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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 17:25:58 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 16:56:28 2014. That's because you DARE NOT TOUCH the discussion...I know your types......you're running away from the discussion at hand. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 17:27:32 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 16:56:53 2014. Awww.....did I touch a nerve in that jellyfish body of yours? eh? I bet I did for once. |
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I work in fast food and I'm not a teenager |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 17:38:25 2014, in response to With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri May 2 18:06:15 2014. From CNN.COM:I work in fast food and I'm not a teenager By Patrick M. Sheridan @CNNMoney May 30, 2014: 8:13 AM ET This is the face of today's fast food workers -- 70% of whom are over the age of 20, nearly 40% have children and a third of them have spent some time in college, according to U.S. census data. It wasn't always this way. In 1979, teenagers held 26% of all low-wage jobs, while adults aged 25-64 made up less than half of such workers, according to the Center for Economic and Policy Research, which analyzed the low wage workforce over a 30-year span. Today, only 12% of low paying jobs are held by teenagers, while adults make up 60% of them. Also, only 20% of such workers had attended some college in 1979. Today, it's 33%. In essence, people working at a McDonald's (MCD, Fortune 500), Burger King (BKW) or Wendy's (WEN) are older and more educated, but earning some of the lowest wages in the economy. Related: Workers willing to be arrested for $15 minimum wage They look more and more like Dre Finley, who earns $8.78 an hour at Arby's in Tampa, Fla. He is 24, has a five-year-old daughter and another child on the way. Finley also holds an associates degree from a community college. "Some customers think you're stupid because you're behind the counter, but I have an education," said Finley. And Finley is not alone in not being able to convert his degree to a better-paying job. Job choices have become limited -- 44% of American jobs created in the past four years have been in low wage industries like fast food, according to the National Employment Labor Project, a liberal labor rights advocacy group. "There's a classic mismatch. Fast-food jobs don't require high degrees," said Christopher Flynn, an economics professor at New York University. A key argument behind the latest wave of strikes to raise wages to $15 an hour is that fast food workers these days are no longer just teenagers looking for pocket change. They are mothers and fathers struggling to raise children on wages that are too low, in most cases below poverty level. Research also shows that fast food companies haven't shared their profits equally among their workers. While the lowest paid have not seen a raise in a long time, the industry's top management are not only being paid handsomely but have given themselves hefty raises. Public policy group Demos says CEO compensation in the industry just since 2000 quadrupled to $24 million, while average fast food worker's wage only increased 0.3%. Fast food CEOs also make 1,000 times more than the average worker in the industry. "The idea that you can work hard and play by the rules and get ahead is disappearing for a large number of American workers," said Catherine Ruetschlin, an analyst at Demos. "As for the American Dream, it's not as easy as people think to leverage into upward mobility from low wage jobs." Tanika Smith, a 25-year-old with a college degree, says her $8.75 hourly wage has barely budged since she started seven years ago at a McDonald's in Chicago. "I never imagined working at a fast food place with a B.A. I imagined I'd be working downtown at a law firm making major bucks," says Smith, who hopes to earn a master's degree and aspires to be a judge. "The people I work with now are not comfortable doing what they are doing. It's not what they want - but that's where the jobs are," Smith says. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 17:58:12 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by bingbong on Fri May 30 17:20:41 2014. Nope. They're only under an obligation to pay whatever the minimum wage is or whatever the market will bear, whichever is higher. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 17:59:02 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 17:25:58 2014. Nope. You are with your appeal to pity. |
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Re: I work in fast food and I'm not a teenager |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 30 17:59:54 2014, in response to I work in fast food and I'm not a teenager, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 17:38:25 2014. And what do you blame for this? |
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Posted by Easy on Fri May 30 18:00:04 2014, in response to I work in fast food and I'm not a teenager, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 17:38:25 2014. Thanks to democrats and republicans and business encouraging illegal immigration. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 30 18:01:27 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 2 18:09:57 2014. You and I need to talk. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 30 18:02:15 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 17:58:12 2014. Ah, so you support the increase in the minimum wage, then. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 30 18:03:27 2014, in response to Re: I work in fast food and I'm not a teenager, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 30 17:59:54 2014. Politicians for failing to raise the minimum wage.Bankers for crashing the economy. Billionaires for stealing money. Take your pick. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 30 18:05:51 2014, in response to Re: I work in fast food and I'm not a teenager, posted by Nilet on Fri May 30 18:03:27 2014. Did you ever work at a fast food place when you were a teenager? Or ever. And btw, the answer is none of the above. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 30 18:06:24 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, we should try again to eliminate the penny..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 2 18:09:57 2014. You and I need to talk. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 30 18:06:25 2014, in response to I work in fast food and I'm not a teenager, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 17:38:25 2014. And what do you blame for this? |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri May 30 18:06:49 2014, in response to Re: I work in fast food and I'm not a teenager, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 30 18:05:51 2014. It's actually all of the above, along with outrageous executive salaries/bonuses. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:15:47 2014, in response to Re: I work in fast food and I'm not a teenager, posted by Easy on Fri May 30 18:00:04 2014. Three ways of saying "liberal", there. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:18:05 2014, in response to I work in fast food and I'm not a teenager, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 17:38:25 2014. These fast-food workers would do well to not back the policies that have led to their current situation(s), never mind policies that will lead to them having no jobs. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 30 18:18:28 2014, in response to Re: I work in fast food and I'm not a teenager, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 30 18:05:51 2014. I know, you'd probably blame black people because when they won civil rights, it upset Magic Racist God who cursed the economy with being contracted in a manner that had nothing to do with the pillaging your favourite politicians are doing. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 30 18:19:41 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:18:05 2014. So you think that McDonalds is going to close because they have to spend a slightly less negligible percentage of their revenue on labour?You really are a communist, aren't you? |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri May 30 18:22:06 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:15:47 2014. Did it ever dawn on ou that this is NOT the twelfth century? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 18:24:05 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:18:05 2014. "These fast-food workers would do well to not back the policies that have led to their current situation(s), never mind policies that will lead to them having no jobs. "And what policies are those? you want the government to give corporate welfare in the form of tax-write offs? they pay nada in return for middle-income jobs? you think really happens? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 18:25:06 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by bingbong on Fri May 30 18:22:06 2014. The "light bulb" has yet to turn on up there for Olog :) |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 18:26:37 2014, in response to Re: I work in fast food and I'm not a teenager, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 30 18:06:25 2014. Not enough middle-income jobs for college graduates in the professional field. Most of these jobs have been eliminated or have gone oversees. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri May 30 18:26:53 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 18:25:06 2014. Obviously. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 18:27:43 2014, in response to Re: I work in fast food and I'm not a teenager, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 30 18:05:51 2014. "Did you ever work at a fast food place when you were a teenager?"We're not talking about teenagers....stupid.....we are focusing on ADULTS here. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 18:28:26 2014, in response to Re: I work in fast food and I'm not a teenager, posted by bingbong on Fri May 30 18:06:49 2014. The Golden parachutes.......reward them all...even for all the mistakes they make. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 18:31:05 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 17:59:02 2014. I don't seek your pity or anyone elses. Your still running away from the discussion...but that's OK if it is really a struggle for you to discuss openly. Ridicule all you want....but it won't get you far on the bus in Brooklyn. |
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Re: With the higher minimum wage, failed businesses are closing. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Fri May 30 18:42:51 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, failed businesses are closing., posted by Nilet on Fri May 30 16:47:22 2014. Olog is a National Socialist, NOT a communist. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri May 30 18:44:07 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Nilet on Fri May 30 18:19:41 2014. So you think that McDonalds is going to close because they have to spend a slightly less negligible percentage of their revenue on labour?Someone who knows a lot more about the industry than you thinks so |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:44:37 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, failed businesses are closing., posted by Nilet on Fri May 30 16:47:22 2014. Wow. More total idiocy for a Luch "w1n". A "failed business" is one that gets replaced by something that works, dummy. Government interference causing businesses to fold up is government interference, not business failure—ask the railroads, which you clearly hate. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:45:10 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, failed businesses are closing., posted by RockParkMan on Fri May 30 18:42:51 2014. National socialism was not the US free market, rocKKKparKKKnazi. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:45:51 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Dave on Fri May 30 18:44:07 2014. The dopes here have no concept of trying to reinvest a single-digit profit margin. |
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Re: With the higher minimum wage, failed businesses are closing. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 30 18:45:51 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, failed businesses are closing., posted by RockParkMan on Fri May 30 18:42:51 2014. Same thing. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:46:49 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, failed businesses are closing., posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 30 18:45:51 2014. You forgot to mention that "olog" is neither. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:48:03 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 16:52:06 2014. You're an idiot. How can you "share" a single-digit profit margin "equally"?? What's left over to reinvest to keep the business going?? |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Fri May 30 18:50:04 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing., posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:45:10 2014. "Free" market= NAZISM. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 18:51:44 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:48:03 2014. "What's left over to reinvest to keep the business going??"I see now......reinvest and keep wages so damn low that even the workers can even eat at the place were they work cause they can't afford it. Or better yet....at any other restaurant, fast-food or otherwise. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:52:23 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing., posted by RockParkMan on Fri May 30 18:50:04 2014. Wrong again, rocKKKparKKKnazi. Nazism = corporate socialism. FDR's destruction of the free market system in the USA was forestalled by WWII, when we had to go fight the National Socialists. The railroads helped win WWII—and after WWII, the liberals in DC destroyed the railroads. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 30 18:53:23 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing., posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:46:49 2014. Sorry. Olog is neither. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:53:37 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 18:51:44 2014. You're an idiot. When you have a single-digit profit margin, you can't pay workers over a certain level. It never was meant to be a lifetime job. What the hell is wrong with you? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:54:32 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing., posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 30 18:53:23 2014. They don't get that the way things are headed, the only way to keep fast food jobs going will be to have the federal government take them over. And even then, they won't be affordable. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Fri May 30 18:55:40 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Dave on Fri May 30 18:44:07 2014. Some scumbag CEO who pays 10% of the taxes he should*. G-d DAMN YOU and G-d DAMN TexASS. Give it back to its RIGHTFUL OWNER, Mexico.*and 30% of that is WASTED on "Defense" |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri May 30 18:56:23 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:52:23 2014. You mean GM destroyed the railroads. The high profit military vehicle biz dried up after WW2. Bus manufacturing was planned to fill that void. So they lobbied, and of course got everything they wanted ...... |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri May 30 18:57:27 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:53:37 2014. Well, it's become one. Where are all the high paying jobs people have trained for??? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 19:03:33 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:52:23 2014. "....the liberals in DC destroyed the railroads."Wow....those Libs must of had ALOT of stock in the automobile industry and the OIL industry to go ALL OUT and kill the railroads. Yes.....the government taxed the railroads to death and other restrictions too. But how do you know it was ALL liberals? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 19:04:17 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by bingbong on Fri May 30 18:56:23 2014. Corporation owners = a win for the Republicans |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri May 30 19:06:05 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 30 18:53:37 2014. "It never was meant to be a lifetime job. What the hell is wrong with you? "GET OUT OF THE FUCKIN BUNKER IN PA AND SEE WHAT THE ECONOMY HAS BECOME! YOU THE BIG DOPE THERE IS FOR YOU SIR....ARE IN EXTREME DENIAL OF THE SITUATION AT HAND HERE. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 30 19:42:57 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 15:25:33 2014. iawtp |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 20:55:14 2014, in response to Re: I work in fast food and I'm not a teenager, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 30 18:05:51 2014. It's ALL of the above! |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri May 30 21:05:38 2014, in response to Re: I work in fast food and I'm not a teenager, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 20:55:14 2014. OK what's missing? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 30 21:09:28 2014, in response to Re: With the higher minimum wage, restaurants are closing, posted by Nilet on Fri May 30 18:02:15 2014. Absolutely! I just don't think that it's greed that prevents the raising of wages. The people need to get what is rightfully there's through their government. Unfortunately our government works on the principle of "one dollar one vote." |
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