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Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 13:29:15 2015, in response to Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 28 13:26:25 2015.

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oh oh

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Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 28 13:34:41 2015, in response to Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 28 13:26:25 2015.

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And also, don't play games with the time. You KNOW it was 11 PM. Go back and look at the posts.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 28 13:35:32 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 13:23:23 2015.

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One just has to READ the shit he types. Even Stevie Wonder can see that he's full of shit.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 28 13:38:47 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 28 13:35:32 2015.

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ok well i dont see that but ok

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Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?

Posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Mar 28 13:49:19 2015, in response to Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 28 13:34:41 2015.

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Will both of u grow up already...

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Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Mar 28 13:56:30 2015, in response to Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?, posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Mar 28 13:49:19 2015.

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If i'm not there, start without me! LOL!

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Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Mar 28 14:02:30 2015, in response to Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?, posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 10:06:57 2015.

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I demand a #summit

SMAZZA wussed out of one at Rizzo's on Steinway.

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Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 28 14:15:04 2015, in response to Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?, posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Mar 28 13:49:19 2015.

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I'm not taking this seriously. It's just that the shit he posts is SO out there, it's hard NOT to keep my mouth shut.

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Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?

Posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Mar 28 14:55:07 2015, in response to Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Mar 28 13:56:30 2015.

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Please start w/out me lol

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Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?

Posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Mar 28 14:59:37 2015, in response to Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 28 14:15:04 2015.

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Good

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 28 22:32:30 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Fri Mar 27 10:11:20 2015.

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Ridin' my dick again, I see!

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Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 03:20:03 2015, in response to Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 28 13:26:25 2015.

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I was there.

Proff or it didn't happen.

I told you that I would be.

Actually, you ran away from this thread. I asked you to confirm several times and you never responded. Then, after the fact, you insist you were totally there— although it's just as likely you avoided the place just in case I showed up anyway.

JUST because I wasn't on the Internet Thursday at 10 AM...

I posted many times asking for confirmation which you never gave me. You even replied to many of those posts, so you can't pretend you never saw them.

The problem is that you chickened out— the minute you learned I was serious, you practically wet yourself.

... Thursday at 10 AM because I was sleeping, because I have WORK...

Your work involves sleeping at 10 AM?

...doesn't mean that you can weasel your way out of it.

Oh, no. You chickened out— you told me you didn't want to meet, and you can't weasel out by pretending that it was somehow my idea.

Cluck cluck cluck cluck. CLUCK cluck cluck cluck.

This is you:


Portrait of Bill Brooklyn courtesy of Ernst Vikne. This post is licensed CC-BY-SA 2.0

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Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 03:23:05 2015, in response to Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 28 13:34:41 2015.

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Cluck cluck, cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck. You KNOW it was 11 PM. Go back and look at the posts.

I went back and looked at the posts.

You were saying?

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Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 03:23:51 2015, in response to Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?, posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Mar 28 13:49:19 2015.

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Spoilsport. :þ

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Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 03:24:35 2015, in response to Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?, posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Mar 28 13:49:19 2015.

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I'm not taking this seriously. It's just that the shit he posts is SO out there, it's hard NOT to keep replying— I have SIWOTI Syndrome. :(

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Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 03:26:30 2015, in response to Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 28 14:15:04 2015.

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Cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck. Cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck CLUCK cluck cluck, cluck cluck CLUCK cluck cluck cluck cluck cluck.

Aw, the white supremacist was too cowardly to meet in person. :(

A pity. I'd have loved to see if you were willing to say that shit in person, but it looks like the answer is no.

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Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 03:27:03 2015, in response to Re: Bill Brooklyn: 9 PM Meet Or Not?, posted by FtGreeneG on Sat Mar 28 14:59:37 2015.

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Have you ever actually read anything he posted? The guy is certifiably insane.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 03:32:36 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Mar 28 09:07:04 2015.

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On the contrary— I gave them ample opportunity to retract or clarify their absurd statements and they doubled down every time. If Dave admits that he's just doing some performing art thing or that his offensive posts are satirical, I'd go right back to assuming he's a basically decent person (unless he proves otherwise again).

I said that I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt— not that I ignore the plain facts once all such doubt has been dispelled.

Dig up the immigration thread— GP Chris is barely even literate, and I was willing to treat him like an adult up until he started screaming: "IF YOU OPPOSE ANY LAW YOU THINK ALL LAWS ARE INVALID AND CONTRADICTING ME MEANS YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE!"

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 03:40:49 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by AlM on Sat Mar 28 09:42:03 2015.

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Not to mention that he reserves the right to himself to say things and not mean them literally.

Um, everyone on the planet has the right to use non-literal language.

Metaphors, satire, sarcasm, synecdoches, idioms, and general figures of speech have been part of language and culture since we had a language and a culture.

Most people understand language— a few people have trouble with the complexities (often due to conditions like autism) and many of them seem to congregate here (because perhaps the stereotype of the autistic railfan has a bit of truth to it). Are you on the spectrum, AlM?

So if he can defend things he's written on the grounds that he didn't mean them literally, how can he possibly legitimately attack Dave for anything he's posted?

This doesn't actually mean anything, so I suppose it's another glaring logical failure on your part.

It looks like you're trying to say something along the lines of: Because I'm not capable of understanding complexity, I interpret everything at its most literal face value. Since the idea of a statement having a non-literal and yet plainly understood meaning is beyond my comprehension, I assume that Nilet is claiming his posts have no plain meaning and therefore he has no basis for attacking Dave.

However, as noted, I tend to assume the best of people. So would you perhaps like to clarify what you were trying to say?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 29 03:43:26 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 03:40:49 2015.

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Um,

LOL!!!!!!! Perfect way to start a reply to AlM!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 03:47:17 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 28 22:32:30 2015.

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Would you please stop telling me about your fantasies? It's a little disturbing and a lot pathetic— I'm not into men! Especially not sniveling little cowards who talk shit on the internet and then scream and run when you suggest meeting in person.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 03:48:18 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 29 03:43:26 2015.

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I'm sure linguists have written articles about the condescending um.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 03:54:35 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Mar 29 03:43:26 2015.

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By the way, in my country there's a rough equivalent to the condescending um— if you need to explain the obvious to someone who doesn't get it, you preface your explanation with the words: "Ees amek..."

The problem is, those words literally mean "I say," so a literal translation of those condescending statements will make you sound like Foghorn Leghorn. Which admittedly is condescending, if not in the way you probably wanted.

Note that the "ees amek" phrase is only used when speaking to people of the same rank as you— when speaking to lower-ranked people, you'd say: "San en kefela..." (literally, "for the beginners/trainees") and when speaking to higher-ranked people you'd mind your fucking manners and be deferential no matter how stupid they are— don't worry, stupid people tend not to be higher-ranked for long.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 03:56:41 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 28 13:22:27 2015.

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EVERYTHING he says about me is a lie.

Like what? Name one lie I told about you.

Note: You have already long ago admitted you're a white supremacist, so don't bother trying to claim that's a "lie." You'd just make your own dishonesty manifestly obvious.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 04:03:47 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 28 13:35:32 2015.

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One just has to READ the shit he types.

My typical response to anyone who tries to claim you might have any redeeming qualities.

Even Stevie Wonder can see that he's full of shit.

Name one thing I've ever said that is "full of shit."

Note that I said "that ...IS full of shit," not "...that Bill Brooklyn thinks is full of shit," as we have already established that your near-complete inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality makes your opinions worthless.

And while you're at it, why exactly should Stevie Wonder have a harder time than anyone else in figuring out that you're full of shit? I don't exactly know him, but statistically, most people would be able to figure it out from a handful of your posts.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is White

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 04:14:19 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is White, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 28 13:27:30 2015.

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He's brown with non-European features.

So? You're probably brown and definitely not European and you claim you're white. I'm brown and I'm not European and you have no trouble admitting I'm white.

HOW can he be white?

Because society says he's white.

That's what the term means. The "white race" is a social construct— it only exists to the extent that people say (and act like) it exists and it means whatever people say (and act like) it means.

Society says Zimmerman is white, therefore Zimmerman is white.

Note that when I say Zimmerman is white, I'm using the actual definition of "white" not the made-up Bill Brooklyn definition where "white" is some mythical race of people that don't trace their ancestry back to Africa. I've got bad news in that regard— Piltdown Man was a hoax.

I guess you also think that BHO is white as well?

Why on Earth would you think that?

Oh, because you don't understand what the terms "black" and "white" mean. That turned out to be an easy question.

OK, back to basics.

Define "race."

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 04:14:59 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Mar 28 13:22:58 2015.

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Then you need to get your eyes checked.

(Citation still needed, by the way.)

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 29 05:53:33 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Sat Mar 28 02:00:57 2015.

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Traditionally, a blockade refers to water (and maybe air) because water has been traditionally the way to move large amounts of goods for long distances. What you described would be a blockade of the ports of Mexico, cutting off a major mode of traffic. However, it can be argued that it's not a complete blockade of Mexico, because the border with Guatemala is still open. By definition though, a blockade is not restricted to just air or water - it can be on land as well. The Israeli Navy is blockading Gaza's ports, and the air force is blockading Gaza's airspace, but consider that Israel's ultimate goal is to completely blockade Gaza. That means including the efforts on land, including the near complete closing of the border crossings on the Israeli side, and with Egypt's help, the closing of the border with Egypt.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 06:10:09 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 29 05:53:33 2015.

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However, it can be argued that it's not a complete blockade of Mexico, because the border with Guatemala is still open.

No, it may not be a complete blockade, but it's still a blockade and likely illegal under international law.

Moreover, if Guatemala closed its border with Mexico for reasons based on Mexican/Guatemalan politics unrelated to America's actions, it would be absurd to say that Guatemala and America are both blockading Mexico, let alone that they're both equally responsible for Mexico's predicament.

The air and the seas are traditionally considered international territory— one country preventing another country from accessing them is fundamentally different from a country restricting its own borders or its own territory. You'd probably have difficulty naming any other country that I cannot enter without getting permission from a second country.

By definition though, a blockade is not restricted to just air or water - it can be on land as well.

It can be, but since there's very little land that's not considered part of an existing country, it's comparatively rare for there to be a blockade of a land border outside of wars where boundaries are disputed.

For what it's worth, if America blocked access to the Mexican/Guatemalan border, that'd be worse than the naval blockade.

The Israeli Navy is blockading Gaza's ports, and the air force is blockading Gaza's airspace, but consider that Israel's ultimate goal is to completely blockade Gaza. That means including the efforts on land, including the near complete closing of the border crossings on the Israeli side, and with Egypt's help, the closing of the border with Egypt.

Yes, Israel wants to see Gaza completely sealed off— essentially, an open-air prison. However, it's unfair to say that Egypt and Israel are equally responsible for its predicament as Egypt has merely closed its own borders and has not restricted travel or transport between Gaza and international territory.

In fact, Egypt closing its border with Gaza at Israel's behest actually lends credence to the idea that Israel is entirely responsible for the blockade.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by 3-9 on Sun Mar 29 06:44:04 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 06:10:09 2015.

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Moreover, if Guatemala closed its border with Mexico for reasons based on Mexican/Guatemalan politics unrelated to America's actions, it would be absurd to say that Guatemala and America are both blockading Mexico, let alone that they're both equally responsible for Mexico's predicament.

Actually it would not be completely absurd. By itself, Guatemala's action would not be considered a blockade. However, by timing it to coincide with America's blockade, Guatemala's action can considered helping America's blockade, if not cooperating with it.

However, it's unfair to say that Egypt and Israel are equally responsible for its predicament as Egypt has merely closed its own borders and has not restricted travel or transport between Gaza and international territory.

Yes, I agree, Egypt and Israel are not equally responsible for the blockade of Gaza. Israel has put in the most effort by far.

In fact, Egypt closing its border with Gaza at Israel's behest actually lends credence to the idea that Israel is entirely responsible for the blockade.

Egypt has most likely not said they are doing at Israel's or the US's behest. Their recent problems with militants in Sinai is a pretty good reason. Be that as it may, their timing makes it look like they are cooperating with Israel on blockading Gaza - there's no doubt that it helps Israel's blockade.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 29 07:40:29 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 03:32:36 2015.

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I gave ample opportunity to you, bingbong and salaamallah to clarify or retract your/their absurd statements and you/they doubled down every time (or in the case of salaamallah stuck his fingers in his ears and fell asleep). Moreover absurd != disagrees with you. Dig up the George Zimmerman thread where bingbong said that juries can make up the law or her rants that the first amendment says there can never be a public display of religion. Or how about the Ferguson threads where anybody who did not blindly agree with salaamallah that Michael Brown was 0% at fault even after the evidence showed otherwise wanted to see all blacks murdered and were supporters of racist pigs

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 29 07:42:40 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 29 07:40:29 2015.

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wtf ?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 29 08:29:18 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 29 07:42:40 2015.

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So I see you continue to refuse to repudiate your bigotry as it pertains to Ferguson

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 29 08:33:55 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 29 08:29:18 2015.

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bullshit
you are a liar

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 29 08:47:38 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 29 08:33:55 2015.

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Prove it. All of the cursing in the world is not proof

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Mar 29 08:55:45 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 29 08:47:38 2015.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 11:33:04 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 29 08:29:18 2015.

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What bigotry?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 29 11:36:21 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 11:33:04 2015.

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His hatred of white people and police officers

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 11:38:47 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 29 07:40:29 2015.

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I gave ample opportunity to you, bingbong and salaamallah to clarify or retract your/their absurd statements and you/they doubled down every time

I can't speak for Salaam or Bingbong, but I haven't made any absurd statements.

People claim I did, but none of them have ever managed to offer a link. Funny thing, that.

Moreover absurd != disagrees with you.

I never said it did.

Dig up the George Zimmerman thread where bingbong said that juries can make up the law...

You want me to prove your point for you?

The closest anyone can offer was a link to a post where Bingbong appears to explain the concept of jury nullification— juries can and occasionally have rendered verdicts not based on the facts or law and accusing such a jury of "making up the law" isn't entirely unfair— they haven't passed any legislation, but they took the law into their own hands and people who take the law into their own hands can be fairly accused of "making up the law."

... or her rants that the first amendment says there can never be a public display of religion.

She said this where?

Given how her statements regarding jury nullification were so thoroughly misinterpreted, I find it far more likely that she merely explained the Establishment Clause and was willfully misinterpreted in that regard as well.

Or how about the Ferguson threads where anybody who did not blindly agree with salaamallah that Michael Brown was 0% at fault even after the evidence showed otherwise wanted to see all blacks murdered...

I can't speak to what Salaam said or believes, but there were people in those threads who did want to see all black people murdered so let's not act as though the accusation came entirely out of left field.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 11:41:08 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 29 11:36:21 2015.

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Source?

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 11:43:35 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 29 08:29:18 2015.

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Salaam is approximately the only black guy on OTChat right now and you think he is a bigot with regards to Ferguson?

I think you're a bit confused.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 29 11:51:21 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 11:41:08 2015.

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Accusing all white people of stealing his land. Calling police officers "racist pigs." Celebrating those convicted of murdering police officers (Joanne Chesimard)

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 29 11:52:26 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 11:43:35 2015.

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When he lumps all whites or all police officers into a group yes he is a bigot

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by AlM on Sun Mar 29 12:23:37 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 29 11:36:21 2015.

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He's never said he hates white people. His God has declared them as a lesser class of human, but he's never said he hates them.



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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 29 12:39:14 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 11:38:47 2015.

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The closest anyone can offer was a link to a post where Bingbong appears to explain the concept of jury nullification— juries can and occasionally have rendered verdicts not based on the facts or law and accusing such a jury of "making up the law" isn't entirely unfair— they haven't passed any legislation, but they took the law into their own hands and people who take the law into their own hands can be fairly accused of "making up the law."

She called it precedent. That implies she believes that jury nullification makes new law. It doesn't.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dand124 on Sun Mar 29 12:44:02 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Mar 29 12:39:14 2015.

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And I believe jury nullification can only be used to acquit a defendant not convict one; if a judge found out jury convicted a defendant while believing him to be innocent of charges he would throw out the verdict.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dand124 on Sun Mar 29 12:46:39 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 11:38:47 2015.

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here you go

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 13:15:33 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 29 11:51:21 2015.

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Those are additional claims, not sources.

Four unsourced and unsubstantiated claims do not add up to one valid claim.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 13:18:35 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by mtk52983 on Sun Mar 29 11:52:26 2015.

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Not if the "lumping" is based on actual shared similarities.

All white people benefit from white privilege, and it's not bigotry to point that out. Not all white people approve of said privilege or try to promote it, but many do.

All cops are subject to the same institutional conditions which lead to widespread corruption and malfeasance. Not all cops commit crimes, but they're all given the same incentive to.

More to the point, you are complaining that a member of an oppressed minority is "bigoted" against his own oppressors, which is not a valid complaint.

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Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG

Posted by Dand124 on Sun Mar 29 13:19:23 2015, in response to Re: George Zimmerman Is WRONG, posted by Nilet on Sun Mar 29 13:15:33 2015.

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Are you going to force us to start a salaamy of terror thread?

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