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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 5 03:21:47 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Nov 4 21:39:27 2012. I don't have money to gamble on Romney because of Obama's policies.if it's such a sure thing as you say, you don't need to have money. You borrow it. Just think of the returns. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 5 03:21:47 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Nov 4 21:39:27 2012. I don't have money to gamble on Romney because of Obama's policies.if it's such a sure thing as you say, you don't need to have money. You borrow it. Just think of the returns. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 5 03:23:18 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 5 03:11:00 2012. That boy is *so* far up shit's creek with his party, they'll pump out the Meadowlands before they send him a dinghy. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Nov 5 03:24:37 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 5 03:16:03 2012. Yeah, I was hoping Larry would get his power back on last Monday and then deliberately ditch this place until Wednesday. I'm just SO tired of all the shit. :(Gotta put a few people on "rope around the neck and kick out the chair" watch here now. DAMN you Unca Larry! Heh. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 5 05:08:52 2012, in response to Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Nov 4 21:04:23 2012. No, Obama got with the program early. Bush had to be shamed into caring.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Nov 5 08:28:31 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 5 05:08:52 2012. Welcome back, Fred. Hope you fared reasonably well during Sandy. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Nov 5 08:31:01 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 5 03:21:47 2012. Exactly. If it's a sure thing, it's not gambling. It's taking candy from a docile baby. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Nov 5 08:32:46 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Nov 5 08:28:31 2012. Thanks, I thankfully got off easy this time :)your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 5 08:41:53 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by Train Dude on Sun Nov 4 21:16:04 2012. Sorry i disagree i was watching a lot of this chit on TV Obama got on point with the program..That "If anybody tries to give you state folks and crap on the phone CALL ME personally" was spot on. The First Place that got a FEMA van from what i seen was Staten Island... |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 5 10:36:37 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 5 08:41:53 2012. Sorry but I have to disagree with you. Once obie was gone, so were the cameras and the help has dried to a trickle. Great campaign foto-op but I'd say FEMA is doing the Katrina Waltz again, this time without the trailers. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 10:45:06 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by bingbong on Sun Nov 4 21:35:19 2012. I don't believe anyone in areas that were hit think this was handled well. While you are comfortably sitting on your couch, there is a lot of suffering here on Long Island and in New Jersey. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 10:46:08 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Nov 4 22:01:54 2012. Go to the South Shore of Long Island, Riverhead, or Costal New Jersey and ask all the people here if this was "just a little wind and rain". |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 10:48:22 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 5 10:36:37 2012. You're not in New Jersey. Do you know exactly what is happening on the ground there? Do you even know what FEMA does? You wouldn't be saying that if you did. Your homeowners insurance gets ypur claim. From there, FEMA can fill gaps with loans and grants. They most work with localities on infrastructure rebuilding and first responders. They are not driving around with trucks full of money.Nor are they doing trailers. They're putting people up in hotels until claims are processed and rebuilding is completed. From what I hear, people are satisfied with how this is going. It's the whiners like you that have little or no damage beyond several days in the dark that are making themselves look bad. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 10:51:00 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 10:45:06 2012. The people involved are suffering in hotels as temporary housing. They have food. This is what a crisis is like. It will take a year or more to rebuild. The only whiners I hear are those that can't get gasoline......there's a power failure, what do they expect? |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 10:53:50 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 10:46:08 2012. Don't think for a moment that redzoners care one iota about it. The republicans are looking to thwart the funding for recovery and rebuilding. That even includes King (R-NY). |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 5 11:03:46 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 10:48:22 2012. I'm a lot closer to Staten Island than you are. I have friends there who's house was destroyed. That's a lot closer to the issue than you are. Not interested in your opinions. The facts speak for themselves. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 5 11:06:32 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 10:51:00 2012. "The only whiners I hear are those that can't get gasoline."Sort of like when you find there's no swill in your trough? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 11:19:37 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 10:51:00 2012. The problem is not the no power at the gas stations, but rather, the media caused a panic. Most of the gas stations have power around here, just no gas. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 11:20:10 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 10:53:50 2012. Even in a time of crisis you are a partisan hack. Unbelievable. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 11:21:14 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 10:48:22 2012. I know people that lost their homes. I know people that lost everything. No one is interested in your usual partisan rhetoric. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 5 11:22:50 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by AlM on Mon Nov 5 08:31:01 2012. Excellent way of making that old axiom more accurate. Remember, what doesn't kill you will probably make you weaker and lighting often strikes twice. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 5 11:24:08 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by SMAZ on Mon Nov 5 03:21:47 2012. Republicans don't do math. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 11:30:43 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 11:19:37 2012. That could have a lot to do with downed trees making roads impassable. If they can't make delivery, the stations run out.It takes about 2 hours per tree to clear it (statistic provided by National Grid) and remove any wires from it, which are a hazard WRT opening roads. You know that, you said you cleared 5 trees after the storm. Port of Brooklyn was closed much of the week. That's about the only way to get gas to LI that doesn't involve accessing a bridge or tunnel, both of which were unavailable most of the week. This is a crisis one has to be patient, improvise and STOP WHINING!!! You guys are getting back on your feet faster than typical, and you don't have the decency to comprehend how much effort is being made on your behalf. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 11:36:05 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 5 11:03:46 2012. Then they should get in touch with FEMA, who is on the island, get arrangements for temporary housing, file their claims and wait for rebuilding funds. At least they're OK. Help is available to them, but they have to pursue it. Nobody helps those that won't help themselves.What do they expect a new house tomorrow? That doesn't happen. Takes a year. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 11:40:09 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 11:30:43 2012. That could have a lot to do with downed trees making roads impassable. If they can't make delivery, the stations run out.The roads are not impassible, and have not been. One thing I can say is that most roads (the ones not flooded) had the trees taken away pretty quick. It takes about 2 hours per tree to clear it (statistic provided by National Grid) and remove any wires from it, which are a hazard WRT opening roads. You know that, you said you cleared 5 trees after the storm. Yes, but the local towns and villages have done a fairly decent job with that by Tuesday already on main roads, and Wednesday and Thursday most small roads were open. There aren't gas stations on these small aforementioned roads. That's about the ONLY bright thing I can say, the local town has been good with the debris and tree removal. I put my tree debris out on Tuesday and Wednesday, it was piled up 7 feet high, and across the whole front of the house (as well as neighbors) and it was all gone by Thursday. THAT was impressive to me. Port of Brooklyn was closed much of the week. That's about the only way to get gas to LI that doesn't involve accessing a bridge or tunnel, both of which were unavailable most of the week. Port Jefferson Harbor has been open, tankers go there and has a pipeline to a facility in Holbrook/Holtsville. This is a crisis one has to be patient, improvise and STOP WHINING!!! WHERE have I been whining? I only responded to your USUAL partisan rhetoric, which doesn't apparently even end in a time of crisis. Shame on you. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 11:40:19 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 11:20:10 2012. Facts are facts. They tried to do the same with victims of Irene. Given their record, there's no reason to expect this time to be any different. That's called insanity. Maybe you ought to rethink who you vote for tomorrow. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 11:43:24 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 11:40:19 2012. You just reinforced who I am NOT voting for. The F'in whining Democrats like you. Thank you for yet again, showing me WHY I hate hacks on the left. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 11:43:55 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 11:40:09 2012. You are treating the gas shortage, which is a supply/delivery issue as if it's a partisan political issue directly caused by the President's policies. It is NOT. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 11:47:42 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 11:43:55 2012. ????????????I never mentioned the president. You even mentioned FALSE information in your post which I didn't even call you out on, you said Long Island needs bridges tunnels to get gas, and you didn't even mention the tankers that go to Port Jefferson Harbor and it gets pipelined to Holbrook/Holtsville facility. Again you haven't a clue what you are talking about. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 5 12:04:36 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by Train Dude on Mon Nov 5 10:36:37 2012. Looks like we aren't going to see eye to eye on this not a problem .I know folks who live on Staten Island as well the help is there. These things take time nothing will happen overnight. Btw the govt will be redoing the flats at least they will get it right I'm amazed they was able to last this long looking at those pictures. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 12:54:04 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 11:43:24 2012. You only stand to lose in going the other way. Unfortunately, being stupid is not against the law. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 12:56:47 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 11:47:42 2012. So then why isn't there plenty of gasoline? If that's all true and the port was functioning throughout, there should be PLENTY of gas on LI and no reason to complain?You're omitting some important facts here or your rap would hold. |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 13:09:42 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 11:47:42 2012. Could use some proof of harbor status history. Can't find any. Your argument is a fail. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 13:25:42 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 12:54:04 2012. LOL. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 13:29:02 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 12:56:47 2012. It had to do with navigation safety, NONE of it has anything to do with the bridges or tunnels you claimed "Long Island needs". It seems most comes by barge/pipeline. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 13:30:11 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by bingbong on Mon Nov 5 13:09:42 2012. http://www.governor.ny.gov/press/11032012gasshortageupdate |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 13:30:52 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 13:30:11 2012. It doesn't come over "bridges or tunnels", you were talking out of your ass as usual. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Nov 5 14:17:25 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 11:47:42 2012. "............... you didn't even mention the tankers that go to Port Jefferson Harbor and it gets pipelined to Holbrook/Holtsville facility"DO YOU HAVE PROOF THAT THERE IS CURRENTLY POWER TO THOSE FACILITIES? I MEAN IT WOULD BE STUPID TO SEND SHIPS THERE IF THERE IS NO POWER TO UNLOAD GAS THERE......PLEASE LET US KNOW AT YOUR CONVENIENCE.... |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Nov 5 14:25:35 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 11:40:09 2012. "The roads are not impassible, and have not been. One thing I can say is that most roads (the ones not flooded) had the trees taken away pretty quick."WHAT ROADSWAYS ARE YOU REFERRING TO IN YOUR ARGUMENT? PLEASE IDENTIFY THOSE ROADWAYS AT YOUR CONVENIENCE ...THANKS "Yes, but the local towns and villages have done a fairly decent job with that by Tuesday already on main roads, and Wednesday and Thursday most small roads were open. There aren't gas stations on these small aforementioned roads." WHICH LOCALS ARE YOU REFERRING TO? DO YOU WORK FOR THE STATE DOT BY CHANCE? I MEAN....YOU SURE HAVE ALOT OF KNOWLEDGE FOR ONE PERSON TO HANDLE SUCH A GREAT TASK OF SURVEYING THE ENTIRE STRUCK REGION....WHAT GIVE BUDDY? YOU BY CHANCE USING A CRYSTAL BALL? OH...BY THE WAY.....HERE IS SOME NEWS FROM CUOMO DATED 11/03/12 http://www.governor.ny.gov/press/11032012gasshortageupdate |
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Posted by rkba on Mon Nov 5 14:29:27 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 11:40:09 2012. Not to mention that Inwood Terminal was down for a number of days. A lot of tankers come out of there. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Nov 5 14:36:08 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by rkba on Mon Nov 5 14:29:27 2012. http://www.governor.ny.gov/press/11032012gasshortageupdate |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 5 14:36:24 2012, in response to Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Nov 4 21:04:23 2012. Is that all you can think to post once Subchat came back up?Troll. |
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Posted by rkba on Mon Nov 5 14:36:40 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Nov 5 14:36:08 2012. Thanks for the echo. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Nov 5 14:36:50 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 13:25:42 2012. WHY ARE YOU LAUGHING AT YOURSELF? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 5 14:41:20 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Nov 5 14:25:35 2012. Hes apparently talking about where He lives.. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Nov 5 14:41:21 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Nov 5 14:36:24 2012. "Is that all you can think to post once Subchat came back up?"YOUR MORE OF A TROLL THAN ANYONE I KNOW ON SUBCHAT. EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO ASK A LEGIT QUESTION......BUT YOU SIR ARE PERTURB BY SUCH ACTIONS. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Nov 5 14:41:39 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by rkba on Mon Nov 5 14:36:40 2012. NP...ANY TIME |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Nov 5 14:42:20 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 5 14:41:20 2012. YUPS...THE ISLAND OF NOTHINGS....LOL |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Nov 5 14:45:30 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Nov 5 14:42:20 2012. Easy Now i got friends on that Island! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Nov 5 14:49:32 2012, in response to Re: Is Sandy Obama's Katrina?, posted by streetcarman1 on Mon Nov 5 14:17:25 2012. ?????There is power, and they are unloading there. |
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