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Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 2 18:09:57 2014, in response to With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri May 2 18:06:15 2014. Republicans killed it in the Senate, ain't happening. Penny is safe. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri May 2 18:16:20 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 2 18:09:57 2014. Thus why I said "try again"... |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri May 2 18:19:02 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 2 18:09:57 2014. Actually, when was that last bill voted down?The penny is a tiny but ever-present example of government waste in favor of special interest groups... |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri May 2 18:41:45 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri May 2 18:19:02 2014. Yesterday or the day before. Truly heinous of the repulicans, IMO. Anyone working full time should earn enough to provide a bare-bones living. Minimum wages should be tied to the cost of living in states or regions within states. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 2 18:48:57 2014, in response to With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri May 2 18:06:15 2014. They dont need it in Canada, they dont need it here. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 2 18:57:36 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 2 18:48:57 2014. We are in rare agreement. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 2 19:03:14 2014, in response to With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri May 2 18:06:15 2014. Once the minimum wage becomes 10.10Never happen. |
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Posted by Allan on Fri May 2 19:43:47 2014, in response to With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri May 2 18:06:15 2014. If that happened then no one would be able to "offer a penny for one's thoughts".[OK - who is the wise guy who said - "do that and you'd have change coming"?] |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri May 2 21:04:38 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by bingbong on Fri May 2 18:41:45 2014. Minimum wages should be tied to the cost of living in states or regions within states.I agree on this point. Most *current* minimum wage jobs are ones that cannot be outsourced, so differing minimum wages across regions shouldn't cause companies to suddenly start "shopping around" for cheaper areas. Especially since, if several companies move to an area with the lowest minimum wage, the cost of living would rise and thus so would the minimum :). |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 2 21:18:18 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 2 18:57:36 2014. Mazol tov. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 2 22:54:48 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri May 2 21:04:38 2014. Best part about those moves is that the wages there are so depressed, nobody's buying because they just can't afford it. Even Henry Ford figured that one out. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat May 3 03:01:59 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 2 22:54:48 2014. most of today's GOP are that bright...as you most likely can see from their supporters here. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 3 08:32:22 2014, in response to With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri May 2 18:06:15 2014. The mimimum wage is not becoming $10.10 ... |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sat May 3 08:36:15 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 3 08:32:22 2014. Yeah but the US has 5 more aircraft carriers than it needs. nice shot, Nazi AmeriKKKa |
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Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny... |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat May 3 10:36:14 2014, in response to With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri May 2 18:06:15 2014. " If the merchant dealing with pennies wastes you more than 4 seconds in line, both they and you have lost more productivity than the penny is worth."This is an interesting thought considering that nonsense everyone does in front of me wasting a lot more than 4 seconds. I think we need to eliminate change altogether and round to the nearest dollar. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat May 3 10:44:20 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by RockParkMan on Sat May 3 08:36:15 2014. "than it needs"another interesting thought. But then again, I didn't vote for him. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 3 15:25:53 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by orange blossom special on Sat May 3 10:36:14 2014. Sure, and let the Fed win in its quest to destroy the dollar. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat May 3 20:41:52 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by RockParkMan on Sat May 3 08:36:15 2014. Of course you know more than our admirals, who disagree with you. Smooth move, Exlax.But let's assume we chose to retire 5 carriers. Carriers have a significant disposal cost. The eight-reactor Enterprise, now in the early stages of a multiyear disposal process, will likely cost more than $1.1 billion to ultimately dispose of. Nimitz-class carriers have only two reactors and could cost less to dispose of, but the bill still will be significant and, with inflation, would likely exceed the Big E’s cost. Even laying up the carriers in mothballs will entail major costs. Reactors, once shut down for a significant time, cannot be restarted due to changes in their metallurgy, so the ships cannot be completely shut down and maintained in reserve. Rather, the reactors would be set to a minimum level and the ships kept at a secure facility, like an active naval base. The Navy already has a significant backlog of seven decommissioned conventional carriers to get rid of, and the nukes would likely sit for some years before actually going away. Meanwhile, China's Navy wants a flotilla of four carriers by 2020. IOW, you have no idea what you're talking about but keep flappin' yer guns because it's what you do best. |
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Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny... |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat May 3 23:16:05 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 3 08:32:22 2014. Fair enough, it seemed like one of those things that was a sure thing.Either way, down with the penny!!! |
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Posted by 3-9 on Sun May 4 04:13:15 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by Dave on Sat May 3 20:41:52 2014. I heard that the Big E can't be used for a museum. This would be the second carrier named Enterprise that we're going to fail to preserve, even though it played an important role. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sun May 4 13:19:25 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 3 15:25:53 2014. I'm sure there's some "kids" out there that would be fine with never seeing a receipt and just having everything taken digitally out of their bank accounts(or pre-paid cards in their case). So many folks trust the big corporations with paying their bills for them and losing their rights anyway and against checks. |
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With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 15:04:59 2014, in response to With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri May 2 18:06:15 2014. CNBC
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Posted by bingbong on Fri May 30 15:23:06 2014, in response to With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 15:04:59 2014. If this business doesn't think its employees should receive a decent legal wage and are unwilling to make necessary compromises to stay in business, then they shouldn't be in business.The world can live with one or three less fast food chains. If the 1% wasn't so greedy as to make it impossible to live on the existing minimum wage, then there'd be no need to raise it. One cannot face rising costs for necessities like energy, rent and food without additional money coming in. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 15:25:33 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by bingbong on Fri May 30 15:23:06 2014. That has nothing to do with greed. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri May 30 15:30:11 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 15:25:33 2014. Yes it does. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 15:32:10 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 15:25:33 2014. How so? Greed is wanting it all for yourself and no one else for the most part. If business owners do not want to share in the wealth to their employees....you don't see that as a form of GREED? maybe you view as a "misunderstand" between owner and worker? eh? that the owner have wealth and the worker gets pennies for his/her toil. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri May 30 15:40:57 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by bingbong on Fri May 30 15:23:06 2014. When regulation makes it harder and harder to make profit with employees slowly will hire less and less and automate. You don't need the cashiers and order takers with new technology. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri May 30 15:42:49 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by Allan on Fri May 2 19:43:47 2014. So give him a nickle for his thoughts. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 15:53:49 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri May 30 15:40:57 2014. "When regulation makes it harder and harder to make profit with employees slowly will hire less and less and automate. You don't need the cashiers and order takers with new technology."Past and present.....    |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 15:55:32 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri May 30 15:40:57 2014. Or just go out of business. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 15:59:01 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 15:55:32 2014. The weak will not survive and others will......that's called capitalism. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 16:45:57 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 15:32:10 2014. Business owners are under no obligation to "share the wealth" with anyone. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 16:46:11 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by bingbong on Fri May 30 15:30:11 2014. No, it doesn't. |
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Re: With the higher minimum wage, failed businesses are closing. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 30 16:47:22 2014, in response to With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 15:04:59 2014. If a business can't afford the cost of labour, then it closes. That's how capitalism works— the successful businesses thrive and grow while the failed businesses shut down.Communists like you believe that the government's responsibility is to keep every business afloat and make sure every business can earn a profit no matter how badly run or unsustainable it is, but that's a recipe for disaster. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 30 16:48:08 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 16:45:57 2014. No, but they're obliged to pay their employees for their labour. Slavery is illegal. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 16:52:06 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 16:45:57 2014. "Business owners are under no obligation to "share the wealth" with anyone." = ECONOMIC SLAVERYI AM SO CERTAIN YOU WOULD EAT YOUR WORDS UP IN A SECOND IF YOU HAD TO RAISE A FAMILY ON MINIMUM WAGES. SINCE YOU HAVEN'T WALKED IN THOSE SHOES YET.....I'D ADVISE YOU TO TREAD LIGHTLY ON THIS DISCUSSION. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 16:54:49 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Nilet on Fri May 30 16:48:08 2014. iawtp.......he would never understand because he has never walked in the shoes of a poor man .....ever. To raise a family on $7.50/hr in NYC is a CRIME. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 16:55:05 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Nilet on Fri May 30 16:48:08 2014. This is completely irrelevant to my post. But in any event, no one is obligated to pay their employees for their labor and unpaid labor is not slavery. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 16:55:16 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 16:46:11 2014. Yes it does. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 16:56:28 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 16:52:06 2014. No, I wouldn't. Way to go off on an unrelated tangent. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 16:56:53 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 16:55:16 2014. No one asked you, idiot. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 30 17:09:08 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 16:55:05 2014. Srsly? You might want to look up what "employee" means, for a start. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri May 30 17:14:32 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 16:56:28 2014. It's a perfectly related tangent. When work does not provide the resources to live, one thinks of other means to do so. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 17:17:46 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Nilet on Fri May 30 17:09:08 2014. Then your post makes no sense as a slave is not an employee. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 17:18:29 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by bingbong on Fri May 30 17:14:32 2014. Yes, but that doesn't mean that business owners are under any obligation to "share the wealth." |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri May 30 17:20:41 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 17:18:29 2014. If they want to staff their operations, yes they do. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 17:24:24 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 16:55:05 2014. "no one is obligated to pay their employees for their labor"Aren't there STATE and FEDERAL laws that state otherwise? |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 30 17:24:26 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 17:17:46 2014. Try reading it again. It makes perfect sense. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 30 17:25:35 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 17:24:24 2014. Yeah, but that's communism. :D |
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