emanuel also responded to President Donald Trump’s claim on Twitter that the FBI and Justice Department will review the Smollett case, after Cook County prosecutors dropped the charges against Smollett this week.

Although Emanuel himself has criticized that decision, saying police had solid evidence Smollett was guilty, the mayor said Trump should butt out.

“My recommendation is the president go to Opening Day baseball, sit on the sideline, stay out of this. You created a toxic environment,” Emanuel said.

The mayor pointed to President Trump’s comments about a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Va., where a counter protester was killed. The president said there were “very fine people on both sides” of the protests.

“The only reason Jussie Smollett thought he could take advantage of a hoax about a hate crime is from the environment, the toxic environment that Donald Trump created. This is a president who drew a moral equivalency between people who are trying to perpetuate bigotry and those who are trying to fight bigotry,” Emanuel said. “President Trump should literally take his politics, move it aside. He’s created a toxic environment, now he’s created a toxic, vicious cycle.”

The unusual move by prosecutors to drop the charges without a plea deal allowed Smollett’s attorneys to get the case sealed. If he wants to get his case formally expunged, his lawyers would have to file a motion with Presiding Cook County Criminal Court Judge LeRoy Martin. If and when that happens, the records in the case would be briefly unsealed, and anyone could file an objection to expunging the records.

The Cook County State’s Attorney’s office volunteered to notify the media if and when Smollett’s attorneys file a motion to expunge the case, so they would have an opportunity to object. Martin said it typically takes 70 days to close out an expungement request, and the law allows a 60-day period for objections to be filed.
STATEMENT FROM JUSSIE SMOLLETT'S ATTORNEY, PATRICIA BROWN HOLMES

"We support the court files being preserved. We have not and will not file a motion for destruction of any records in this case."

— Charlie De Mar (@CharlieDeMar) March 28, 2019
In a statement Thursday afternoon, Smollett’s attorneys said they “have not and will not file a motion for destruction of any records in this case.”

“We support the court files being preserved,” attorney Patricia Brown Holmes stated in an email.

Smollett has maintained his innocence.

The actor, who is black and openly gay, had told police he was attacked as he was walking home around 2 a.m. on Jan. 29. He claimed two masked men — one of them also wearing a red hat — shouted racist and homophobic slurs as they beat him, put a noose around his neck, and poured a chemical on him.

Police said, in reality, Smollett had paid the two brothers $3,500 to stage the attack, because he was upset with his salary on “Empire.”

Emanuel said Smollett owes the city an apology, not just for the financial costs of the case, but for the damage to the city’s reputation.

“I think we’ve got to be clear about this, that there was an action here, in my view, that is a hoax,” Emanuel said. “The grand jury believed that. They were shown a sliver of evidence, and they came to a conclusion.”

“He has cost not only the city financially, that’s just one,” he added. “Also, a sense of the wrong he’s done by taking advantage of our values as a welcoming city that welcomes people of all walks of life and all backgrounds to feel comfortable in the city. So when he does pay the city back, on just purely what the taxpayers have fronted, in that memo section he can write ‘I’m sorry, and I’m accountable for what I’ve done.’”

Prosecutors have said, although they agreed to drop charges, they do not believe Smollett is innocent. They have said they dropped the case because Smollett had no previous violent criminal record, agreed to forfeit his $10,000 bail, and performed 16 hours of community service.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Mar 29 03:40:21 2019, in response to City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 28 22:40:03 2019.

And of course he blames President Trump for this. Although I agree with what he's saying (I question his sincerity). He still is one of the world's kapo self hating Jews.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 29 03:48:07 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Mar 29 03:40:21 2019.

I was just going to say the exact same thing that you did, almost word-for-word!

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 05:45:41 2019, in response to City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Mar 28 22:40:03 2019.

OK, so when are they going to start billing all those BBQ Beckys and Pool Patrol Peters who waste police time and resources investigating Black people who are doing ordinary, everyday, legal activities. Nobody told these people to call the cops for no reason...

InB4, "why are you bringing race into it"?

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 29 05:53:37 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 05:45:41 2019.

The culpable mental state.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 06:00:59 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 29 05:53:37 2019.

And? All those Beckys knew full well what they were doing when they called the cops on completely innocent Black people. Why aren't police departments all over the country billing them?

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 29 06:25:46 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 06:00:59 2019.

Were you there? Did the "Kanishas" out and out admit that they made it up? You asked a question, I answered it.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 06:34:22 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 29 06:25:46 2019.

Calling the police on people who are doing completely lawful activities is, by definition, falsely reporting an incident.

What possible legitimate reason would there be, for example, to call the police on a firefighter in full uniform, driving a marked fire engine, who is performing his job?

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 29 07:51:42 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 05:45:41 2019.

You compare that to Smollett's hate hoax? SMH.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 08:05:49 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 29 07:51:42 2019.

Why not? If the ADA had a strong case, he should have taken Smollett to trial. When a Becky calls the police on some Black person doing nothing wrong, she injures not only the person in question, but the general public, because a car has to come off 911 to deal with it. That's essentially what Johnson is saying in the Smollett case.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by AlM on Fri Mar 29 08:22:04 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 29 07:51:42 2019.

No sense of proportion here on OTChat.

What Smollett did is obviously way worse than a single instance of calling the cops on someone for swimming while black, etc.

But on the other hand, many celebrities (most of them white, but some black, like Cosby and R Kelly) have gotten deferential treatment from prosecutors for crimes way more serious than Smollett's, and yet the prosecutors have attracted a fraction of the outrage that Magats and Foxx have received here.

The sheer number of posts here excoriating Foxx is amazing. Yeah, she did something really stupid, and probably politically influenced. Yeah, you already said so 8 times.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Mar 29 08:26:54 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 29 03:48:07 2019.

Great minds think alike.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Mar 29 08:28:19 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 05:45:41 2019.

Most based on a false narrative.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 29 08:35:23 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 06:34:22 2019.

You would have to ask the person who called 911 that question. And, to play Devil's Advocate, in the example you provide, how do we know who called 911? It could have been a black person, a white person, and Asian person, a Hispanic person. Based on my personal experience, black people call 911 on each other the most by far.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by Dave on Fri Mar 29 10:01:25 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 08:05:49 2019.

What makes you think the ADA didn't have a strong case?

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Mar 29 10:06:13 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by Dave on Fri Mar 29 10:01:25 2019.

In JayZero logic, not bringing the case against an individual of color means it was not a strong case, but when ADA decides not to prosecute an alleged crime involving a police officer it is the ADA sweeping it under the rug.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 29 10:20:44 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 08:05:49 2019.

The investigations in such cases are shorter and less intensive than what the CPD needed to do with Smollett, so your example is way out of proportion.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 10:27:07 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 29 10:20:44 2019.

In the San Francisco firefighter case, three city agencies got involved, and it took them a week to close the investigation. I'll bet that cost a nice piece of change, too.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Mar 29 10:39:51 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Mar 29 10:06:13 2019.

Thank you for that.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 10:48:07 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by mtk52983 on Fri Mar 29 10:06:13 2019.

When there is sharp, clear video of a cop killing a Black person, and the DA declined to prosecute (see: Garner, where even the ME ruled his death a homicide by strangulation), that's a clear example of sweeping the case under the rug.

The Jussie case, OTOH, was a strong case for the grand jury, but the police disemboweled it by mishandling the evidence. A trial would have been a mess.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 29 10:50:24 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 10:48:07 2019.

The DA did not decline to prosecute. He convened a grand jury.

And the video proves nothing. Pantaleo took down a perp who was resisting arrest. If he died in the process, that's his own fucking fault.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Mar 29 10:51:09 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 10:48:07 2019.

LOL. The old Garner defense again? Your spredos must be too tight.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Mar 29 10:51:56 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 29 10:50:24 2019.

Exactly, and the world is a better place for it.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by Fred G on Fri Mar 29 11:12:46 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 08:05:49 2019.

I disagree about strength of the case. Kim Foxx said they could have gotten a conviction.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 29 11:40:50 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 10:48:07 2019.

Do you like being wrong all the time, the Emmy declared his death the result of being a fatbody. But back to those videos, when you see a video of someone getting killed by the police, black or white, it's because that person was in the commission of a felony when said event happened. Wait a minute?! Now you saying that the police ruined the evidence? Who told you this, The Great Kazoo?

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 11:47:35 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 29 11:40:50 2019.

Wrong. The ME ruled that Garner died of "manual compression of the chest and airway". Why did I have to keep repeating this?

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 11:48:12 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 29 11:40:50 2019.

Oh, and selling loosies is a C summons, not a felony.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 29 11:54:15 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 11:47:35 2019.

Because he resisted arrest and the police needed to use force to take him down.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 29 11:55:49 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 11:48:12 2019.

An arrestable offense nevertheless.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 29 11:58:49 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 11:47:35 2019.

Exactly! Not asphyxiation. It's about time you got on board. That's why there was no True Bill

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 29 11:59:58 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 29 11:58:49 2019.

That's true, Bill!

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 12:29:53 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Mar 29 11:58:49 2019.

Uh, manual compression of the airway is asphyxiation.

Those of us old enough to have carried demand valve masks on our trucks understand this.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 29 12:31:53 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 12:29:53 2019.

And? Garner injured by Pantaleo's legitimate takedown maneuver because he was in poor health. That's his own fucking fault.

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Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Mar 29 12:37:47 2019, in response to Re: City of Chicago Law Department hits Smollett with $130K bill in police costs, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Mar 29 12:31:53 2019.

I disagree. Being taken down is one thing; having the living life choked out of you is another.

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